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Whither Frodo and Jesus?
Christianity Today ^ | 06/20/06 | Mark Moring

Posted on 06/21/2006 6:18:30 AM PDT by rhema

How could the American Film Institute have missed The Return of the King when picking its list of the 100 Most Inspiring Films of All Time? And not a single movie about Jesus? What's up with THAT?

Last week, the American Film Institute posted its list of the 100 Most Inspiring Films of All Time. It's a good list, especially with It's a Wonderful Life and To Kill a Mockingbird occupying the top two spots. Rocky, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, and Breaking Away are all in the top 10. Very nice.

But like all such lists, it's certainly open to criticism. My first gripe is specific enough: Where in the world is The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King? If that's not one of the 100 Most Inspiring Films of All Time, then I'll be a hobbit's uncle.

If Gandalf doesn't inspire, then who does?

At first I thought the omission was because the film isn't "American." It was primarily made in New Zealand by a Kiwi director (Peter Jackson), and the AFI criteria state that qualifying films must have "significant creative and/or production elements from the United States." But then I checked the list of 300 nominees from which the AFI culled its winners, and the first LOTR film, The Fellowship of the Ring, is a nominee (though it didn't make the top 100).

So, evidently, the LOTR films were eligible after all—but The Return of the King didn't even make the list of nominees. So, the AFI doesn't even count it as one of the three hundred most inspiring films in history!

How could they have missed it?

Were they not inspired when Gandalf comforts a frightened Pippin during the siege of Minas Tirith, telling the young hobbit about a glorious heaven that

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1 posted on 06/21/2006 6:18:33 AM PDT by rhema
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To: BibChr; Caleb1411

Ping


2 posted on 06/21/2006 6:18:56 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: 2Jedismom; 300winmag; Alkhin; Alouette; ambrose; Anitius Severinus Boethius; Anne of DC; artios; ...

Ring Ping!!

FrodoPlease support our Hobbit Hole Pocket knives for the troops project.

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3 posted on 06/21/2006 6:21:39 AM PDT by ecurbh (Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: rhema

There's some real clunker's on that list too: I would even argue with TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD so highly rated. SCHLINDER'S LIST? Sure, it's 'inspiring' if you can make it through three hours of wanton slaughter, which I have been able to do just once. Then one of my personal favorite's COAL MINER'S DAUGHTER way down in the seventies.


4 posted on 06/21/2006 6:25:56 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: rhema

I don't agree with a lot of the films lsited. But Chariots of Fire did make it, even if it is 100. It was a great film. And I agree with the author here--The Lord of the Rings is a GREAT trilogy!


5 posted on 06/21/2006 6:28:24 AM PDT by twigs
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To: rhema
"I can handle things, I'm smart, not like everybody says. Not dumb, I'm smart, and I want respect!"

oh wait..it said FRODO in the headline....nevermind !
6 posted on 06/21/2006 6:39:33 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Rummyfan; twigs; ecurbh; rhema
Of course I agree with the author that LoTR should be there, and high on the list!

Many of the movies present are deeply depressing, perhaps dramatic and sad, but that's not necessarily my definition of ~inspirational~

Omission: The Ten Commandments
Another omission: SIGNS
7 posted on 06/21/2006 6:39:46 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Rummyfan; twigs; ecurbh; rhema

OK - I just went back and looked again, and THELMA AND LOUISE, a pointless movie about two particularly stupid and annoying women, is on the list. Enough said.


8 posted on 06/21/2006 6:42:47 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: rhema

Hm; not sure what "Jesus movie" I'd nominate. Most of them, ah... aren't really good. Maybe The Gospel of John? or The Gospel of Matthew?


9 posted on 06/21/2006 6:45:00 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: HairOfTheDog

And "The Wizard of Oz"?? I guess we know what that's inspired...


10 posted on 06/21/2006 6:45:00 AM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: rhema

I'm guessing, that not everyone thinks the same.


11 posted on 06/21/2006 6:48:50 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: hunter112

I don't have a problem with The Wizard of Oz... I know people who love it. I think the concept of giving people 'courage' or a 'heart' they think they don't have, and making them believe they do, is a good one. But the movie always bored me. ~shrugs~


12 posted on 06/21/2006 6:49:01 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
THELMA AND LOUISE

I despise that movie. Words can't describe what I think of it.

13 posted on 06/21/2006 6:49:22 AM PDT by twigs
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To: rhema
And not a single movie about Jesus?

Ben-Hur was very religiously themed and had a scene with Jesus. Not a movie ABOUT Jesus, no, but...

Also, The Ten Commandments made the list. At least it isn't an entirely Godless.

14 posted on 06/21/2006 6:49:39 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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To: BibChr

Dogma?


15 posted on 06/21/2006 6:49:49 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: twigs

Me too! I wanted to see those women die. Far earlier than they did. Those women weren't rebels, they were just stupid! :~D


16 posted on 06/21/2006 6:50:41 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ecurbh
Thanks for the ping!

I find this shocking but not suprising the way the world seems to be heading.

17 posted on 06/21/2006 6:53:14 AM PDT by Anne of DC (RUMMY FAN BIG BIG TIME!)
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To: stuartcr

Oh, stop.


18 posted on 06/21/2006 6:54:30 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: pgyanke

Ah - I had said Ten Commandments wasn't there... I missed it... at 79.


19 posted on 06/21/2006 6:55:25 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: rhema

Chariots of Fire was #100. Way too low for that movie.


20 posted on 06/21/2006 6:55:50 AM PDT by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: rhema

yankee doodle dandy rates almost at the bottom? story of george cohan, great american patriot, who wrote two of the most popular and inspiring patriotic songs, Over There and You're a Grand Old Flag.


21 posted on 06/21/2006 7:03:54 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: rhema

I would agree in concept that return of the King is highly inspirational, but the entire Trilogy of LOTR ought to be considered as a whole. There is much to be admired in complete works.


22 posted on 06/21/2006 7:04:23 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: hunter112
"And "The Wizard of Oz"?? I guess we know what that's inspired..."

Gay people should not be allowed to make lists.
I'm not sure why Christianity Today had a story that falls all over it's self for Lord of the Rings. This movie is very short on religion of any kind and full of evil, witchcraft and demons.

As for the list;

Rocky?? has anyone watched it lately?? It's a B movie at best.

Anything with Tom Hanks?? Who wants to start crying in front of a crowd?

Saving Private Ryan?? Any episode of Combat is better. Stalag 17 is much better and inspiring.

Down the list at #17 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest??? I saw this when it first came out. I did not leave the theater inspired that night. The guy who was trying to inspire everyone ended up getting a lobotomy then was suffocated and it took place in a mental ward.

There was definitely allot of emanate lisping going on when this list was put together.
23 posted on 06/21/2006 7:23:31 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Rummyfan

Schindlers List in the top 10???

I was looking for "SHANE" and was pleasantly surprised to find it.

Should have been in the top 10.


If you've never seen "SHANE" go get it.


24 posted on 06/21/2006 7:35:22 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: proudpapa

"If you've never seen "SHANE" go get it"

Great western!

My favorite 3 are;

The Big Country
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Winchester 73


25 posted on 06/21/2006 7:39:54 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: rhema
>How could they have missed it?

There's a scene in here
where the scientist's daughter
takes off her shirt and

swims in the lagoon
while the giant komodo
watches from the trees . . .

That is filmmaking.
I can't take seriously
films without such scenes.

26 posted on 06/21/2006 7:45:36 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss
I'll be happy to make room for it by excising Dances with Wolves from the list. For that matter, I'd trade almost any other movie for Dances with Wolves.
27 posted on 06/21/2006 8:12:17 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Koblenz
Chariots of Fire was #100. Way too low for that movie.

About 99 spots too low for 1981's Oscar-winning movie.

28 posted on 06/21/2006 8:14:14 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: stuartcr
I'm guessing, that not everyone thinks the same.

On FreeRepublic, that's tantamount to saying the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.

29 posted on 06/21/2006 8:16:37 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: absolootezer0
yankee doodle dandy rates almost at the bottom? story of george cohan, great american patriot, who wrote two of the most popular and inspiring patriotic songs, Over There and You're a Grand Old Flag.

Well, if you're a hip movie reviewer, you wouldn't want to be accused of boosterism, would you?

30 posted on 06/21/2006 8:18:51 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

Some days, ya just have to state the obvious....besides, it can be fun.


31 posted on 06/21/2006 8:19:42 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr
Some days, ya just have to state the obvious....besides, it can be fun.

Not to mention rough and tumble and a bit bruising, but fun nevertheless.

32 posted on 06/21/2006 8:24:20 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Dixie Yooper
Gay people should not be allowed to make lists.

Not even fashion lists? ;^)

33 posted on 06/21/2006 8:26:02 AM PDT by Samwise (All that is needed for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.)
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To: rhema

"Thelma and Louise" and "Breaking Away"? You've got to be kidding.


34 posted on 06/21/2006 8:30:18 AM PDT by P8riot (Stupid is forever. Ignorance can be fixed.)
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To: P8riot
"Thelma and Louise" and "Breaking Away"? You've got to be kidding.

I think NOW lobbied heavily for the former.

35 posted on 06/21/2006 8:32:54 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Thelma and Louise is supposed to inspire? Inspire to go out and do what, shoot men and drive off a cliff? Yeah, that's inspirational.

Sounds like the AFI was trying to be sophisticated. Inspirational movies are not usually what the tony folks enjoy, however, so I guess this list is what passes for inspirational among that crowd.

36 posted on 06/21/2006 8:41:56 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: ecurbh
Thanks for the ping. I'm shocked that Bareback Mountain or The Battleship Potemkin didn't make this Hollywood-generated list.
37 posted on 06/21/2006 8:42:17 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: proudpapa
If you've never seen "SHANE" go get it.

I hated Shane. I didn't hate the Shane character so much, I hated the worthless "Oh Shane, go in that bar alone and fight our battles for us while we wait out here" townspeople.

38 posted on 06/21/2006 8:44:55 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: SuziQ
Thelma and Louise is supposed to inspire? Inspire to go out and do what

That's my question....

39 posted on 06/21/2006 8:45:45 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Dixie Yooper
"And "The Wizard of Oz"?? I guess we know what that's inspired..." Gay people should not be allowed to make lists. I'm not sure why Christianity Today had a story that falls all over it's self for Lord of the Rings. This movie is very short on religion of any kind and full of evil, witchcraft and demons.

I don't understand the connection between Wizard of Oz and gay people. Am I missing something??

LOTR is very moral story about good and evil. You can't show good without showing evil. The trilogy should have been in the top ten.

Thelma and Louise? Puh-leeze Loo-uise.

40 posted on 06/21/2006 8:46:35 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Dixie Yooper
This movie is very short on religion of any kind and full of evil, witchcraft and demons.

There is no witchcraft in LOTR, though there is evil and there are demonic forces. LOTR does not glorify those things, and shows the stuggle to defeat them, while showing that some succumb to the evil. Doesn't the Bible teach us how to struggle against evil, but also show that some will not be able to fight evil, but will give over to it?

41 posted on 06/21/2006 8:47:13 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: HairOfTheDog

""Oh Shane, go in that bar alone and fight our battles for us while we wait out here" townspeople."

High Noon probably doesn't rate too high on your list either. Open Range was a western where the townspeople got into the action.


42 posted on 06/21/2006 8:47:29 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper
I did not leave the theater inspired that night. The guy who was trying to inspire everyone ended up getting a lobotomy then was suffocated and it took place in a mental ward.

Well now, the story of The Guy who inspired a lot of people and got beat up and nailed to a tree for His efforts seems to have stood the test of time...

Are you a Yooper as in Iron Mountain and all that, by the way?

43 posted on 06/21/2006 8:48:48 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Dixie Yooper

Heh... Yes, you'd be right :~)


44 posted on 06/21/2006 8:49:44 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: rhema

They also left out: Lassie Come Home (1943) and I Remember Mama (1948). Serpico??? Inspiring???


45 posted on 06/21/2006 8:52:13 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: SuziQ
"There is no witchcraft in LOTR"

Wizard or witch, magic or witchcraft. There really is no difference unless your trying to put down Harry Potter in favor of LOTR to your congregation. Neither movie belongs in the church, or deserves a positive article written about it in a Christian magazine.

They are however great movies that do inspire. Just not in a religious way.
46 posted on 06/21/2006 8:56:30 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
"Are you a Yooper as in Iron Mountain and all that, by the way?"

Yes I am, but from Iron River.
I won't compare Jack Nicholson with Christ.
47 posted on 06/21/2006 9:02:16 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Another omission: SIGNS

Inspiring? Hmm...I watched it last weekend. I judged it to be an entertaining sci-fi story. Decently acted and poorly directed, especially the last scene. I wasn't particularly inspired by it. Other Mel Gibson films are much more inspiring, that's for sure. But, hey, if you find it inspiring then good for you!

48 posted on 06/21/2006 9:02:23 AM PDT by Ignatz (quoting Freeper cyborg: "The lay teachers could not make hands of some girls.")
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To: Dixie Yooper
I think it's a totally legit comparison. There's a reason the Christ figure is such a common theme in all of art; plus there's the whole point of all us being created in His image. And saving and inspiring others, even if it's only the one Indian, is the message.

Beautiful country up where you're from, but ya hardly need a flat-lander like me to tell ya that...

49 posted on 06/21/2006 9:12:41 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: rhema

I agree and thank you!!!


50 posted on 06/21/2006 9:14:53 AM PDT by Tolkien (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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