Skip to comments.Church mulls 'phrasing' change for Holy Trinity
Posted on 06/20/2006 4:35:44 AM PDT by pageonetoo
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- At some Presbyterian churches the Holy Trinity -- "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" -- will be out. "Mother, Child and Womb" is in.
Delegates to the national assembly of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) voted yesterday to "receive" a policy paper on sex-inclusive language for the Trinity, a step short of approving it. Church officials are enabled to propose "experimental liturgies" with "alternative phrasings" for the Trinity, but congregations won't be required to use them.
Besides "Mother, Child and Womb" and "Rock, Redeemer, Friend," options include:
"Lover, Beloved, Love"
"Creator, Savior, Sanctifier"
"King of Glory, Prince of Peace, Spirit of Love"
"This does not alter the church's theological position, but provides an educational resource to enhance the spiritual life of our membership," legislative committee chairman Nancy Olthoff, an Iowa laywoman, said during yesterday's debate on the changes.
The assembly narrowly defeated a conservative bid to send the paper back for further study, which would have killed it.
A panel that worked on the issue since 2000 said the classical language for the Trinity still should be used, but Presbyterians should seek "fresh ways to speak of the mystery of the triune God" to "expand the church's vocabulary of praise and wonder."..
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"Mother, Child and Womb"
What is it with those people?
Up is down, left is right, day is night, wrong is right... I think you're right about priestesses and homo-sodomites.
Paper, rock, scissors!
Churches are leaving God in droves (again).
"My dad is a retired Episcopal Priest, and I was raised accordingly. I ended up in the AG"
*eyes, doing 360s in my head*
It's amazing; I'm a Presbyterian, but PCA (Presbyterian Church in America) which is still conservative and faithful to God and His Word.
It just amazes me that there is any wonder as to why there are close to 50,000 members leaving the PCUSA every year!
PCUSA=Presbyterian Church, United States Apostate!
It is difficult enough to understand the Holy Trinity. What educational value does re-naming it have?
Our Christian Churches in every sect needs some stronger leadership. The week-kneed leaders of our faith are patsies that seek diversity and inclusion via relaxing the teachings of the church, the teachings of Christ.
see also AP article of the same
Frog in the boiling water theory. Sociaty has been slowly penetrated and corrupted by them for the past 15-20 years. I've seen it coming when the liberal courts rule in their favor as a 'protected class' against normal society.
I can't understand why it is that SOME people think that they have to change things like this... Unless it's because they don't fit in, and rather than joining a different "sect" or even coming up with their own, they need to "reshape" the beliefs of millions of people to fit their own wishes.
mother=single unwed mother who does not need any man to raise a child
Child= fatherless child who is better off without the father
Womb= not a penis, because men are eeeeeevil.
Well, I left church, but not God.
Amen! It's only Christians who are to blame when this kind of thing is happening to so many Christian denominations. We get the government, schools & churches we deserve.
feminist lesbians who failed to make wica mainstrean have decided to make christianity atheist.
I wish I could laugh, because that's funny.
I think the fact that they are trying to change OUR religious institutions, rather than creating their very own religion - shows that they have evil intent. Their purpose is to DESTROY - not to amend. Satan is laughing right now.
Peanut, Butter, & Jelly?
Crosby, Stills, & Nash?
Larry, Darrell, & Darrell?
Up, Chuck, & Die?
Basically any group (or non-group) of any three (more-or-less) objects, people, or ideas, that you can feel comfortable with, and that bring you inner peace. Because that's what it's all about, after all - inner peace.
OH!!! That's what it is! All this time I have been reading it dyslexically as CPUSA. I thought it was the Commies pretending like they got Religion.