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U.S. Soldiers Tortured: Where Is the Outrage?
FoxNews/Fox&Friends Blog ^ | 6-21-06 | E.D. Hill

Posted on 06/21/2006 9:44:51 AM PDT by TomGuy

I'm mad.

The New York Times wants closed. The San Jose Mercury News claims that Gitmo nurtures a culture of death. The Cleveland Plain Dealer wants Gitmo closed. Journalists and editorial staffs are up in arms that there might possibly be some kind of torture occurring.

So what do they say when torture OBVIOUSLY occurs? How do they react when two U.S. servicemen — in -approved uniforms — have their hearts cut out, their testicles cut off, their penises cut off and stuffed in their mouths, arms contorted and eyes gouged? THIS is torture.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: doublestandard; iraq; menchaca; military; terrorism; thomastucker; torture
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To: Tom D.

The anti-Gitmo guys will lie low for a week...because this act violates the Geneva Convention in a gross fashion...but you know...they didn't sign the convention and never will. And this is why Gitmo exists...so when the anti-Gitmo guys finally pop up out of the hole...we need to make sure they remember this act and just how low the enemy will go...oh, but didn't we learn this on 9-11 already? Are there lessons that can never be learned?


41 posted on 06/21/2006 10:14:22 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: TomGuy

Have the details on their deaths been reported before?


42 posted on 06/21/2006 10:14:41 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: 1066AD
Is her description of the two GIs' fate true ?

I hope not. But it is certainly possible.

43 posted on 06/21/2006 10:15:28 AM PDT by TankerKC (¿José puede usted ver?)
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To: Savage Beast

if you think the mooselimbs in this country aren't itching to get it on here, just like Iraq......you haven't been looking around. We have no idea who is in this country, and it is only a matter of time before the mooselimbs and their associates pull off something larger than 911. I don't know what it will be or when it will be but I would not bet against it happening.


44 posted on 06/21/2006 10:15:34 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: GaltMeister

Change dimocrats to DHIMMICRATS!!


45 posted on 06/21/2006 10:15:55 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: TomGuy

Well, its 'bout what we expect from the savages. They must have been in a hurry. I expected to see a throat cutting or beheading video.


46 posted on 06/21/2006 10:16:24 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: chimera
"I'm not kidding. Adopting tactics like these stopped an Islamic uprising in the Philippines in the 1950s dead in its tracks."

I'm not kidding either and agree. I would have no problem imposing the same cruelty myself on a man who most willingly and gleefully inflicted such upon others.

It is not surprising the above tactic worked int he Phillipines.

47 posted on 06/21/2006 10:16:37 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ann Coulter = The Conserative Diva)
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To: 1066AD
Is her description of the two GIs' fate true ?

I'm guessing it must be. People in news rooms tend to hear thing like this through the grapevine. It's written as if it's assumed to be true. But... good God.

48 posted on 06/21/2006 10:17:36 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: AntiGovernment

The face of "peace" huh, what a joke. Looks angry and hateful to me. On a side not, I love what President Bush said this morning at press conference with the Austrian Chancellor and the President of the EU (Spanish). An Austrian reporter asked the President why so many Europeans, and Austrians in particular, did not trust him or the US, and what was his reaction to a new poll in The Financial Times that showed a majority of Brits thought America was more of a threat to world peace then Iran? Bush said that "to Europeans 9/11 was a moment, but to the US it changed the way we do things." Translated, "you're a euroweenie, you're afraid to do anything about Islamo-facism, so shut the hell up, sit down and listen and you might learn something."


49 posted on 06/21/2006 10:17:41 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: TomasUSMC

I think you are confusing two separate incidents. an investigation of an earlier event where two servicemen were killed supposedly by ambush has uncovered their murder by Iraqi troops they had trained.


50 posted on 06/21/2006 10:19:57 AM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: AntiGovernment
"THIS is true true face of Islamo-fascism. They did the same things to a French Jew, only because he was Jewish. Islam is the greatest threat to civilization, since the Nazi's."

As Satan's most successful effort to date, Islam is, IMO, the greatest threat to civilization IN HUMAN HISTORY.

51 posted on 06/21/2006 10:20:44 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: TomGuy
Apparently, it is. Yesterday, Gen. Caldwell was so shaken, he could hardly speak. He refused to give much detail at the presser, just saying the desecrations were so bad, that it required DNA to identify the remains.

This is exactly what the Muslims want. This is why Muhammad waged war by terrorism and so have his followers through the centuries. To use terror to rattle and depress enemies with the objective being to get their adversaries to surrender and retreat. This lessens Muslim casualties and leads to easier conquest

Israeli soldiers have also been mutilated this way in wars they fought with Egypt, Syria etc.

Terror is the way Mohamed made war and most Muslims have emulated him ever since.

From the effing Koran:

008.012 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

From Hadiths:
Allah's Apostle said:
"I have been made victorious with terror"
Bukhari 4:52:220

52 posted on 06/21/2006 10:20:49 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: Little Ray
"I expected to see a throat cutting or beheading video."

I thought so too. But additionally I thought these men were going to be brutally tortured.

53 posted on 06/21/2006 10:21:07 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ann Coulter = The Conserative Diva)
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To: The Blitherer
I should have qualified my comment (anger overruled good sense I'm afraid), I hate Europeans other than our allies. I hate Europeans who are incapable of doing anything other than whine and complain. I am sick to death of wienie Euros, and contend that there hasn't been a real man born in either France or Germany in at least 60 years.

I have profound respect for the military and people of the countries who get what this war is all about. :0)

54 posted on 06/21/2006 10:21:46 AM PDT by asp1
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To: marron

Very well said.


55 posted on 06/21/2006 10:22:34 AM PDT by Mordacious
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To: TomGuy

Private Tucker's family's appearance on the Today Show:

"We don't understand the big political picture. We understand what has happened. Our son has died for the freedom of everybody in the United States. We are very proud of our son."


56 posted on 06/21/2006 10:23:21 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: dennisw
This is exactly what the Muslims want.

Yes, the Muslims have succeeded in shaking us up. But don't think for even a minute that this won't make our service men and women even more determined to destroy this enemy. Ultimately, I think this will have the opposite effect than what the Muslims hoped for.

57 posted on 06/21/2006 10:24:23 AM PDT by The Blitherer ("These are not dark days, these are great days." – W. S. Churchill)
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To: TomGuy; All

Should the President speak out?


58 posted on 06/21/2006 10:24:26 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: MountainMenace

We are working to fulfill government contracts to deliver defense articles to our Forces. Forgive us if we skip
the street shenanigans.


59 posted on 06/21/2006 10:26:18 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: stainlessbanner

This was an incident from 2004, not the most recent event.


60 posted on 06/21/2006 10:26:48 AM PDT by Roccus (Cynical romantic or romantic cynic.....you decide.)
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