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email from Planned Parenthood on SD abortion ballot question
Posted on 06/21/2006 10:20:09 AM PDT by Gopher Broke
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To: Gopher Broke
Excuse me, this is the Business of South Dakota not lunatic Liberal activists in St Paul Mn.
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posted on
06/21/2006 10:22:39 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(The Democrat Party! For people who prefer slogans over solutions!)
To: Gopher Broke
The South Dakota ban does not even include an exception for women who are raped. It deserves to be overturned, and Ronald Reagan, a strong supporter of rape exceptions, would agree with this effort.
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posted on
06/21/2006 10:24:59 AM PDT
by
AntiGovernment
(A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
To: Gopher Broke
Translation: "Planned Barrenhood (aka, the Sisterhood of Soulless Ghouls) needs baby-blood to fuel our Sterility Machines. Won't you help us keep the flow of baby-blood free and unimpeded?"
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posted on
06/21/2006 10:29:30 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(I don't vote for liberals -- regardless of party.)
To: AntiGovernment
So, you pretty much believt that the child conceived by the act of rape should be punished more severely than the rapist?
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posted on
06/21/2006 10:29:53 AM PDT
by
Mr. Lucky
To: AntiGovernment
The South Dakota ban does not even include an exception for women who are raped.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because a baby was conceived via rape, it doesn't mean he's somehow less human and deserving of the death penalty.
Ask a child who was conceived via rape, put up for adoption, and subsequently raised by a loving family if he'd rather be dead. Not everyone was given life under ideal circumstances. That doesn't mean that death is a better option.
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posted on
06/21/2006 10:33:19 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(I don't vote for liberals -- regardless of party.)
To: Antoninus
I disagree with the "except in the case of rape or incest" illogic.
I have heard most of the political and emotional rationale for that position and though they are seductive, they are not convincing. From the political perspective, one might suggest that there is a better chance of getting anti-abortion legislation passed when exceptions are allowed and I have no reason to doubt that assertion. From the emotional angle, we all have heart-felt sympathy for the victimized mother.
There is a powerful reluctance to force a woman to continue her physically demanding and emotionally draining role in the most divine function of God's nature when the initiation of that process was without the mother's normally assumed consent. We would be assigning to her the responsibility to carry into this world a new soul who will be a seemingly unholy combination of her own self and of a man who is either freightenly unknown or sinfully familiar.
There is, of course, the almost inescapable temptation to assume this new person will somehow not be good because the genetic code of a rapist was used in his/her construction. Or that the new person will somehow not be complete because of the potential for physiological problems to arise when daddy is grandpa.
Adoption is always an option when the post-birth burdens outweigh the natural desire of the mother to nuture a child which is, after all, still half her.
On any scientific or logical rationale, assuming human life has value, I would ask two questions:
1) Does it continue to grow and change via natural biologic process?
If the answer is 'yes', then it is alive.
2) What will it be if the process is allowed to complete?
If the answer is 'human', then it has rights.
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posted on
06/21/2006 10:36:37 AM PDT
by
BuddhaBrown
(Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
To: Gopher Broke
This is as it should be; not determined by a group of judges, but voted on by the people of that state.
South Dakota, the nation's eyes are on you. People will hate whatever decision is made, but at LEAST the people of South Dakota will have made the decision. It will be a decision made by the people, not forced on the people.
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posted on
06/21/2006 10:37:21 AM PDT
by
Hodar
(With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
To: Mr. Lucky
So, you pretty much believt that the child conceived by the act of rape should be punished more severely than the rapist?
I don't think that the woman should be punished more severely than the rapist: by being forced to carry a child, conceived in violence, who looks like her rapist.
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posted on
06/21/2006 10:37:49 AM PDT
by
AntiGovernment
(A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
To: Antoninus
Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because a baby was conceived via rape, it doesn't mean he's somehow less human and deserving of the death penalty.
Do you disagree with Reagan?
Ask a child who was conceived via rape, put up for adoption, and subsequently raised by a loving family if he'd rather be dead.
I'm concerned about the effects that this will have on the woman. I don't believe in pushing her around, after such a horrible atrocity.
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posted on
06/21/2006 10:39:44 AM PDT
by
AntiGovernment
(A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
To: AntiGovernment
If the child were conceived by a man who later, say, beat the mother, or robbed her, or stole her car, should she then be permitted to kill the baby?
To: AntiGovernment
Murder is murder, no matter WHO you kill!
To: Mr. Lucky
And how many children are we talking about??? How many children in South Dakota are conceived by rape?? And because maybe a couple were conceived by rape this makes a law that doesn't make exceptions for this case unjust. All those other unborn people have a right to die? All the talk about excluding incest and rape by Planned Parenthood is a way of diverting people from the real issue. Every year, hundreds of thousands of people are being terminated for one reason only - their presence is inconvenient. And this termination is being dressed up in women's rights issues.
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posted on
06/21/2006 10:48:11 AM PDT
by
Essie
To: MNJohnnie
I added all three states because the last letter in the post above is from the Planned Parenthood head over all 3 states:
Sarah A. Stoesz
President and CEO
Planned Parenthood Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota Action Fund
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posted on
06/21/2006 10:49:28 AM PDT
by
Gopher Broke
(I would rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Teddy Kennedy)
To: AntiGovernment
Why do you assume that a woman who is raped automatically wants to have an abortion?
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posted on
06/21/2006 11:04:35 AM PDT
by
apackof2
(That Girl is a Cowboy)
To: Gopher Broke
This should be voted on by the people, not a few old men. (Just like the immigration issue should be voted on by the people). Then hopefully get the issue out of politics.
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posted on
06/21/2006 11:05:36 AM PDT
by
tkathy
(The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
To: apackof2
I'm concerned about the effects that this will have on the woman. I don't believe in pushing her around, after such a horrible atrocity.I'm concerned about the effects that this will have on the woman. BABY. I don't believe in pushing her around, she will never be the same woman after such a horrible atrocity, as ABORTION
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posted on
06/21/2006 11:08:29 AM PDT
by
apackof2
(That Girl is a Cowboy)
To: Gopher Broke
"Anti-choice extremists have targeted South Dakota in their latest attempt to outlaw abortion"
Should this read: "Anti-life extremists have targeted South Dakota in their latest attempt to keep murder legal" ?
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posted on
06/21/2006 11:11:37 AM PDT
by
tdewey10
(It's time for the party to return to the principles of President Reagan.)
To: tdewey10
Aargh. I hate not being able to edit posts.
Shouldn't this read...
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posted on
06/21/2006 11:12:13 AM PDT
by
tdewey10
(It's time for the party to return to the principles of President Reagan.)
To: tkathy
This should be voted on by the people, not a few old men. (Just like the immigration issue should be voted on by the people). Then hopefully get the issue out of politics. Are you for real?
We have a democratic Republic were we have elect represenatives that make laws
And we can secondly also have petition drives like this to put issues on the ballot
So you consider wholesale genocide to be just a "politcal issue?"
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posted on
06/21/2006 11:14:06 AM PDT
by
apackof2
(That Girl is a Cowboy)
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