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Awakening a Sleeping Giant
The American Thinker ^ | June 21, 2006 | Frederick J. Chiaventone

Posted on 06/21/2006 5:10:18 AM PDT by Quilla

If in the case of Iraq there has been any lessening of resolve among the American electorate, and to read the newspapers and listen to a great many television pundits one might certainly think there has, the events of the past 48 hours should put these doubts to rest.

American forces have recovered the remains of two soldiers, Privates Thomas Tucker and Kristian Menchaca, ambushed and kidnapped at a check point in the aptly named “Triangle of Death” south of Baghdad. Specialist David Babineau, died in the attack and was not captured.

Iraqi Major General Abdul-Aziz Mohammed Jassim, director of the Iraqi military operations room, stated “with great regret” that there is strong evidence that the soldiers in question had been captured alive, horribly tortured, mutilated, and then murdered. Major General Jassim described the way in which these brave soldiers died as “barbaric.” This probably means that they were beheaded.

A bulletin dor the blissfully ignorant opponents of our commitment to the Iraqi people: this is the true face of the enemy. This is representative of the fate they have in store for all of those – American, British, Iraqi, soldier or civilian, man, woman or child, – whoever does not share their twisted and sadistic view of the world. Nowhere in scripture or practice do the jihadis see a limit to the scope of their ambitions of less than a global caliphate. It is only a matter of time and tactics for them.

If they have not already figured it out, and it is highly unlikely that they have, the murderers in Iraq have made yet another egregious error. Perhaps even a fatal one for their own cause. Americans don’t react to barbarity in the way in which our enemies hope. Americans still remember the Alamo.

Consider the aftermath of the Little Bighorn.

Consider the evidence of Pearl Harbor.

Too many would-be enemies forget the prophetic words of Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto following that attack when he said; “I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.”

Americans don’t react well or predictably to threats, murder, and treachery. This repugnance and stubborn resolve seems to be in our genes. Recently I have been re-reading a series of excellent books by Allan Eckert detailing the founding of America. In one of these books, The Conquerors, Eckert details the attempt in 1763 by Ottawa war chief Pontiac to lead a great uprising of tribes against British and American interests in the Great Lakes region.

Pontiac’s approach, much like that of the mullahs and terrorists in Iraq, was characterized by his fiery oratorical presence among the tribes and his ready resort to extreme treachery, barbarity, and viciousness. At the height of his influence Pontiac led the forces of 18 tribes, thousands of hardened warriors, from throughout the Great Lakes region all the way to the Mississippi. The American and British presence throughout the region was laughably small with the largest garrison of troops, fewer than 200 at the present site of the city of Detroit, Michigan. Pontiac and his legions, whose methods ran to wholesale destruction and bloodshed, disdained taking prisoners except for the purposes of slavery and horrendous torture. Pontiac’s onslaught on the frontier was exceptionally bloody and merciless.

But the reaction of the British governors of the region and, most especially, the Americans who populated this frontier, was far from that which Pontiac had expected. The American reaction especially was of outrage and retaliation. The frontiersmen fought back with an unparalleled fury. Within two years Pontiac’s great confederacy was a shambles. A few years later the once great war chief was murdered by a fellow Indian near present day St. Louis.

In Iraq the terrorist mastermind Al-Zarqawi is dead and his would-be successor Abu Hamza al-Muhajer has stepped into the dead killer’s shoes announcing that the heinous and unspeakable murder of these American soldiers is his personal doing. Perhaps he believes that by so doing he announces his own implacable opposition to American and Iraqi interests and his ability to strike at will.

Perhaps Al-Muhajer has what passes for an excellent grasp of supposed Islamic history. But what Al-Mujaher is severely lacking is an appreciation of American history and the nature of American willpower. Unless I miss my guess, he is about to find out. It will not be a pleasant lesson.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; islam; menchaca; pfcmenchaca; pfctucker; thomastucker; torture; triangleofdeath; wot
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I pray history repeats itself.
1 posted on 06/21/2006 5:10:21 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla

Unfortunately, Kerry, Kennedy, Murtha, Reid, Pelosi and the rest of them will just blame Bush for it and continue to strengthen our enemies...


2 posted on 06/21/2006 5:13:08 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Quilla
“Triangle of Death” south of Baghdad.

If Reagan was in office it would now be called the "Big F--king Lake" south of Baghdad.

3 posted on 06/21/2006 5:14:34 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Quilla
A few years later the once great war chief was murdered by a fellow Indian near present day St. Louis.

In a way, history did repeat itself. Zarqawi was given up by members of his own group. Sure, they had their own reasons for doing so, and were probably rolled up in the aftermath if they didn't already plead for amnesty from the Iraqi government as part of their deal in handing over the information that was used to track down Zarqawi.

So, in a sense, history did repeat itself, albeit more indirectly this time around.

4 posted on 06/21/2006 5:14:48 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Paloma_55
I should have included the following about the author:

Frederick J. Chiaventone is a retired Army officer who taught counter-terrorism at the U.S. Army’s Command & General Staff College, and an award-winning novelist.

5 posted on 06/21/2006 5:15:28 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Paloma_55

"Unfortunately, Kerry, Kennedy, Murtha, Reid, Pelosi and the rest of them will just blame Bush for it and continue to strengthen our enemies..."

How long are we going to tolerate The Enemy Within?


6 posted on 06/21/2006 5:18:23 AM PDT by RoadTest (“Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil” –Thomas Mann)
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To: Quilla
While I would love to see retribution on the scale described by the author, the sentence I take most issue with is the first one:

If in the case of Iraq there has been any lessening of resolve among the American electorate, and to read the newspapers and listen to a great many television pundits one might certainly think there has,

Obviously, the author is convinced the entire American electorate is made up of the Newspapers and TV pundits. They do not reflect the minds of the American electorate.

The true minds of the American electorate are shown once every two years at the polls, not via Pew, Zogby, Quinnipiac, Hardball with CNN, Larry King, Bill O'Reilly or anywhere else. To say what newspapers and pundits write reflects the American electorate is to project his view of the world onto them (us).

7 posted on 06/21/2006 5:18:54 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: Quilla

Wishful thinking. There have been any number of horrible murders and tortures of Americans and their allies in Iraq, and nothing comes of it. If the American people can so blythely forget about the slaughter of 3000 of their fellow countrymen, they'll quickly forget about these two unfortunates.


8 posted on 06/21/2006 5:19:05 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: nonliberal
If Reagan was in office it would now be called the "Big F--king Lake" south of Baghdad.

Marine barracks, Lebanon.

9 posted on 06/21/2006 5:19:22 AM PDT by whd23
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To: Quilla

I pray for a quick and complete retribution to these uncivilized killers. Time has come for the world to end their mindless dabbling with the idea we are dealing with anything but lunatic killers. In this nation they are called serial killers.


10 posted on 06/21/2006 5:20:47 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: whd23

Reagan learned from that. Look at what he did to Libya.


11 posted on 06/21/2006 5:22:57 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: whd23; nonliberal
If Reagan was in office it would now be called the "Big F--king Lake" south of Baghdad.

Marine barracks, Lebanon.

Ouch ...

12 posted on 06/21/2006 5:24:49 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
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To: Quilla

Thanks for the post !


13 posted on 06/21/2006 5:29:54 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: Quilla

For the parents of these two brave soldiers, I hope vengeance is swift and complete. I suspect a new, deeper and more ominous (for the murderers) resolve exists among the fellow soldiers of the three who were killed. May God guide their weapons to a sure and accurate target, and may they return safely knowing that justice was achieved in a successful retaliation.
Oh, that I were a young, strong man.
To be an aging woman and know I cannot be there to help exact revenge burns my heart. As a mother, my heart goes out to the parents and siblings of the three who were killed and, especially, the two who were tortured.


14 posted on 06/21/2006 5:30:13 AM PDT by sneakers (Freedom is the answer to the human condition)
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To: nonliberal; whd23; tx_eggman
Got to go with nonliberal on this one.

Don't draw a line and dare the US Navy to cross it. Big Ron said cross it and they did.
15 posted on 06/21/2006 5:30:42 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Paloma_55

I heard Michael Berg (father of Nick Berg who was beheaded by Zarqawi) use the word "torture" to describe what happened in Abu Garib, Gitmo and Halditha. It infuriated me then and now when Murtha and the rest like Berg use the same words to compare our troops with scum like the animals that killed these two privates. Kerry, Murtha and his ilk will continue to use this incident to bash Bush rather than recognize the totally inhuman face of Al Qaida. THIS is what lies in store for the Iraqis AND the world if Al Qaida is not stopped.


16 posted on 06/21/2006 5:30:55 AM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: Paloma_55; Quilla
Americans don’t react well or predictably to threats, murder, and treachery. This repugnance and stubborn resolve seems to be in our genes.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It is a strong trait in the Citizenry of the United States , and I am afraid I will have to share it in the eloquence of Samuel Adams when addressing his historical contemporaries , who were in the same mold as Kerry, Kennedy, Murtha, Reid and all of their running dogs. Please bear with me, it is worth the read. I address these words to those Democrats and RINOs who have betrayed their nation by attempting to weaken our nation's resolve in Iraq:

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ON LIBERTY

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life; secondly, to liberty; thirdly to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can.

The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.

Samuel Adams

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So much has changed since these words were written, and on the other hand , so little has changed.

God bless and keep our troops as they go about the work of LIBERTY.

America Go Bragh!!!!

17 posted on 06/21/2006 5:31:17 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Quilla
If they have not already figured it out, and it is highly unlikely that they have, the murderers in Iraq have made yet another egregious error. Perhaps even a fatal one for their own cause. Americans don’t react to barbarity in the way in which our enemies hope. Americans still remember the Alamo.

Consider the aftermath of the Little Bighorn.

Consider the evidence of Pearl Harbor.

Too many would-be enemies forget the prophetic words of Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto following that attack when he said; “I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.”

Unfortunately, the MSM is doing everything it can (and has been doing so for years) to sanitize what they present to the American public as "tradgedies" like September 11, 2001, while at the same time, doing all they can to inflame the arab and muslims AGAINST the US and our policies.

When is the last time you saw photos of the people jumping to their deaths from the towers? How many times were photos of the remains of people who fell 50 or more stories shown? How many times have we seen the photos of the 4 contractors bodies, burned and hung on a bridge? How many times do you think that we'll see graphic discussions in the MSM of what was actually done to these two servicemen?

On the other hand, although it now looks like Haditha was a hoax, how many times have we seen not only the MSM, but even members of congress condemning our service people? Or Abu-Grabe? Or Guantanamo? Or the "koran flushing" hoax? No, the MSM WANTS to inflame our enemies, while at the same time, trying to keep from inflaming the anger of the American public, since the last thing they want to do is have popular support for the war increase.

I'm so angry over the whole thing that I don't know what to do.

Mark

18 posted on 06/21/2006 5:31:32 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: t2buckeye

Mark for later.


19 posted on 06/21/2006 5:31:53 AM PDT by Grandma Pam
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To: Quilla
If they have not already figured it out, and it is highly unlikely that they have, the murderers in Iraq have made yet another egregious error. Perhaps even a fatal one for their own cause. Americans don’t react to barbarity in the way in which our enemies hope. Americans still remember the Alamo.

Consider the aftermath of the Little Bighorn.

Consider the evidence of Pearl Harbor.

Too many would-be enemies forget the prophetic words of Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto following that attack when he said; “I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.”

Unfortunately, the MSM is doing everything it can (and has been doing so for years) to sanitize what they present to the American public as "tradgedies" like September 11, 2001, while at the same time, doing all they can to inflame the arab and muslims AGAINST the US and our policies.

When is the last time you saw photos of the people jumping to their deaths from the towers? How many times were photos of the remains of people who fell 50 or more stories shown? How many times have we seen the photos of the 4 contractors bodies, burned and hung on a bridge? How many times do you think that we'll see graphic discussions in the MSM of what was actually done to these two servicemen?

On the other hand, although it now looks like Haditha was a hoax, how many times have we seen not only the MSM, but even members of congress condemning our service people? Or Abu-Grabe? Or Guantanamo? Or the "koran flushing" hoax? No, the MSM WANTS to inflame our enemies, while at the same time, trying to keep from inflaming the anger of the American public, since the last thing they want to do is have popular support for the war increase.

I'm so angry over the whole thing that I don't know what to do.

Mark

20 posted on 06/21/2006 5:32:00 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Quilla
It won't.

I'd settle for a Roman solution: surround the city where this happened. Separate the men and boys over 10 from the women and children. Put the men into a prison camp and systematically interrogate everyone - let the Iraqi polic do it - until we know who actually did the murder. Execute the perps and sew their bodies inside of pig carcasses for burial. Disperse the women and children throughout the rest of the country. Raze the city and salt the earth.

21 posted on 06/21/2006 5:32:22 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Paloma_55
Kerry, Kennedy, Murtha, Reid, Pelosi, Durban, the NYTimes, the MSM et. al. ARE among the enemy! Harsh? Yes, but it is they who have repeatedly demonstrated their persistent effort to WEAKEN the resolve of this nation in the face of battle! It is they who, in part, bear responsibility for the encouragement they have fostered among the enemies of this nation. A pox on them.
22 posted on 06/21/2006 5:35:32 AM PDT by Obadiah (The beatings will continue until morale improves.)
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To: CatoRenasci

Unfortunately, we still don't have the will to win this war. It's going to take a major attack on us before we take the gloves off. The "Sunni Triangle" would be a smoldering heap of ash if I were in charge.


23 posted on 06/21/2006 5:36:09 AM PDT by ChrisFelice1 (Chris Felice Show website: www.freewebs.com/chrisfeliceshow)
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To: Paloma_55

Notice how the MSM is no longer covering this story.

This is propaganda by blackout.


24 posted on 06/21/2006 5:37:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Quilla

bookmark


25 posted on 06/21/2006 5:40:16 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: t2buckeye
'THIS is what lies in store for the Iraqis AND the world if Al Qaida is not stopped.'

This needs to be repeated, and repeated, and repeated,...

26 posted on 06/21/2006 5:42:50 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: ChrisFelice1

CNN has still not issued correction for the lies Murtha said about the fake massacer story.

CNN is not even covering this story lest they upset the public.

People can think about what they don't know.

But they do know John Kerry's new cut and run proposal. CNN is reporting a wall on the border is fruitless and amnesty is good.


27 posted on 06/21/2006 5:42:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

I will have to listen to bor tonight. He said he would show how the DBM would cover this.


28 posted on 06/21/2006 5:44:35 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: MarkL

Absolutely on the money.


29 posted on 06/21/2006 5:44:50 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Quilla
I was an infantryman in 1966 in Vietnam. To me, at the time, the war was nothing personal, I did not hate anyone. Then on Easter Sunday one of our companies was ambushed and took heavy casualties. The enemy murdered our wounded and mutilated their bodies. They felt if the body was mutilated then the person could not get to heaven. After that the war got personal for every soldier in my unit and we showed them no mercy.

The longer this war last and the more these animals do these sorts of things to our troops then you will see our troops respond in kind.
30 posted on 06/21/2006 5:48:16 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Paloma_55

I say that Kerry, Kennedy, Murtha, Reid, and Pelosi are the Benedict Arnolds of our day and deserve to be treated as such.


31 posted on 06/21/2006 5:48:53 AM PDT by Eternally-Optimistic (anything is possible)
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To: Quilla

Note the NYT has NO editorial on this incident compared with ~ 50 consecutive days of Abeu Grab!!!


32 posted on 06/21/2006 5:49:24 AM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: ChrisFelice1
Unfortunately, we still don't have the will to win this war.

That is not true. Last month over 600 troops at Fort Carson re-upped for another tour in Iraq.Thats almost a whole regiment taking the enlistment oath "en mass." For many of them it was their 3rd tour.You can say," WE do not have the resolve", and if you mean the general American public that has been manipulated and melded by the MSM slimes of our nation, you might be partially right. I hope you can use your pulpit to help those Americans who have lost their resolve, and who betray their nation here at home, to either shut up or investigate the truth. Their problem to a man is that they are sore losers politically, and quite willing to weaken our nation, and create more military deaths of our own men and women who serve, in aiding and abetting an enemy that plays to its choir of weak synchopants here at home.They put the pettiness of their own narrow politics ahead of the gift of liberty to others , and the very safety of our nation.

As a radio person yourself,perhaps it might be your task to shut them up by making their mis-cause politically incorrect.

33 posted on 06/21/2006 5:49:35 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Allegra

What do you think about this article?


34 posted on 06/21/2006 5:51:35 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: longtermmemmory

I have a feeling that President Bush is seething over this barbarian act. He will be privy to the details that have been sanitized for media audiences. When he concludes the Vienna Summit, CNN won't have a choice but to cover his response.


35 posted on 06/21/2006 5:53:16 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla

The Giant has been awake for sometime now. Unfortunately, the mental midgets surrounding the Giant will do anything they can to hold him down.


36 posted on 06/21/2006 5:54:19 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Junior

Perhaps, but the US military won't.


37 posted on 06/21/2006 5:56:23 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: longtermmemmory; MarkL

Mark, I agree 100%. I am furious today - all of this is simply being swept under the rug by a media which will do anything to prevent Americans from waking up and facing reality.

And longterm, you just coined a great phrase: "propaganda by blackout." That is exactly what it is.


38 posted on 06/21/2006 5:59:19 AM PDT by livius
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To: All
If this turns out to be true and the new guy in charge was responsible for torturing and beheading two of our guys it proves one thing for sure. He is ten times dumber than Zarq was and he will not last anywhere near as long. They gain nothing militarily by this action and stand to lose everything over it.
39 posted on 06/21/2006 5:59:24 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Quilla
"Americans don’t react well or predictably to threats, murder, and treachery."

That all depends upon what your definition of "Americans" is. There are the Demonicrat "americans" who are in favor of "cut and run" policies, who don't understand the need for or even what patriotism might be or why it is important. These are AINO americans: Americans In Name Only. They are appeasement cowards who are afraid to see the world as it truly is. They are responsible for 9/11 as much as the muslim terrorists.

Then there are the rest of us. We don't pay ransom or cower at threats. We get pissed off. And we certainly don't roll over an pee on ourselves at the thought that some Euro-weenie might not like us. We wear the moniker "cowboy" proudly.

We bring peace and comfort to troubled lands, first through superior firepower and then through the generous labors that re-build and reform.

And we are the Americans who will be damn proud when the murderous scum who did this to our brave soldiers are brought to justice.

As long as Americans are in charge of our country and its military, the jihadist don't have a prayer. It's just a matter of time.

40 posted on 06/21/2006 6:00:15 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Obadiah

For those Democrats who claim they are supporting our troops by calling for an immediate withdrawel, I can say this.

Years ago I was a boxer. When fighting, you get hit and it is tough. There are times when you are getting pounded pretty good and part of you just wants to lay down, but the other part wants to finish the job. Which part of you wins this internal fight determines whether you stand or fall.

There are people in the crowd yelling for you to keep punching and it really matters when they do that. They help that part of you that wants to continue the fight.

There are also people in the crowd yelling for your competitor, they are helping him.

And then there are the people who are calling you a bum and criticizing your fight... THEY are helping your competitor. Those who criticize your coach, or your style, they are helping your competitor. They are telling the part of you that wants to lay down that there is no reason to fight.

Kerry, Murtha et-al; They are telling our soldiers that they might as well fall down cause the fight is over. "Give it up you bums...you don't have a chance!!!" That is what they are doing and no matter how much they claim to support the troops, doing anything other than 100% support for a successful conclusion undermines our troops.


41 posted on 06/21/2006 6:02:26 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Junior

I fear that you are correct.


42 posted on 06/21/2006 6:06:29 AM PDT by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: Paloma_55

Already the forces on the left are saying that the killers and occupiers in Iraq get the fate they deserve from the noble "freedom fighters".


43 posted on 06/21/2006 6:06:29 AM PDT by Sender ("Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-b*tches we're going up against. By God, I do".)
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To: nonliberal
"If Reagan was in office it would now be called the "Big F--king Lake" south of Baghdad."

I love the Gipper and think he was one of our best presidents but I remember the marines in Lebanon and how he bugged out after they killed 200 of them. I would rather use what General Blackjack Pershing did to the Islamists as an example.
44 posted on 06/21/2006 6:07:50 AM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: Candor7

"Give me Liberty, or give me Death."

Words that meant something!


45 posted on 06/21/2006 6:08:01 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: Quilla

There should be an unrelenting fury and our vengeance should be swift and terrible to behold-but it won't. Our Soldiers and Marines are sent into this very difficult situatuion where you can't tell friend from foe (it's not like they are squaring off against Redcoats) and are held accountable like State troopers. I agree with Dubya 90% of the time, but he has really not stepped up to the plate when it comes to situations like Colonel West, Lt. Pantano, etc...Our boys are kept in shackles while detainees are given pillows.


46 posted on 06/21/2006 6:08:59 AM PDT by MattinNJ (The paleocon's paleocon.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Even Fox news, the former voice of conservatives, has moved the story out of the spotlight. Ugly news that would help fire up the American population is quickly relegated to the dust bin of the media shops.


47 posted on 06/21/2006 6:10:22 AM PDT by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: nonliberal

or truman


48 posted on 06/21/2006 6:14:50 AM PDT by sachem longrifle (proud member of the fond Du lac band of the Ojibwe people)
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To: Quilla
I agree, and I suspect history will repeat itself here.

Thankfully, the "Jacksonian Tradition" is alive and well in American today. There are there are still plenty of us left :)

BTW, the article at that link is lengthy, but well worth the read!

49 posted on 06/21/2006 6:18:17 AM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: Eternally-Optimistic; Paloma_55

I go beyond questioning their patriotism, I believe their conduct to be outright treasonous.


50 posted on 06/21/2006 6:18:33 AM PDT by Obadiah (The beatings will continue until morale improves.)
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