Posted on 06/19/2006 7:12:14 PM PDT by Phil Harmonic
There are those who are already so entrenched in their hatred of Kerry, that no official Navy records, no verified eye-witness testimony, no facts will every cause them to re-evaluate their point of view. However, I am assured that there are many who, regardless of their political background, are interested the facts and see knowledge as an evolutionary process, and who take the time to research their opinions and speak from a foundation of fact. It clearly is not necessary to like John Kerry, or agree with his record as a Senator, but it seems to me that a vicious attack on any man's integrity and honor deserves to be based on something other than lies and distortions. Well, here are some facts based on the official Navy record, Navy messages, the Navy archives, and the statements of witnesses who were really there.
(Excerpt) Read more at military.com ...
fyi ping...
What? Even after he went over to the other side?
Drop a retreat amendment in the Senate, get your liberal buddies to write articles during the same time period, try not to get photographed with Teresa, but STILL FAILS TO CONVINCE anyone that he is not a primped, pussified poser.
He still hasn't released his 180.....unredacted please
Tell us, Wade, how did he vote in Kansas City in 1971 regarding assassinating U.S. senators who supported the war?
The key operative word is "some". Mr. Sanders - why doesn't Senator Kerry release all of his military records like he said he would? He is not only a traitor and a coward but a liar as well.
Was this guy one of J. Fraud's "band of brothers"?
Were those records written by f'n Kerry himself?
Another idiot coming to the defenseless Kerry. I guess Kerry - I hear he onced served in Nam - is still trying to run for President. I can't think of a more sorry SOB than Kerry for trying to authenticate his lies except for those who formerally served whoring for him.
Is this guy getting money from the TIDES foundation?
PD, it started a few weeks ago with an article indicating Kerry was still pushing the issue. Kerry brought it up first. BRING IT ON!
Well I heard he SIGNED his form 180. He just hasn't sent it in.
Wonder what Kerry offered him for this.
I heard that too, right after the election...I'm still waiting to see it...lol
Well... yeah!
Of course, it's the "honorably served" part that we have an issue with in regards to Kerry.
John Kerry didn't even live up to the Benedict Arnold standard of "honorably served" prior to giving aid and comfort to the enemy. At least Arnold was a legitimate hero before becoming a turncoat. Kerry cannot, in all honesty, make that claim.
I have been on their daily email list for over two years now, and I sweared that at least fifty-percent of the emails are anti-war.
As a Swift Boat combat veteran, I find any attack on any veteran who has honorably served distasteful . . ."
What? Even after he went over to the other side?
A certain Benedict Arnold served honorably at first also.
what was the discrepency of the story in the NY Slimes about Kerry's hat??
Also- how come this guy does not mention kerri saying "I'm listening to President Nixon tell me I was not in Cambodia" when at the time, Nixon was not President...
Everyone does typos from time to time, but when you are supposed to be making a big political overture, at least read what you are going to be posting.
(It is an established historical fact that the American military as well as civilian intelligence were operating covertly in Cambodia years prior to the secret bombing campaign and the public incursion. SOG -- the Studies & Operations Group -- was a joint command that undertook secret missions inside Cambodia beginning not later than 1967, according to the book “Sideshow,” a leading historical work on the war in Cambodia.)
Command of all cross-border operations was under the US Army, Commander of MACV-SOG during that time. It was also well established that all cross border insertions into Cambodia and Laos were by helocopter, not boats, as boats had been discarded as an insertion vehicle in the mid 1960s.
If the Admiral had known about such operations, he is now no longer under any known secrecy prohibitions and should tell what he knows.
If Kerry had skippered a boat into Cambodia, he would have been under operational control of Command and Control South (CCS), a unit of MACVSOG. His boat, and all weapons would have had all identification removed. He would have required a top secret clearance. He would have known exactly what his mission was. Where did he go? What troops did he insert? What was their mission? When did he extract the troops? How did he receive his orders? Who did he report to during the mission?
I was there during that time. I doubt it!
Heck, even George McGovern was a war hero.
Ezekiel 3:20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
Ezekiel 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
Fergit it, Turdbucket, we ain't gonna make him C.I.C.,,,case closed.
I assume you're talking about the Fake veteran's group that Kerry helped start (Fake because apparently several of the folks testifying in front of Congress claiming to be vets weren't)
If I've got my facts straight - Kerry claimed that he quit the group when the discussions went the way your mentioning, i.e. talking about assassinating US senatores.
I Googled Wade Sanders, only to be nauseated by all the vicious anti-military cr*p he is peddling: every hair-brained ultra-left theme can be found.
I'm not interested in the actions of Lt. Kerry, UNSR. They are irrelevant. I'm interested in the actions of Senator Kerry (D-MA). And those actions are so thoroughly dishonest, dishonourable,and disgusting that I cannot respect him even in the slightest.
Looks like some Freepers have already started dissing this article on Military.com. Right after the turkeys opinion tripe, the site has a link to discussion of the article. Most comments read like Freeper input! :)
One of Rush's callers pointed out that Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine... just like Murta was.
Thanks for the tip.
He has been placed at the meeting. My info is that it was at that meeting where he resigned his leadership position. I presume that he voted no, but he the duty to report the conspiracy to the FBI.
I cannot believe this idiot would run again
Would he also say that about Tim McVeigh? Didn't he receive a medal?
It must also be noted that Kerry initially LIED about the date of his supposed resignation from the VVAW. Until he was forced to fess up to his attendance at the Kansas City "Assassination" meeting, Kerry (and his campaign) were peddling the outright LIE that Kerry recalled resigning from VVAW in a St. Louis VVAW meeting in July, 1971.
His campaign was FORCED to acknowledge Kerry's fraudulent "memory" when FBI surveillance files (and, subsequently, eyewitnesses from within the VVAW itself) placed him at the meeting of the VVAW conspirators.
Ironically (if my memory serves me correctly), the FBI "Gotcha" was served up by Gerald? Nicosia, a Kerry supporter who had been doing pro-Kerry research when he stumbled into the FBI revelation. As I also recall, Nicosia was stunned by the information he had discovered.
Apparently not so Mr. Sanders or the MSM who give wide latitude to associating with assassination conspirators and documented, outright LIARS like Kerry.
You are correct and I believe in that.
But, unfortunately, you are talking about the one and only John "I'm reporting for doody!" Kerry.
The words integrity and honor simply cannot be said when referring to Jf'nK.
To do so would dishonor all of our real military heros.
Well, here are some facts based on..
recorded media video footage.
John Kerry hangin' with the Hanoi beotch herself.
John Kerry hangin' with the NV commies in Paris, lying to the camera.
I think that is called aiding the enemy, because he was still on "doody".
You are confused pal. There are many men and women in this country that have proven, perhaps re-defined, the words "integrity" and "honor".
And John Kerry is not among those names.
He would be on the other end of the scale - the scum, turds end. Know what I mean?
".......attack on any man's integrity and honor deserves to be based on something other than lies and distortions. "
Absolutely, and had it not been for Traitor kerry's attacks on the integrity and honor of fighting brothers, he might not be feeling like the loser he is today.
Instead, he could be resting on his porch while simply liking his, oh so famous, paper-cuts.
I believe he actually signed it, but allowed a copy to be sent ONLY to the Washington Post which, of course, printed only what he wanted them to. No one has ever seen the FULL report. If he wasn't hiding something, he'd release it all.
May 4, 2004. The Kerry campaign held a press conference directly after the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" event. (Above are, r-l, Wade Sanders, Del Sandusky and Drew Whitlow). Senior Advisor Michael Meehan said, "The Nixon White House attempted to do this to Kerry, and the Bush folks are following the same plan." "We're not going to let them make false claims about Kerry and go unanswered," Meehan said. He said his first instinct was to hold a press conference with an empty room where veterans could testify to their time spent in the military with George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/interestg/kerr050404p.jpg
Wade Sanders served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Navy under President Bill Clinton
He currently works as an attorney in San Diego.
Wade Sanders, who served with Kerry in the delta, on different boats
“John Kerry and I have known each other since 1966,” Sanders said.
Sanders added, “If Bush I had beaten Clinton in 1992 it wouldn’t have been the end of democracy,” leaving unspoken his own — and his audience’s — fear that if Bush II beats Kerry this year it will be the end of democracy in the U.S.
Asked about a New Yorker report that a London-based Islamic Web site that claims a link to al-Qaeda has openly endorsed Bush, Sanders said Kerry probably wouldn’t use that in the campaign because the link is too tenuous but added, “John Kerry knows that al-Qaeda wants Bush to win. The way Bush is conducting the war is stimulating the growth of terrorism.”
http://tinyurl.com/gugzh
One of Kerry's fellow patrol boat skippers, Wade Sanders, defended Kerry and compared the statements of Kerry's commanders to the investigations of suspected communists by Senator Joseph McCarthy in the 1950s, saying the commanders should be asked, ''Have you no decency?"
http://tinyurl.com/hnv5l
They must have read my post number 563 on the Sunday Talk Show thread then....
Did they mention Charles Whitman, too?
He is presently engaged in the legal practice of corporate governance, ethics, and specializing in employee owned companies, as well as providing government relations assistance to major corporations.
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"I'd go into combat with John Kerry tomorrow, anytime, anyplace," said Wade R. Sanders, deputy assistant secretary of the Navy in the Clinton administration, who like Kerry skippered a patrol boat in Vietnam. He directs California Veterans for Kerry. "He's someone who you know your back is safe with."
http://tinyurl.com/hu396
Wade Sanders, a member of Sen. Kerry's "Band of Brothers,"
Wade Sanders, a San Diego lawyer
Hey Wade, its not vicious enough and yes the utter destruction of his vileness's political career is our goal. All traitors should be scrutinized and examined. So far as we are concerned, John Kerry is Unfit For Command of any kind.
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