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Foothill valedictorian criticizes decision to censor her proclamation of faith
Las Vegas Review Journal ^ | 06/17/2006 | Antonio Planas

Posted on 06/19/2006 8:24:42 PM PDT by atomicweeder

She knew her speech as valedictorian of Foothill High School would be cut short, but Brittany McComb was determined to tell her fellow graduates what was on her mind and in her heart.

But before she could get to the word in her speech that meant the most to her -- Christ -- her microphone went dead.

The decision to cut short McComb's commencement speech Thursday at The Orleans drew jeers from the nearly 400 graduates and their families that went on for several minutes.

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KEYWORDS: aclu; antitheist; christianity; christianstudents; commencement; freedomofreligion; freespeech; schools
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I knew they went after teachers for this sort of thing -- but students?
1 posted on 06/19/2006 8:24:47 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: atomicweeder

No free speech unless you agree with the teachers.


2 posted on 06/19/2006 8:25:55 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: atomicweeder

She ought to look into one of the conservative legal foundations, her free speech and freedom of religion were impinged upon here.


3 posted on 06/19/2006 8:28:11 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: atomicweeder
I wish someone had thought to bring a megaphone to hand the speaker upon this distasteful display of reactionary bedwetting by the school. She could have finished the speech that, by all accounts, the majority wanted to hear.

The ACLU has brainwashed many feeble-minded persons of the liberal persuasion into thinking they have a Right to go about their days shielded from anything they don't want to see or hear...no matter how many others do want to hear it.

"Our legal counsel advised us..."...what, to have your spines surgically removed?

Grr.
4 posted on 06/19/2006 8:37:15 PM PDT by LostInBayport (Massachusetts liberals refuse to admit we exist...we are the 37% of MA voters who voted for GWB)
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To: atomicweeder
Surely Vegas can't be more leftist than Eugene, and there is actual prayer led by an invited member of clergy at nearly all graduations here.

The First Amendment, nearly every word of it, was brutally assaulted at this ceremony in Nevada.

I reckon probably most people don't like what happened but they'll keep voting for the godless communists who put those policies in place.
5 posted on 06/19/2006 9:09:56 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: coconutt2000

Where is the ACLU on this?


6 posted on 06/19/2006 9:11:21 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: ANGGAPO

ACLU, as expected, said that the school did the right thing in censoring the student.


7 posted on 06/19/2006 9:14:33 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: atomicweeder

"Before she delivered her commencement speech, McComb met with Foothill administrators, who edited her remarks. It's standard district practice to have graduation speeches vetted before they are read publicly."

And she's surprised because they cut the mike during her speech? She should have made a stink about this BEFORE the commencement ceremony.


8 posted on 06/19/2006 10:00:36 PM PDT by okstate
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To: ANGGAPO
Where is the ACLU on this?

Cheerleading.

9 posted on 06/19/2006 11:17:37 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: atomicweeder
LOL, I have a booming voice, I don't need no stinkin mic.

JESUS JESUS JESUS

10 posted on 06/19/2006 11:22:50 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: coconutt2000

She needs to get in touch with the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, or "FIRE" - http://www.thefire.org/

Recent news:

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FIRE Warns Capitol Hill About Threats to Religious Freedom on Campus

June 19, 2006

Tomorrow, FIRE President Greg Lukianoff will participate in Religious Freedom Day on Capitol Hill by speaking on a panel about religious liberty in the United States. Lukianoff will discuss how universities routinely silence religious opinions on campus and force religious student groups to adopt “nondiscrimination” policies that undermine their freedom of association. Tomorrow’s events are hosted by Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, and also include speakers such as U.N. Ambassador John Bolton, Ambassador John Hanford, and Senators Norm Coleman and Sam Brownback. Tune in to C-SPAN for coverage of the event starting at 9:30 a.m.
Read Full Article ... »
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11 posted on 06/20/2006 12:56:53 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: coconutt2000

If you read the whole article, you'll note it wasn't the teachers who censored Ms. McComb's speech. I suspect most teachers supported her.


12 posted on 06/20/2006 3:49:47 AM PDT by GummyIII
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To: LowOiL
LOL, I have a booming voice, I don't need no stinkin mic.

JESUS JESUS JESUS

And JimRob allows the cross to be shown here!

13 posted on 06/20/2006 5:30:55 AM PDT by Gondring (If "Conservatives" now want to "conserve" our Constitution away, then I must be a Preservative!)
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To: atomicweeder

Girl should have concealed a bullhorn and made them physically drag her off-stage. You can say the worst words in the world on the movie screen, but you can't say the name of Jesus in front of a school class. Anybody hearing trumpets yet?


14 posted on 06/20/2006 7:14:13 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (If you're proud to hold the American Flag, then the Flag is proud to be held by you.)
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To: atomicweeder

Would our reaction be the same if the student was a devout Muslim expressing her devotion to Mohammed and Allah? Just a question.


15 posted on 06/20/2006 7:31:00 AM PDT by mgstarr
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To: mgstarr

"Would our reaction be the same if the student was a devout Muslim expressing her devotion to Mohammed and Allah? Just a question."

In that case, all would be forced to listen in the name of diversity and tolerance. Therefore, this would never happen to a Muslim student.


16 posted on 06/20/2006 7:37:50 AM PDT by vigilo (Everything I needed to know about George Bush and the Republican Party I learned from CFR.)
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To: vigilo

I note that you didn't actually answer the question.


17 posted on 06/20/2006 7:45:48 AM PDT by mgstarr
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To: mgstarr

"I note that you didn't actually answer the question."

I did answer the question. My answer was that it would never happen to a Muslim.


18 posted on 06/20/2006 7:59:29 AM PDT by vigilo (Everything I needed to know about George Bush and the Republican Party I learned from CFR.)
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To: mgstarr
Would our reaction be the same if the student was a devout Muslim expressing her devotion to Mohammed and Allah? Just a question.

Mine would. The First amendment means what it means. But the reaction of the school would probably have been 180 degrees different, and the speech would have gone forward unimpeded.

19 posted on 06/20/2006 12:50:38 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: atomicweeder

What this school did apparently backfired as this story and her comments have spread nationwide! Her silenced message meant for hundreds has now reached multiple thousands! There is no longer time left for good men and women to do nothing. Nationally idle Christians in positions of power are disgracing the honorable sweat and blood shed by our Founding Fathers. Our future generations depend on us ADULTS to step up to the Constitutional plate instead of remaining idle and comfortable in the dugout!



20 posted on 06/21/2006 7:11:16 AM PDT by SpeakUpChristians
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To: DaveLoneRanger

This situation has nothing to do with "what" the girl said; on any other given day, in any public place, she could have claimed that she is the lord god almighty, and experience no trouble. However, she was given the honor to address her senior class by the school administrators; they LET her speak as long as she stayed within bounds. She did not. She was on the SCHOOL's stage using the SCHOOL's mic adressingt the SCHOOL's administrators and her fellow SCHOOL students and their parents. When it is not your stage and not your mic and if you are not the "headliner," you must obey the school's requests. Had this girl really wanted to make a stand, she would have gone to her local newspaper or even fox news, and claimed that the school was editing her speech. Now that would be "freedom of speech."


21 posted on 06/21/2006 10:57:40 AM PDT by munge001 (Not her microphone or stage)
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I am a Foothill High School Senior graduate of 2006 who attended our school's graduation on June 15th.
Brittany had no right to talk about religion in her speech. The school district had the right to cut her off. Our graduation was a publically funded event, and therefore it must separate religion and school, which is stated by the separation of church and state law. Also, it is true that we have freedom of speech, but it is very limited in high school. All our newspapers, yearbooks, and broadcasts are all censored at times. And they are censored for our protection.
Also, While Brittany and her family say they have the entire school backing her up, I am certainly one who does not. I was extremely offended of what she stated, she did not respect or take into consideration mine or other student's beliefs but her own. Our class is made up of many different students from different races, cultures and religions. And she imposed her beliefs on our class, something that was extremely offensive to me. We came to graduate, not to be preached. I respect her beliefs, but it was the wrong time to state them because it was a part of the school, which is a part of the state.
This was not mentioned, but after she spoke, our principal came up and the crowd boo'd her. It was terrible to hear booing at our graduation. Our pricipal is a very nice lady who was only following procedures.


22 posted on 06/21/2006 9:35:45 PM PDT by ess06
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Whoever stated the school is screwed up is WRONG! GO Foothill Falcons!


23 posted on 06/21/2006 9:39:15 PM PDT by ess06
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To: ess06
Listen, Newbie, there is NO SUCH THING as "separation of church and state" in our constitution.

That is just one of the many falsehoods they crammed into your skull in your public school.

As far as imposing beliefs on you, grow up, graduate. Someone stating what is important to THMESELVES does not impose anything on you.

You are playing in a place you don't belong, kid.

Beware the kitties.
24 posted on 06/21/2006 9:51:54 PM PDT by Nik Naym
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To: Nik Naym

THEMSELVES even.


25 posted on 06/21/2006 9:55:39 PM PDT by Nik Naym (I swear I spell checked that post!)
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To: okstate
And she's surprised because they cut the mike during her speech? She should have made a stink about this BEFORE the commencement ceremony.

But nobody would have noticed her if she had done that.

Instead, she gave her word to the administrators, then went on stage and said what she wanted to say.

IOW, she lied to the administrators.

What's more, her parents think lying is just fine as long as you lie about Jesus.

26 posted on 06/21/2006 10:02:03 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: ess06
I am a Foothill High School Senior graduate of 2006 who attended our school's graduation on June 15th. Brittany had no right to talk about religion in her speech. The school district had the right to cut her off.

She was cut off because she lied to the administrators. She agreed to certain conditions, then went back on her word.

A valuable lesson was taught: give your word, keep your word, or suffer the consequences.

27 posted on 06/21/2006 10:07:05 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Nik Naym
As far as imposing beliefs on you, grow up, graduate. Someone stating what is important to THMESELVES does not impose anything on you.

Ah, but giving her word to the administrators means something, don't you think? She said she would confine her remarks, then did not.

This little twerp deserves no kudos whatsoever.

28 posted on 06/21/2006 10:10:09 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: atomicweeder
As I've said, if she had praised Ron Jeremy, that would have been allowed but God Talk is verboten. Even if you are not converting any one. The liberals must really be afraid of Him if they have to make a microphone go dead.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

29 posted on 06/21/2006 10:12:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: sinkspur
I'm all for lying to liberals. They're the most dishonorable, cowardly and deceitful people on the planet. They can take their atheism and stuff it where the sun don't shine!

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

30 posted on 06/21/2006 10:16:18 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
I'm all for lying

There. That's what you're in favor of.

31 posted on 06/21/2006 10:17:31 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: ess06

The fact is that there are to be NO LAWS made respecting establishing a religion, a student talking about God is not making a law. There is also to be no PROHIBITING the free exercise of religion. You lefties are always on the wrong side of an issue, Constitutionally speaking


32 posted on 06/21/2006 10:17:57 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (If there are bribes to be taken and children to be molested, the UN will be there)
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To: sinkspur

I saw nothing to indicate that she lied. They vetted her speech and she "chose" to ignore their rewrite. If you have found any information that shows she had promised to present their rewrite and then didn't, please post it.


33 posted on 06/21/2006 10:29:57 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: sinkspur
I read the article. I will go back and re read it, because I DID see where the administration edited the speech, but I did not see where she said she would go along with it.

If someone tells you not to do do something, and you do it anyway, that does not make you a liar. You only are a liar if you explicitly say you will not do what you were told not to do.

There are times when a little disobedience to authority figures is a good thing.
34 posted on 06/21/2006 10:30:03 PM PDT by Nik Naym (I swear I spell checked that post!)
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To: saradippity
They vetted her speech and she "chose" to ignore their rewrite.

She said, on the TODAY show this morning, that she agreed to present the rewrite, but then felt "compelled" to speak about Jesus.

35 posted on 06/21/2006 10:32:01 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur

As usual, sinkspur, you are absolutely correct.


36 posted on 06/21/2006 10:32:28 PM PDT by okstate
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To: Nik Naym
You only are a liar if you explicitly say you will not do what you were told not to do.

This little lady said, on the TODAY show this morning, that she would give the speech she was given.

She did not do that, thus she is a prevaricator.

37 posted on 06/21/2006 10:34:18 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
Well, Sinkspur, I went back and read the article again.

I didn't see anything in there anywhere about her agreeing not to say anything that was edited out.

Either point out where it said she agreed, or you need to drop the "she lied" line, because you have nothing to base it on.

And why are you so upset? Calling the kid a "twerp" and such?
What is it about her actions that gets you so worked up?
38 posted on 06/21/2006 10:35:23 PM PDT by Nik Naym (I swear I spell checked that post!)
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To: Tired of Taxes; DaveLoneRanger; ess06
The following was written by a recent public high school graduate, and newbie ess06.

Just a few more reasons to homeschool?




"...And they are censored for our protection. Also, While Brittany and her family say they have the entire school backing her up, I am certainly one who does not. I was extremely offended of what she stated, she did not respect or take into consideration mine or other student's beliefs but her own. Our class is made up of many different students from different races, cultures and religions. And she imposed her beliefs on our class, something that was extremely offensive to me. We came to graduate, not to be preached. I respect her beliefs, but it was the wrong time to state them because it was a part of the school, which is a part of the state..."


39 posted on 06/21/2006 10:35:33 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Nik Naym
There are times when a little disobedience to authority figures is a good thing.

Lying in the name of Jesus.

40 posted on 06/21/2006 10:35:53 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
Immanuel Kant said a ban on lying is absolute. In general, I think its wrong to lie but under under circumstances, it might be allowable to mislead people. In particular, people who are moral relativists. I don't regard the ACLU as a bunch of honorable people. They're atheists to the core and they approve of more than censorship of Christianity. They advocate the right to believe in atheism, abortion and Marxism. And you want us to be on the level with them? Yeah, right.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

41 posted on 06/21/2006 10:37:13 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: sinkspur

That's just plain dumb Sinkspur.


42 posted on 06/21/2006 10:37:56 PM PDT by bd476
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To: coconutt2000

Free for me and mine but not for thee and thine ... I figured that out somewhere about 1970.


43 posted on 06/21/2006 10:38:44 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (NOT ON MY WATCH!)
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To: sinkspur
So she didn't tell them everything. How did they know she was going to say she believed in Jesus? Through ESP? And liberals tell us they're all above that kind of superstition.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

44 posted on 06/21/2006 10:38:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Nik Naym
On the TODAY show, June 21, she said that she agreed to give the speech that the administrators had edited.

But, then, she realized, as she was on stage, that she must disobey and speak about Jesus.

She lied to administrators who had given her the privilege to speak in the first place.

What's more, her parents think lying in the name of Jesus is just fine.

45 posted on 06/21/2006 10:40:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: goldstategop
In general, I think its wrong to lie but under under circumstances, it might be allowable to mislead people.

As someone who is constantly posting about moral relativism, I must congratulate you.

You are now a moral relativist yourself.

46 posted on 06/21/2006 10:42:35 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur

I don't know that she lied.


Besides, I don't think her "honesty" is what has you all worked up.



47 posted on 06/21/2006 10:42:46 PM PDT by Nik Naym (I swear I spell checked that post!)
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To: bd476
That's just plain dumb Sinkspur.

What's dumb is telling administrators who have given you a forum to speak that you will give an agreed-upon speech, but, then, you don't give the agreed-upon speech.

It's not just dumb, it's a lie.

48 posted on 06/21/2006 10:44:49 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur

I wouldn't know what went on on the "Today Show".

I don't watch any of those morning lefty love fest shows.

Why would anyone want to watch that crap anyway?



49 posted on 06/21/2006 10:44:51 PM PDT by Nik Naym (I swear I spell checked that post!)
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To: goldstategop; jwalsh07

I think the gal should have sued the socks off the school district in advance. She had a notice in advance of her case, because the powers that be redacted her speech. She didn't say that was unacceptable, and that I am going to sue your nuts off; she apparently just went up on the stage, and decided to read the redacted portions, without realizing that the powers that be had the turn off the mike card to play. She is a bright girl, and over time, will learn to think through the play of the hand several cards ahead. I hope she becomes a lawyer.


50 posted on 06/21/2006 10:44:53 PM PDT by Torie
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