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To: kellynla

More and more I'm agreeing with those who say, "And then what?" What are things going to be like in 10-20 years. Every bit of this anti-immigration argument is right here, right now, and ignores the future.

1) The Mexican birthrate has dropped to 2.3 kids per family. In short order, this will turn the illegal flow from a flood to a trickle, without anybody doing anything.

2) http://www.nascocorridor.com/ This is a picture of what is being planned--an ultra trade route that will re-create America's heartland--red States--as the artery for massive trade not just with Canada, but with all of central and South America. Trillion of dollars flowing into the US economy.

3) The vast majority of Mexicans that enter the US have assimilated faster than ANY other national immigrant group or race. They are almost 10% of the US military. And unlike the images seen from LA, in Phoenix, they are completely integrated and become middle-class in short order. There is an entire county in Arkansas that is majority hispanic--almost all employees of Tyson Foods.

The variation here between productive and valuable and worthless and criminal is enormous. And while I am all for building the wall ASAP and imprisoning and deporting criminals, I cannot abide throwing out millions of hard-working, middle class Americans, many of whose children no longer even speak Spanish.


25 posted on 06/19/2006 10:45:30 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Popocatapetl
Hope you're wearing flame-retardant skivvies.

Lots of people, including me, disagree with you.

WELCOME TO FR!

39 posted on 06/19/2006 10:57:03 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Popocatapetl

" The vast majority of Mexicans that enter the US have assimilated faster than ANY other national immigrant group or race. They are almost 10% of the US military. And unlike the images seen from LA, in Phoenix, they are completely integrated and become middle-class in short order. There is an entire county in Arkansas that is majority hispanic--almost all employees of Tyson Foods.

The variation here between productive and valuable and worthless and criminal is enormous. And while I am all for building the wall ASAP and imprisoning and deporting criminals, I cannot abide throwing out millions of hard-working, middle class Americans, many of whose children no longer even speak Spanish."

I don't know where you get your information but you have been ill informed.

One third of ALL THE KIDS IN THE LOS ANGELES UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT CANNOT SPEAK ENGLISH!

One third of all the incarcerated are ILLEGALS

It is costing the border states alone SIXTEEN BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR to allow illegals to stay here.

And from the L.A. TIMES, not exactly a anti-illegal rag.

1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million
people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3's of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal
alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County).

(All 10 from the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare.
http://www.cis.org

Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.

The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University].

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE

29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.


44 posted on 06/19/2006 11:07:51 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Popocatapetl
3) The vast majority of Mexicans that enter the US have assimilated faster than ANY other national immigrant group or race. They are almost 10% of the US military. And unlike the images seen from LA, in Phoenix, they are completely integrated and become middle-class in short order. There is an entire county in Arkansas that is majority hispanic--almost all employees of Tyson Foods.

Your evidence that they assimilate faster than other groups ?

I think you're confusing legal with illegal when you talk about the 10% in the military. What percentage of those are illegals vs legals with valid green cards?

The thousands seen marching ARE the very people you're promoting as assimilating. Yeah right, they're assimilating right into our schools, emergency rooms, welfare system and the like. They love America so much that they are carrying Mexican flags, speaking Spanish, and calling for open borders so more just like them can come too. You like your tax dollars and SS going to illegals ?

What part of the word illegal do you not understand ? They are all lawbreakers, not just those who end up in jails. Your screen name gives you away. Are you an illegal from Mexico too ?

50 posted on 06/19/2006 11:19:29 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Popocatapetl
Every bit of this anti-immigration argument

Just wanted to let you know that I stopped reading your post right there, since clearly you don't know what this thread is about. Here's a hint. Illegal immigration.

susie

52 posted on 06/19/2006 11:21:02 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Popocatapetl
The vast majority of Mexicans that enter the US have assimilated faster than ANY other national immigrant group or race. They are almost 10% of the US military. And unlike the images seen from LA, in Phoenix, they are completely integrated and become middle-class in short order.

If they all put away the Mexican flags, pictures of Che Guevara, and signs exhorting us gringos to go back to Europe, then maybe I'll have a little sympathy.

If they endeavor to learn English and stop demanding us to communicate with them in a foreign language, then maybe I'll have a little sympathy.

Until then, I and many other Americans want them OUT. Period.

65 posted on 06/19/2006 11:50:33 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Popocatapetl

Why would "Americans" get thrown out? You do know that ILLEGAL INVADERS are not "Americans", right?


110 posted on 06/19/2006 1:25:11 PM PDT by Politicalmom (If fences don't work, why is there a fence around the White House?)
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