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U.S. Soldiers Tortured: Where Is the Outrage?
FoxNews/Fox&Friends Blog ^ | 6-21-06 | E.D. Hill

Posted on 06/21/2006 9:44:51 AM PDT by TomGuy

I'm mad.

The New York Times wants closed. The San Jose Mercury News claims that Gitmo nurtures a culture of death. The Cleveland Plain Dealer wants Gitmo closed. Journalists and editorial staffs are up in arms that there might possibly be some kind of torture occurring.

So what do they say when torture OBVIOUSLY occurs? How do they react when two U.S. servicemen — in -approved uniforms — have their hearts cut out, their testicles cut off, their penises cut off and stuffed in their mouths, arms contorted and eyes gouged? THIS is torture.

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1 posted on 06/21/2006 9:44:52 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

E.D. was enraged this morning.

She writes more in the linked F&F blog.


2 posted on 06/21/2006 9:45:43 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

Another example of the utter failure of the Junk Media as a serious source of information. So what did the Traitor Press say today?


3 posted on 06/21/2006 9:46:23 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The Democrat Party! For people who prefer slogans over solutions!)
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To: TomGuy

Hey, it makes President Bush look bad, so to the MSM and dimocrats, it's a good thing.

Stop at nothing to make Bush look bad, that is their entire strategy, nothing more.


4 posted on 06/21/2006 9:46:38 AM PDT by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: TomGuy

bttt


5 posted on 06/21/2006 9:47:30 AM PDT by kimmie7 (If they say you kick like a girl, take it as a COMPLIMENT!)
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To: TomGuy
How do they react when two U.S. servicemen — in -approved uniforms — have their hearts cut out, their testicles cut off, their penises cut off and stuffed in their mouths, arms contorted and eyes gouged?

Words cannot express the horror that was inflicted upon these two brave men. I hope they weren't alive when these atrocities were inflicted upon them.

THIS is true true face of Islamo-fascism. They did the same things to a French Jew, only because he was Jewish. Islam is the greatest threat to civilization, since the Nazi's.
6 posted on 06/21/2006 9:47:45 AM PDT by AntiGovernment (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
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To: TomGuy

To the left, it is only torture if it happens to a non-American.


7 posted on 06/21/2006 9:48:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: TomGuy


Smelly hippies protesting the fight against Islamo-fascism.
8 posted on 06/21/2006 9:49:26 AM PDT by AntiGovernment (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
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To: TomGuy

For all the FoxNews whiners: I don't think you'll see Dan Rather or Katie Couric do this.

First I heard of this. I have purposely avoided this story so as not to get MY blood to boil, knowing what the outcome was going to be.

Oh well.


9 posted on 06/21/2006 9:51:07 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (My head hurts.)
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To: TomGuy
< snip > .....They were killed by two Iraqis who were supposedly working with us.
10 posted on 06/21/2006 9:51:10 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: TomGuy
"How do they react when two U.S. servicemen — in -approved uniforms — have their hearts cut out, their testicles cut off, their penises cut off and stuffed in their mouths, arms contorted and eyes gouged? "

That is what should be done to the man who did it to them. And I would be HAPPY to do it.

11 posted on 06/21/2006 9:51:49 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ann Coulter = The Conserative Diva)
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To: TomGuy

I'm outraged!

We need more tv stations and newspapers to voice the outrage of the American public over this kind of madness!


12 posted on 06/21/2006 9:52:21 AM PDT by beachn4fun (The FR Canteen ~ FReeping 24/7/365 to honor our military, allies, and their families.)
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To: TomGuy

Is her description of the two GIs' fate true ?


13 posted on 06/21/2006 9:53:18 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: TomGuy
I had O'Reilly on last night as I was working. He interviewed Laura Ingram, who I think is absolutely brilliant on the radio (8-10 PM for me on WABC Radio 770 in NY). They talked about how the lame media will barely mention the torture of these two fine young soldiers. I thought I heard this morning that al-Zarqawi's replacement (still don't know his name yet) claimed personal responsibility for these deaths.

We need to strike hard and keep striking until the terrorists are gone and their jihad and islamofascism is completely eliminated. Keep fighting the bad guys including the media who are mostly anti-American.
14 posted on 06/21/2006 9:54:24 AM PDT by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel Rocks!)
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To: stainlessbanner

They were killed by two Iraqis who were supposedly working with us.

Thats right .... and not only that,
Iraqi forces who had trained with the Americans had fired at them twice before the incident that killed Patrick McCaffrey, and he had reported it to his superiors, she said.


15 posted on 06/21/2006 9:56:32 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: Lazamataz
To the left, it is only torture if it happens to a non-American.

Not quite. Third world tyrants and terrorists can torture non-Americans with impunity. The media only cares when blame can be laid at the feet of George Bush, Republicans, America, white people or Western Civilization in general. e.g., you never heard boo in the meida about what Idi Amin did to his people, but they never got tired of wringing their hands over the South African apartied regime.

16 posted on 06/21/2006 9:57:48 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: TomGuy

Excellent point.

Many on the left want the US to lose.

It's that simple.


17 posted on 06/21/2006 9:58:49 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: TomGuy

The lack of moral outrage, coverage and communication concerning this atrocity by the MSM and even certain members of US government, only clarifies and spotlights who the enemy actually is - he is among us.

Now, what do we do about it?


18 posted on 06/21/2006 9:59:17 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: AntiGovernment
One noticeable thing about these demonstrations is that they are all lead by women and supported by girlie men.

WHERE ARE REAL MEN GOING TO HIT THE STREETS IN SUPPORT OF OUR PRESIDENT AND TROOPS?

19 posted on 06/21/2006 10:01:44 AM PDT by MountainMenace (E Pluribus Unum! An oxymoron for liberals.)
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To: TomGuy
How do they react when two U.S. servicemen — in Geneva Convention-approved uniforms — have their hearts cut out, their testicles cut off, their penises cut off and stuffed in their mouths, arms contorted and eyes gouged? THIS is torture.

I'll tell you how the NYSlimes will react ... it might make it below the fold front page the first day ... after that, if the story is covered at all it will be buried on page 8.
Of course when the Abu Ghraib story broke ... you know, the panties over the head dog snarls at prisoner story ... the NYSlimes had it on the front page for nearly two months. Over 140 stories written on it in the first 60 days.

20 posted on 06/21/2006 10:02:54 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: TomGuy
What a juxtaposition of headlines.

WASHINGTON (AP) The Marine Corps on Wednesday planned to charge seven Marines and one sailor with murder in connection with the April death of an Iraqi civilian, a defense official said.

FOX NEWS U.S. Soldiers Tortured, bodies booby-trapped.

How in the hell can we fight a war against these vermin with the rules of engagement that were engineered decades ago against armies who wore uniforms and had some kind of front lines?

I hate to say this, but, we either do what we did in Faluja in these other towns or we need to get the hell out completely. THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT MUST CHANGE to reflect the enemy we are fighting.
The Bush administration AND the Pentagon need to step up and go on the offensive and STOP defending themselves in this fight.
21 posted on 06/21/2006 10:03:39 AM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: Lazamataz

Our ACE media and our ACE politicians are only outraged when our enemy are offended with panties on their heads or dogs barking in their faces. I hate our media, I hate democrats and I hate Europeans too!


22 posted on 06/21/2006 10:03:55 AM PDT by asp1
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To: TomasUSMC; stainlessbanner

"They were killed by two Iraqis who were supposedly working with us."

I don't think that's correct. I think the two you are referring to were killed in 2004. Going to double-check.


23 posted on 06/21/2006 10:04:07 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: TomGuy

Much easier to "Blame Bush" mentality. Hypocrites MSM and the liberal leftists have no shame.


24 posted on 06/21/2006 10:05:23 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: MountainMenace
WHERE ARE REAL MEN GOING TO HIT THE STREETS IN SUPPORT OF OUR PRESIDENT AND TROOPS?

A bunch of us been there, done that, in Crawford. A whole other bunch is doing it on a continuing basis outside Walter Reed in DC. Then there are the Patriot Guards. I just read a story where 600 of them, and their Harleys, showed up at a soldiers funeral to screen the mourners from the Westboro Baptist bunch of idiots.

25 posted on 06/21/2006 10:06:46 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Hugin
I have opined on these pages that the U.S.A. subscribes to such things as the Geneva Convention in an effort to protect our people and not as an effort to look out for our enemies. That being said, we should announce today that beginning tomorrow, the United States Military will reciprocate the treatment provided to our solders by the enemy. Starting tomorrow, we should publicly draw and quarter a dozen Iraqi prisoners in public. Everyday thereafter, we should do the same to another dozen until the bastards who did this to our guys are turned over to the U.S. Army.
26 posted on 06/21/2006 10:07:03 AM PDT by Tom D. (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benj. Franklin)
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To: TomGuy

I heard a woman call into talk radio (local) this morning asking where the outrage from the American muslim communtiy was.......the host went on and on about how muslims are "afraid" to speak up........the woman wasn't buying the crap however.
IMHO Any religion which condones murder and butchery does not belong in America. And that doesn't make me a racist.


27 posted on 06/21/2006 10:07:10 AM PDT by newcthem (Where can I order a dozen bacon rapped korans.........to go?)
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To: TomGuy

I heard a woman call into talk radio (local) this morning asking where the outrage from the American muslim communtiy was.......the host went on and on about how muslims are "afraid" to speak up........the woman wasn't buying the crap however.
IMHO Any religion which condones murder and butchery does not belong in America. And that doesn't make me a racist.


28 posted on 06/21/2006 10:07:20 AM PDT by newcthem (Where can I order a dozen bacon wrapped korans.........to go?)
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To: TAdams8591
That is what should be done to the man who did it to them.

Then bury the carcases with pig entrails. Take pictures and make sure the terrorists see them to show them what their fate will be. That will likely give them pause.

I'm not kidding. Adopting tactics like these stopped an Islamic uprising in the Philippines in the 1950s dead in its tracks.

29 posted on 06/21/2006 10:08:13 AM PDT by chimera
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To: AntiGovernment
Can't wait to see what the islamofacists do to the smelly hippies when they can get their hands on them. What is it with these people? Don't they understand that these muslim nutbags will kill them as easy as they would kill and American soldier or civilian? Idiots, plain and simple, mind dumb idiots.......
30 posted on 06/21/2006 10:08:16 AM PDT by b4its2late (Monstra mihi pecuniam!)
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To: TomGuy

Anyone who worries that we are torturing our prisoners isn't a serious person. You can try to engage them in a serious argument but you aren't going to get one.

If you think handling a Koran with bare hands is torture, if you think putting woman's underwear on someone's head is torture, you are completely unable to process the meaning of words, the meaning of the simplest of words eludes you. You will not ready for the adult table, where adults discuss adult issues, like how to secure the country.

In the real world, the man who would humiliate a prisoner is obviously deserving of censure, and he will get it. But he isn't going to come through your window and cut your head from your body. It is never going to happen. There are real people who cut real heads from real bodies, and they do it for reasons that make no sense to anyone other than themselves. These men are your enemies, if you are capable of processing that concept.

The men, kids sometimes, men and women both, that we send to confront these monsters are not saints in any cartoonish or juvenile notion of the word. But they are noble and brave enough to put themselves in mortal danger on our behalf. The least we can do, what we owe them, is to stand behind them when the bullets and the accusations fly.

They have rules that they live by, and they will face the consequences when they step over the line. But they are at war with head-choppers who care nothing about rules of engagement. There will be no commission to investigate the men who slice our soldiers' heads from their bodies. There will only be other soldiers who will put themselves on the line to do what normal people fear to do, which is to close with the enemy and kill them.


31 posted on 06/21/2006 10:09:02 AM PDT by marron
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To: asp1
I hate our media, I hate democrats and I hate Europeans too!

Except Poland. Don't hate Poland! :-)

32 posted on 06/21/2006 10:09:43 AM PDT by The Blitherer ("These are not dark days, these are great days." – W. S. Churchill)
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To: newcthem
Any religion which condones murder and butchery does not belong in America. And that doesn't make me a racist.

it is almost as though the leadership of our nation has told the citizens of the nation to 'go to h*ll'

33 posted on 06/21/2006 10:10:16 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: TomGuy
Nothing rips the facade from the blatant anti-Americanism of the Left and its Propaganda Machine (the Mainstream Newsmedia) like this does.

This odious Propaganda Machine has earned and deserves the utter contempt of decent people everywhere.

34 posted on 06/21/2006 10:10:45 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George Bush and his supurb leadership.)
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To: 1066AD
Is her description of the two GIs' fate true ?

Apparently, it is. Yesterday, Gen. Caldwell was so shaken, he could hardly speak. He refused to give much detail at the presser, just saying the desecrations were so bad, that it required DNA to identify the remains.
35 posted on 06/21/2006 10:10:52 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Now we (me at least) know the details of the Islamic savagery perpetrated on these wonderful men. Muhammad made war this way and all Muslims are commanded to emulate his life

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2006-09,GGLG:en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=%22emulate+his+life%22++mohammed&spell=1


36 posted on 06/21/2006 10:11:02 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: dennisw

Muhammad the assassin. This brigand is about the worst figure to build a religion (cult actually) round. And to think the Muslims call Mo the perfect man, a most worthy example for all mankind to emulate. And faithful Muslims are ordered to emulate his life


37 posted on 06/21/2006 10:12:00 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: TomGuy

If it were not for President Bush and his aggressive, wise leadership, such horrors as this could well be occurring in the United States right now.


38 posted on 06/21/2006 10:12:32 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George Bush and his supurb leadership.)
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To: TomGuy

It must be because they didn't put panties on the soldiers heads and let dogs bark at them. The NY Times seems to notice when those means of torture are used.


39 posted on 06/21/2006 10:12:59 AM PDT by Pookee
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To: newcthem
I wrote to CAIR yesterday, asking for a comment. Nothing. Checked their webpage, where they keep close track of the latest "atrocities'. Nothing there, either.

I am now going to call our local rag and ask if they plan an editorial on this, one where they don't take the terrorists' side. Not holding my breath.
40 posted on 06/21/2006 10:13:04 AM PDT by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves)
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To: Tom D.

The anti-Gitmo guys will lie low for a week...because this act violates the Geneva Convention in a gross fashion...but you know...they didn't sign the convention and never will. And this is why Gitmo exists...so when the anti-Gitmo guys finally pop up out of the hole...we need to make sure they remember this act and just how low the enemy will go...oh, but didn't we learn this on 9-11 already? Are there lessons that can never be learned?


41 posted on 06/21/2006 10:14:22 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: TomGuy

Have the details on their deaths been reported before?


42 posted on 06/21/2006 10:14:41 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: 1066AD
Is her description of the two GIs' fate true ?

I hope not. But it is certainly possible.

43 posted on 06/21/2006 10:15:28 AM PDT by TankerKC (¿José puede usted ver?)
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To: Savage Beast

if you think the mooselimbs in this country aren't itching to get it on here, just like Iraq......you haven't been looking around. We have no idea who is in this country, and it is only a matter of time before the mooselimbs and their associates pull off something larger than 911. I don't know what it will be or when it will be but I would not bet against it happening.


44 posted on 06/21/2006 10:15:34 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: GaltMeister

Change dimocrats to DHIMMICRATS!!


45 posted on 06/21/2006 10:15:55 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: TomGuy

Well, its 'bout what we expect from the savages. They must have been in a hurry. I expected to see a throat cutting or beheading video.


46 posted on 06/21/2006 10:16:24 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: chimera
"I'm not kidding. Adopting tactics like these stopped an Islamic uprising in the Philippines in the 1950s dead in its tracks."

I'm not kidding either and agree. I would have no problem imposing the same cruelty myself on a man who most willingly and gleefully inflicted such upon others.

It is not surprising the above tactic worked int he Phillipines.

47 posted on 06/21/2006 10:16:37 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ann Coulter = The Conserative Diva)
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To: 1066AD
Is her description of the two GIs' fate true ?

I'm guessing it must be. People in news rooms tend to hear thing like this through the grapevine. It's written as if it's assumed to be true. But... good God.

48 posted on 06/21/2006 10:17:36 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: AntiGovernment

The face of "peace" huh, what a joke. Looks angry and hateful to me. On a side not, I love what President Bush said this morning at press conference with the Austrian Chancellor and the President of the EU (Spanish). An Austrian reporter asked the President why so many Europeans, and Austrians in particular, did not trust him or the US, and what was his reaction to a new poll in The Financial Times that showed a majority of Brits thought America was more of a threat to world peace then Iran? Bush said that "to Europeans 9/11 was a moment, but to the US it changed the way we do things." Translated, "you're a euroweenie, you're afraid to do anything about Islamo-facism, so shut the hell up, sit down and listen and you might learn something."


49 posted on 06/21/2006 10:17:41 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: TomasUSMC

I think you are confusing two separate incidents. an investigation of an earlier event where two servicemen were killed supposedly by ambush has uncovered their murder by Iraqi troops they had trained.


50 posted on 06/21/2006 10:19:57 AM PDT by t2buckeye
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