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Breaking on Fox Rick Santorum Reading Unclassified Version over 500 Chemical WMDs Found

Posted on 06/21/2006 2:39:13 PM PDT by COUNTrecount

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To: COUNTrecount

wow I take a nap and wake up to this!


151 posted on 06/21/2006 4:26:55 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: Ramius

Bingo.


152 posted on 06/21/2006 4:27:15 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: jazusamo

See #105. I think it's the right answer.


153 posted on 06/21/2006 4:27:48 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: cripplecreek; jveritas
This was discussed on Hume's show on FNC tonight. I was appalled by the panel's ignorance. Anyone who's been following jveritas's threads knows more than the dang panel.

jveritas, are you sending the folks at FNC a link to your translations? They could surely benefit from your hard work.

154 posted on 06/21/2006 4:29:15 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: hershey
Hmm, what does John F...ing Kerry have to say about this? Or Fatso Teddy? Hill? Pelosi, Murtha, Reid,PBS and NPR, the BBC, etc.? Nothing.

I'm listening to a tape-delayed Sean Hannity show blasting Ketchup Boy for his fresh "Bush lied, thousands died" charge, and that was live about 3 1/2 hours before Santorum dropped the bomb.

155 posted on 06/21/2006 4:31:25 PM PDT by steveegg (If the illegals would turn Mexico Red if they were forced there, why wouldn't they do that here?)
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To: COUNTrecount

Press Release: Senator Santorum Makes Major Announcement Regarding Newly Declassified Information Concerning Chemical Weapons Discovered in Iraq

“This is critically important information that the world community needs to know” – Senator Santorum


June 21, 2006

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), Chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, joined Congressman Peter Hoekstra, (R-MI-2), Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, today to make a major announcement regarding the release of newly declassified information that proves the existence of chemical munitions in Iraq since 2003. The information was released by the Director of National Intelligence, John Negroponte, and contained an unclassified summary of analysis conducted by the National Ground Intelligence Center. In March, Senator Santorum began advocating for the release of these documents to the American public.

“The information released today proves that weapons of mass destruction are, in fact, in Iraq,” said Senator Santorum. “It is essential for the American people to understand that these weapons are in Iraq. I will continue to advocate for the complete declassification of this report so we can more fully understand the complete WMD picture inside Iraq.”

The following are the six key points contained in the unclassified overview:

• Since 2003 Coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent.

• Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq’s pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist.

• Pre-Gulf War Iraqi chemical weapons could be sold on the black market. Use of these weapons by terrorists or insurgent groups would have implications for Coalition forces in Iraq. The possibility of use outside Iraq cannot be ruled out.

• The most likely munitions remaining are sarin and mustard-filled projectiles.

• The purity of the agent inside the munitions depends on many factors, including the manufacturing process, potential additives, and environmental storage conditions. While agents degrade over time, chemical warfare agents remain hazardous and potentially lethal.

• It has been reported in open press that insurgents and Iraqi groups desire to acquire and use chemical weapons.


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156 posted on 06/21/2006 4:33:51 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: COUNTrecount

Santorum has just been Hugh Hewitt's radio show discussing this in depth.

Replays of the show can be heard here...

http://www.ksky.com/

between 8-11PM CST (Santorum was on after about 15 minutes in the second hour).


157 posted on 06/21/2006 4:35:41 PM PDT by Redneck Limey
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IRAQ & WMDS [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
http://corner.nationalreview.com/

This pdf of a letter from John Negroponte is what Rick Santorum is talking about.
Posted at 7:32 PM
158 posted on 06/21/2006 4:38:05 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Ramius
The reason any WMD's in Iraq would be kept secret would be to keep Al Queda from digging around looking for it before we could find it.

I had to repost this because it makes so much sense. And thank god they never got a hold of any WMDs!

159 posted on 06/21/2006 4:38:21 PM PDT by proust
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To: conservative blonde

Seems to me loverly strategery to let Santorum run with this. He is facing a tough electoral challenge, not Bush.


160 posted on 06/21/2006 4:38:34 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

I think that could be it, it makes sense.


161 posted on 06/21/2006 4:39:39 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: bnelson44; Fedora; Howlin; ravingnutter; piasa; Peach; Grampa Dave; pinz-n-needlez; canadianally; ..

500 chem weapons warheads??? Yawn, don't care unless it's at least 50,000.... /sarcasm


Get ready, the libs will assess whether this information is being widely disseminated and noticed by the public. If they sense that their house of cards is collapsing with the public's perceptions, expect the most intense, vicious, and depraved propaganda campaign we have yet seen. I anticipate they will attack on at least 3 fronts: (1) disparage the info as still not very significant "old news, old weapons, degraded chemicals".... etc. (2) still not the "mushroom cloud" the WH said we should worry about; (3) this info must have been withheld and then released now for political purposes (with no explanation of why the WH wouldn't have wanted all possible evidence available for the 2004 campaign if they were thinking and behaving in political ways on this).

The circus has just begun, get ready for the fireworks!


162 posted on 06/21/2006 4:42:27 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: rhombus

Actually he had a short press conference on it just a while ago.


163 posted on 06/21/2006 4:43:23 PM PDT by Kath (Luvya Dubya)
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To: Kath

Video of press conference is here:

http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/21/santorum-military-has-found-500-chemical-munitions-shells-in-iraq/


164 posted on 06/21/2006 4:47:48 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Kath

Video of press conference is here:

http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/21/santorum-military-has-found-500-chemical-munitions-shells-in-iraq/


165 posted on 06/21/2006 4:47:48 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Cementjungle

Oh, my. My condolences.


166 posted on 06/21/2006 4:48:17 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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167 posted on 06/21/2006 4:48:39 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Cementjungle

BTW, I left off the /sarcasm - my meaning was "sorry you have a Dem MIL!" :-)


168 posted on 06/21/2006 4:49:03 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: fire and forget

WABC radio news began reporting the story at 7 PM


169 posted on 06/21/2006 4:49:16 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: proust
The reason any WMD's in Iraq would be kept secret would be to keep Al Queda from digging around looking for it before we could find it.

As long as we're tossing theories around how about this: Suppose the origins of the shells and/or their contents might embarass someone. Perhaps that somone is someone whose cooperation the Bush Administration is trying to acquire when dealing with other headline grabbing world events. Discretion would provide a useful trump card. Perhaps it's time to play that card.

170 posted on 06/21/2006 4:49:16 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: Enchante
"Everyone, prepare for some of the worst insanity we have seen yet from the Demagogues!!"

You are right, the Dems are going to totally dissemble on this. They will talk about timing. They will try to argue that WMD really mean nukes, so they haven't found any nukes, so Bush lied.

We should prepare for something else as well. And this is the worst insanity. Think about which prominent Dem has remained somewhat aloof from the WMD discussion, even being accused by members of her own party of being a hawk while anti-war forces in New York are trying to field a candidate against her. Yes, my friends, the ultimate spin on this will be that this will just go to prove that Hillary is still the smartest woman in the world.

Of course the reality is that her hubby still gets national security briefings and he has known for a long time that Iraq had WMDs.

Mark my words...
171 posted on 06/21/2006 4:51:32 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: SierraWasp

Thanks for the ping....


172 posted on 06/21/2006 4:52:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All
I caught just the end of an interview with Senator Santorum on Michael Reagans show about 1/2 hour ago. I didn't hear the beginning so I was unsure, at the time, what he was talking about.

He said that they sent out a press release announcing the press conference, with the subject "WMD found in Iraq", and only FOUR agencies sent reporters!!! They were Fox, CNS, and two others he didn't identify. He said it was unbelievable. They obviously don't want to stop reporting the NO WMD line.

173 posted on 06/21/2006 4:58:06 PM PDT by codercpc
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To: Enchante

Thanks for the ping!


174 posted on 06/21/2006 5:00:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: codercpc
"...they sent out a press release announcing the press conference, with the subject "WMD found in Iraq", and only FOUR agencies sent reporters!!!"

The MSM and the Demagogues (same thing, really) will now desperately pray this story fades away. If they cannot get away with ignoring it, then they will be like squids squirting black ink everywhere, hoping they can obscure the facts until the dozing public "moves on." It is probably all up to the conservatives in blogs, talk radio, etc. to turn up the heat because the MSM is desperate to avoid facing reality on this story.
175 posted on 06/21/2006 5:01:49 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Enchante; All

O'Reilly and Gingrich discussing this now.


176 posted on 06/21/2006 5:04:14 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: GrandEagle

This has the Freepers all in a tizzy. The war is now justified at a cost of 5 dead and 36 wounded US soldiers ($and $600,000,000) per shell. Yay!

Many are questioning, though, why the information was not released earlier. Speculation is that we kept it a secret to prevent al-Qaeda from knowing that such armaments might still be found and used. (Of course, if that’s the case, either Santorum has independently determined that these are ALL the weapons we’re ever going to find, or he has revealed state secrets to al-Qaeda in a cynical attempt to boost his polls against Casey.)

Personally, I’ll assume these shells are long-past-their-freshness-date junk, until more details emerge.

Comment by RunningDogLackey — June 21, 2006 @ 7:11 pm

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/21/santorum-wmd/


177 posted on 06/21/2006 5:04:28 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: proust
I had to repost this because it makes so much sense. And thank god they never got a hold of any WMDs!

Who says they didn't?

178 posted on 06/21/2006 5:04:31 PM PDT by GregoryFul (cheap, immigrant labor built America)
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To: TexKat

What do they want, shells minted yesterday? Someone is not living in the real world here.


180 posted on 06/21/2006 5:06:27 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: gustafmolotov

Really doesn't matter when or where the sarin was made. What matters is that it is effectively a stockpile of WMD found in Iraq.


181 posted on 06/21/2006 5:07:18 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: COUNTrecount

If it's not a nuke, the libs will say it doesn't count.


182 posted on 06/21/2006 5:08:44 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: TexKat
"This has the Freepers all in a tizzy. The war is now justified at a cost of 5 dead and 36 wounded US soldiers ($and $600,000,000) per shell. Yay!"

Leftist turds are not interested in understanding and they are not interested in actually protecting the USA or humanity. Imagine this babbling clown applying his formula to WWII: "oh my, we lost X servicemen killed and Y wounded per captured Nazi V1 and V2 missile..... WHOOPS, guess FDR was wrong, the war wasn't worth it!! It is soooo hard to find an intelligent leftist who can even try to argue in good faith and honesty.
183 posted on 06/21/2006 5:10:48 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: TexKat
Have them read the report again: While agents degrade over time, chemical warfare agents remain hazardous and potentially lethal.
185 posted on 06/21/2006 5:13:02 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: SierraWasp

>>Have you guys seen THIS???


Now I have! WooHoo!!! Thanks for the ping.


186 posted on 06/21/2006 5:18:58 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: gustafmolotov

Hi troll.


187 posted on 06/21/2006 5:22:02 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: OldFriend

It's all over talk radio now including a former Army engineer on Hugh Hewett who was immensely grateful for the declassifications so he can now talk about what he saw in '03.


188 posted on 06/21/2006 5:24:59 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: theophilusscribe

Michael Savage just asked Curt Weldon why it took so long for this information to get out. He surmised that to admit this report would mean US Intelligence would once again have to admit they made another mistake when they said there were no WMD's. The are becoming John Kerry.


189 posted on 06/21/2006 5:25:19 PM PDT by kempster
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To: DoughtyOne

You have a way with words that often makes me smile.


190 posted on 06/21/2006 5:25:53 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I can't wait to see how many legs it is wrapped around.


192 posted on 06/21/2006 5:30:19 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: OldFriend
"My guess is that this was out there in the background and the dems were already planning on saying it was planted or the docs are fake."

I am sure the Demoncrats knew about this, but to them sarin and mustard gas is meaningless. To them we were supposed to find A BIG MASS OF NEUCLEAR BOMBS and since we did not Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction.

193 posted on 06/21/2006 5:30:28 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: COUNTrecount

A lot of Liberals seem to be jumping into this thread.

In my opinion, 500 chemical munitions is A LOT.

No country with any sense loses track of 500 sarin nerve gas shells (especially countries with paranoid dictators that are worried about being assassinated on minute-by-minute basis.)

I believe they found much more than this, but the greatest threat to the US is WMD terrorism. All of the finds will remain hidden until we are reasonably sure we have found virtually all of it.

Since it has come out now, I am assuming we HAVE found virtually all of it. More information will begin to be released in the days and weeks ahead.

But most importantly, the war was never about the WMD that Saddam secretly still had (no matter how much you continue to hear that from the bush lied crowd.)

The war was about stopping terrorists from having access to WMD and stopping untrustworthy dictators from having access to it (and potentially giving it to terrorists.) The war was about permanently changing the face of the world (with Iraq as step one with many other steps having taken place before and after) so that terrorists would not have the chance to use WMD in New York like they used jets in New York.

Someone mentioned the Frontline hit piece on Bush and the warhawks last night. Of course, if you do not understand the true reasons and the true benefits for the war, you are stuck with a Liberal mind and a Liberal mindset that Bush lied. The (many) former CIA analysts and State Department analysts are smart-enough people to understand the true reasons. They are just mouthpieces for the Dems (or they were not as smart as they should have been given that they were in charge of counter-terrorism and in charge of capturing Bin Laden.)


194 posted on 06/21/2006 5:38:12 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: nannaj34
"Did anyone see pbs frontline hit piece on bush admin. last night?..."

Yes, we had to keep up with the lies being told.

195 posted on 06/21/2006 5:41:44 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: COUNTrecount
Wow ... like ... Way to go Rick!

Rush said something was up yesterday. But I never thought Rick would come on and talk about this.

After all th eB.S. I have had to put up with over this MD issue I a really glad to read about this.

196 posted on 06/21/2006 5:41:51 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: topher
"But with PBS, this is your tax dollars at work (sigh!)"

True, but their news hour is sure a heck of a lot better then the fly bye media. I would almost bet they will play Senator Santorums sound bite and talk about it.

197 posted on 06/21/2006 5:50:07 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: RasterMaster
"1.77 Metric Tons of radioactive material" anywhere on the list?

Enriched material, I might add. Link HERE.
198 posted on 06/21/2006 5:54:45 PM PDT by proud_yank (Truth to liberals is as useful as a snowblower in hell.)
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To: GrandEagle

How do you know we sold chemcial weapons to Saddam's Regime? Many countries sold Saddam many things but did the US sold the actual chemical weaponary?

Many chemicals are used in agriculture to help to get rid of pest or used in cleaning products. It's called dual use items. Remember Clinton going after dual use items during the 90's?

I think the US sold Iraq anthrax samples because lifestock needs anthrax vaccinations. We also sold Iraq Botulin toxin because it is used in medience.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulin_toxin


Proof of burden is on Saddam....not on other countries.

http://www.crimesofwar.org/thebook/poisonous-weapons.html

http://cns.miis.edu/research/wmdme/flow/iraq/seed.htm

Common household cleaning products can be lethal if you have large batches of it.
http://community.discovery.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/9701967776/m/594105473


199 posted on 06/21/2006 5:57:58 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: hawkaw
That's right, this was what he was talking about.I had forgotten. I think this is the end of the rope-a-dope maneuver.The Bush admin. let the critics continue all this time, then show the proof election year and make them look like idiots. I knew it!!
200 posted on 06/21/2006 6:00:04 PM PDT by alienken (Bumper sticker idea- We have God in heaven & a Texan in the whitehouse,LIFE IS GOOD!!)
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