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Mexican drug cartels take over U.S. cities
WorldNetDaily ^ | June 18, 2006 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 06/18/2006 9:46:31 PM PDT by seastay

Mexican drug cartels operating in cities in the U.S. are buying up legitimate businesses to launder money and using some of the proceeds to win local mayoral and city council seats for politicians who can shape the policies and personnel decisions of their police forces, according to Rep. Tom Tancredo

"The Tijuana-based Felix drug cartel and the Juarez-based Fuentes cartel began buying legitimate business in small towns in Los Angeles County in the early 1990s,"

"They purchased restaurants, used-car lots, auto-body shops and other small businesses. One of their purposes was to use these businesses for money-laundering operations. Once established in their community, these cartel-financed business owners ran for city council and other local offices. Over time, they were able to buy votes and influence in an effort to take over the management of the town. They wanted to create a comfort zone from which they could operate without interference from local law enforcement."

...an example, L.A. County city of Bell Gardens – corrupt elected officials under the influence of drug lords actually tried to shut down the police department.

City officials who would not cooperate with the Mexican-born city manager were forced out of office," he writes. "Eventually, the L.A. County attorney's office moved in, and the city manager was prosecuted on charges of corruption. Unfortunately, Bell Gardens was only the tip of the iceberg. Other Los Angeles suburbs – including Huntington Park, Lynwood and Southgate – became targets for the cartels."

Tancredo reports he has had confidential briefings with top officials in big-city law enforcement who say there are entire cities under the virtual control of Mexican criminal street gangs and their associated businesses, in some cases, making it dangerous for county, state and national law enforcement officers to venture in and rendering any interdepartmental cooperation impossible.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; bellgardens; bookpimping; cartels; drugtrafficking; eme; huntingtonpark; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; losangeles; lynwood; mexicanmafia; mexico; mrleroybait; narcodemocracy; scamnesty; southgate; spp; urban; wodlist
Maywood a city nearby Bell Gardens, controlled by shady characters actually closed the traffic division of the police department recently so that illegal immigrants could not be cited for violations and the city is pushing to rename one of the city's elementary schools after former Mexican President Benito Juarez;

Maywood disbanding part of their police division confirms Tancredo's accusations that a few of the small city's in East LA county and elsewhere across the US are being taken over by corrupt Mexican National representatives. The Maywood story is documented here (experts from the LA Times) http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/001636.html

1 posted on 06/18/2006 9:46:33 PM PDT by seastay
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To: seastay

The vast amount of money and those who control it are the biggest dangers of the "drug war". They can buy countries, cities and states. No-knock raids are bad but not the worst problem with the war on drugs. Keeping the price up is the worst problem.


2 posted on 06/18/2006 9:58:04 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: seastay

That is the American way, the politicians set the stage for problems, they benefit from bribes and kickbacks from both sides on the issue, then they do what they feel is most beneficial, to set up the next go round of bribes.


3 posted on 06/18/2006 10:00:09 PM PDT by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: seastay

Time to hunt down some Mexican drug cartels. :-)


4 posted on 06/18/2006 10:01:04 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: seastay

The Felix Drug cartel and their ilk have been busy with kidnappings in the south bay area of San Diego.
All of this is old news. We have been dealing with this stuff for yrs here in San Diego.


5 posted on 06/18/2006 10:17:45 PM PDT by SoCalPol (.We Need a Border Fence Now.)
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To: A CA Guy
Time to hunt down some Mexican drug cartels. :-)

I'm sorry that made me lol. It's goin the other way in Mehico. Frankly the way it's happening is a little disturbing and simmilar to a previous puche.

6 posted on 06/18/2006 10:25:33 PM PDT by Dosa26
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To: seastay

well after decades of a wide open border, hundreds of thousands of illegal alien gangsters in every city in America and decades of a faux "war on drugs;"
I don't know why anyone is surprised.

The borders should be sealed and every illegal swinging dick in America should be deported including the incarcerateed illegals(because we'll need the space for American felons). PERIOD!

and then we'll have to start "taking out American trash!"


7 posted on 06/18/2006 10:44:19 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: devolve; bitt; PhilDragoo

ping


8 posted on 06/18/2006 10:53:51 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: seastay

He calls a lip-sticked pig for what it is - and the neocon pretenders hate him for it.

Kick their traitorous teeth down their throats, Tom, and may the truth always be your shield.


9 posted on 06/18/2006 11:03:36 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (drives the one and only AquaJetTruck)
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To: seastay

how do you think the kennedy's got where they got...? The drug cartels are just setting up for an open border drug haven.


10 posted on 06/18/2006 11:16:08 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals immigration)
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To: JustPiper

Have you seen this? Seriously nasty.

I'm not on FR much lately, no time. :-(


11 posted on 06/18/2006 11:23:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: seastay

Maybe this sounds mean and unfair to some decent people, but I want 20 million people removed from my country. Besides illegal aliens, of course, they would include the hierarchy of the Democratic Party.


12 posted on 06/19/2006 12:07:00 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: seastay

Mexican Drug Cartels...........Corrupting cities Americans won't corrupt.
This is extremely serious, scary and dangerous stuff going on and yet the Border remains open and this administration still refuses to enforce the law. God help us.


13 posted on 06/19/2006 12:16:09 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Dane

Any thoughts on the subject?

(and I am being series)


14 posted on 06/19/2006 12:18:17 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: seastay

ping


15 posted on 06/19/2006 12:39:27 AM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: seastay

To much emphasis on this so called "War on Drugs". I don't even believe that the drugs are as bad as some would think. Does anyone really personally know people who have had drug problems. There has not been any in my family or even close friends who have gone through this. I mean aren't the ones shooting each other in the drug business? I believe it is one of those liberal problems that they keep talking about. It is a fictional problem. Let's not fund it and send the money to Iraq.


16 posted on 06/19/2006 1:30:01 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: seastay

The law of supply and demand works like this. Where there is demand, there will be supply.

The way to dry up drug supplies is to remove demand. Users should be heavily fined and imprisoned for the use of any drugs such as marajuana, crack, heroin etc..

Consider: a drug user must first traffic in drug distribution by buying illegal drugs. A drug user must deal with criminals, who are the suppliers.

A first time user should be find $10,000 and receive 30 days in jail. A second time offender should be fined $50,000 and jailed for 6 months. A third time user should have all assets seized and sent to prison for 5 years.

These penalties sheem harsh, but they would quickly stop or seriously reduce drug use in America.


17 posted on 06/19/2006 5:08:54 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal (8)
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To: seastay
Statement: "Mexican drug cartels take over U.S. cities"

Response: Yep! Mexico Del Norte.

18 posted on 06/19/2006 5:10:38 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: napscoordinator
A couple of years ago, a young local girl died of a heroin overdose in her apartment in Madison, where she was attending the university. Her roommate was convicted, IIRC, of giving her the actual shot. Another young man, whom I knew from the time he was an infant, got 6 months (out at the end of the summer) and 5 years very regulated probation (fails one drug test, isn't working or in school making passing grades and he goes to prison for 5 years)for being part of the trio that made the buy from another 20-something who was the connection.

I live in rural Wisconsin. Over the past several years, we have had very visible gangsta types from the Cities living here. All the HS kids say these guys are the drug sources. I keep trying to discover why the city and county LEO haven't busted them and the answers are vague. One LEO said they knew who was doing what, but they had to be able to catch them at it.

Besides having to register to buy pseudofed, all the local vets have been visited by the local drug force people and warned about inquiries for some equine medicine that can be used the same way, for meth production. The vets we know don't keep this drug around, but special order it as needed, so inquiries and attempts to purchase seem something out of the ordinary.

I know many good families whose kids had their episodes with various sorts of drugs. Most got caught at home and were appropriately disciplined by the parents, but there are reports all the time of those being arrested or sent to seriously expensive rehab.

It is a problem for our kids and it is also the fuel that funds a lot of major crime and major terror. Maybe the shootings in inner cities are all gangbangers, but innocents get caught in the crossfire.

A lot of people dismiss the WOD with "It is only pot". Several years ago, we received first hand information from a local person involved with a large nationwide industry (I am definitely not going into any more detail here) who was bragging about his personal visit with an internationally known family in Central America which has run port operations in a very infamous city down there for generations. Unknown to the braggart, we had known people 35 years ago who were also deeply involved with an older generation of this very family. They control coffee, cocaine and anything else that enters and exits this particular port, most likely also including military arms. Very dangerous people whose only side, politically, is the one that profits them the most and absolutely no regard for human life. Several of the people we knew back then did serious time for major felonies. One lived underground for over 30 years, on the run with three major felonies hanging over him. Not sure how he finally got back into mainstream society, but we heard recently that he is living openly and collecting SS.

We dropped these folks like hot rocks once we found out just what was going down. Suffice to say, you would not have thought those involved were the type. It isn't like TV. It is the family down the street, The blue-collar lunch box guy who lives just too well, the kids sitting next to yours in class, the entrepreneur who seems so successful in his business, the middle-aged professional whose trips to Mexico end up in Cartegena and Cuba.

I came of age in the sixties and remember a good deal of it, but not all. It has evolved. It is international. It supplies money to people who hate America. It corrupts everyone involved with it. I have decided it is a major threat to democracy and our way of life. Remember that George Soros is the money behind the legalization efforts around the world.

Believe it or not, but belief is irrelevant to reality.
19 posted on 06/19/2006 6:03:40 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: seastay

If the Mexican illegals have successfully populated the area, why wouldn't they expect to govern it? Demographics is Destiny.


20 posted on 06/19/2006 6:17:05 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: seastay

The illegals are not the only people who buy stores and use them for money laundering. I live in a small town. Most of the downtown is owned by one family. Several local businesses seem to have very few customers. I have wondered how they can keep the doors open.


21 posted on 06/19/2006 6:32:12 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: investigateworld; seastay; Admin Moderator
Any thoughts on the subject?

Yeah it's book pimping by farah and tancredo.

For some reason the below passage from farah's article was left out.

In his new book, "In Mortal Danger: The Battle for America's Border and Security," Tancredo exposes what he has learned from meetings with law enforcement authorities regarding a concerted effort by the Mexican mafia and drug cartels to extend its corruptive influence in urban areas dominated by illegal alien populations.

I'll take good conservative James Sensenbrenner's advice.

Again, it's the new, detailed Cannon - a good thing, says House Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis. "What I can say is, in Congress there are workhorses and showhorses," Sensenbrenner says. "Chris Cannon is the workhorse. Workhorses get things done in Congress.

Link

JMO, Congressman Sensenbrenner knows who the workhorses are and who the showhorses are(IMO, tancredo).

22 posted on 06/19/2006 6:50:07 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: gubamyster

ping


23 posted on 06/19/2006 6:54:17 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: bimbo
If the Mexican illegals have successfully populated the area, why wouldn't they expect to govern it?

Buty They are not governing that is the problem, we would have no problem if the gangs disappeared, the graffiti gone, the arsons and gang shootings gone, and their kids in school learning how to read and write and do arithmetic, but instead we have anarchy, and people think that this is just a race topic and or personal liberty drug issue, but it is far grater, it is a threat to the stability of our own government as it gets out of hand,
24 posted on 06/19/2006 7:54:56 AM PDT by seastay
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


25 posted on 06/19/2006 9:16:21 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: seastay

Maybe dealing drugs is now another one of those jobs that Americans won't do?


26 posted on 06/19/2006 9:21:35 AM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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To: seastay
Terrible greed is fueling the destruction of this country.For now regular people are suffering. Drug pushers target poor people and children. Public schools are starting to look more like pharmacies for illegal drugs. This is one of the big reasons homeschooling is growing in the face of bitter opposition from teacher groups. Those who enjoy watching the drug poisoning of middle and lower class kids are not prepared for the day they will reap the consequences of their actions.
27 posted on 06/19/2006 11:09:28 AM PDT by after dark (I love hateful people. They help me unload karmic debt.)
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To: gubamyster

Bump!


28 posted on 06/19/2006 3:20:48 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: seastay
Comes as no surprise----their signage and shouts at the
recent street protests indicated they are ready to
takover the US with the vote, or with violence, if necessary.

Did anybody doubt the rampaging thugs waving Mexican flags in our
faces were organized drug cartels ready for war against Americans?

29 posted on 06/19/2006 3:51:54 PM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Doc Hunter; sheana; panthermom

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30 posted on 06/19/2006 4:09:48 PM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Liz

I live in Georgia, everyone has heard of Atlanta, but it's the small towns that are being destroyed; Gainesville and Dalton to name 2. Towns that most people have never heard of, now they are over run with gangs and drugs. So much for sleepy southern towns.


31 posted on 06/19/2006 4:18:02 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: R.W.Ratikal

These penalties sheem harsh, but they would quickly stop or seriously reduce drug use in America.

Singapore has the death penalty for illicit drugs and it hasn't reduced drug use.

When Lt Jack Cole of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition ( LEAP) gives presentations at colleges he asks the audience, "How many of you don't do drugs because they're against the law?", seldom does even one person raise their hand.

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Law Enforcement Against Prohibition -- LEAP. Their member ship is strictly persons that are or have careers in the justice system and fought the war on drugs. Judges, prosecutors, LEOS, DEA, etc.

32 posted on 06/19/2006 4:25:46 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: panthermom

An outrage----somebody was asleep at the switch to let this happen. Didn't happen overnight---took organization. Someody knew and did nothing.


33 posted on 06/19/2006 4:37:06 PM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Dane
"I'll take good conservative James Sensenbrenner's advice."

Sensenbrenner says citizenship for illegals will kill any compromise and the Senate should back off. Sooner or later youll draw your long knives for him too.
34 posted on 06/19/2006 6:38:40 PM PDT by mthom
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To: seastay
To think hundred years ago foreign born citizens could be deported and stripped of citizenship if they became criminals. What a crinkle such a law would put into the plans of the Mexican drug cartels. I wonder if it is still on the books.
35 posted on 06/19/2006 6:55:04 PM PDT by after dark (I love hateful people. They help me unload karmic debt.)
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To: seastay

Mexican drug cartels operating in cities in the U.S. are buying up legitimate businesses to launder money and using some of the proceeds to win local mayoral and city council seats for politicians who can shape the policies and personnel decisions of their police forces, according to Rep. Tom Tancredo

A closer look might focus on more than just local politics. They're much further along than that.


36 posted on 06/19/2006 7:06:57 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: R.W.Ratikal
The main reason why that wouldn't work is that the level of deterrent effect of a law is directly proportional to the perceived risk of getting caught. Something like 67% of all murders result in an arrest. What percentage of "pot smokings" do you think result in an arrest? It has to be one in several thousand. The risk of getting caught for crimes where there are actual victims each time the law is broken is much higher than the risk of getting caught using drugs. Drug users tend to think that as long as they are just a little careful they'll never get caught, and for the most part that's a pretty reasonable assessment of the situation. Most won't ever get caught, and most are young and feeling invincible anyway when they start messing with drugs, making it even less likely they'll worry too much about the remote possibility that they'll get caught.

Another problem is that you are advocating ridiculously high fines that will never be paid by the small percentage of users who do get caught. I work in the criminal justice system. The higher the fines the less likely they'll ever be paid. My county and city actually spend a lot of money trying to collect fines, as does the state, when you factor in all the people sent to prison for not paying their fines, not to mention state services to their children when they are away. Most people don't have the funds to pay even a few hundred dollars up front, and then they are always missing payments and the prosecutors have to get warrants and get these people picked up on contempt charges or petitions to revoke probation or suspended sentences. They have to find these people and rearrest them, often over and over again. More often than you would think it takes years and years and lots of effort to just to collect a few hundred bucks from someone.

Our fines aren't that high around here but a substantial portion of are criminal dockets are taken up by what are basically fine collection hearings, and we end up putting a lot of people in jail and prison for not paying. Fines as high as you are advocating are exceedingly rare, but when they are handed out they are rarely ever paid in full, even after years and years of efforts to get them paid. In most cases though the only people who ever get super high fines like that are folks with lots of money who basically buy their way out of trouble by agreeing to pay a huge fine up front in exchange for no prison time and a conviction they'll be able to get off their records, or they'll just pay a large sum as an "asset forfeiture" and either plead to severely reduced charges or in some cases get their charges dropped altogether. But people like that only account for a tiny fraction of the people arrested.

For various reasons, most people arrested don't have much money. Around here at least about eighty percent of those arrested qualify for public defenders, and if you just looked at drug offenders the percentage would be higher, and I know the numbers are similar most everywhere else. These people, especially those really into drugs, would never be able to pay the kind of fines you propose. We'd spend more money trying to cloect them than we'd ever collect.
37 posted on 06/20/2006 3:36:03 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz

cloect = collect


38 posted on 06/20/2006 3:36:44 PM PDT by TKDietz
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bttt


39 posted on 09/16/2006 8:15:35 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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