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Our Mother Jesus . . . a sermon by US church's new head
London Times ^ | 6/22/06 | staff

Posted on 06/21/2006 5:08:05 PM PDT by pissant

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To: rhema

LOL!! Love that article!! It truly GALLS me to read the stupid new words to glorious old hymns!


81 posted on 06/21/2006 8:14:14 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I don't understand how people can stay connected to a church where they behave this way...

In the Episcopal church (and really, Anglican churches in general), one is smply overall a member of the parish. (I speak from experience.) What happens outside the parish is rarely noted, except on the really rare occasions that it intrudes on parish life with things such as a new, revised prayer book.

One might hear of strange, odd things, such as the first woman bishop (unqualified, no pastoral experience, but she's black & female), but even these don't really intrude on your parish life, they're vague and far away. Things go on as they always have, and the infrequent changes tend to be small. One accomodates them -- there tends to be nothing to drive you away, unless you are looking for it.

Or you encounter a trigger.

As I did, in my first, last and only ECUSA diocesan convention. I saw what reigned outside my parish -- and left.

82 posted on 06/21/2006 8:20:35 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: GAB-1955

I am leaning towards the old Eastern church myself.


83 posted on 06/22/2006 3:44:04 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: SuziQ; pissant; Caleb1411
LOL!! Love that article!! It truly GALLS me to read the stupid new words to glorious old hymns!

The new Lutheran (ELCA, naturally) hymnal is worse, by all accounts.

84 posted on 06/22/2006 5:41:46 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: SuziQ; pissant
. . .and this more recent commentary of the new ELCA hymnal's desecration.
85 posted on 06/22/2006 5:47:26 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: sionnsar

I tend to refer to him as "Druid in Chief."


86 posted on 06/22/2006 6:00:30 AM PDT by kellynch (I am excessively diverted. ~~Jane Austen)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; pissant

<< The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams .... >>

Was selected and appointed by the lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering, [Christian Serbia, eg] vowel-clipping, culturally-communistic, Roman Catholic Church-attending, haplessly-dickheaded "third way," [ie: second-handing] socialist, Mr Anthony Charles Lynton Blair.

'Nough said!


87 posted on 06/22/2006 6:30:09 AM PDT by Brian Allen (All that is required to ensure the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: pissant

She could take over from Helen Thomas as one of the 72 virgins.


88 posted on 06/22/2006 7:32:28 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: sionnsar

Amazingly John Wesley could have told you all about it.


89 posted on 06/22/2006 9:08:04 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: pissant

Much of the presbyterian branch of Christianity in the US has been off the track for at least 30-40 years... all you are seeing now is that they are so institutionalized nowadays they don't even bother trying to pretend anymore.


90 posted on 06/22/2006 9:10:35 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: sionnsar

No they do affect you, because the next batch of Pastors/Ministors you are going to have to interview for your parish are going to be trained and educated by the principles of that far away group has endorced...

That's the problem, you may believe your parish is immune, but its only a matter of time, and by the time these local churches wake up to do anything about it, it's too late.. the inmates are already running the assylum


91 posted on 06/22/2006 9:13:18 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
No they do affect you, because the next batch of Pastors/Ministors you are going to have to interview for your parish are going to be trained and educated by the principles of that far away group has endorced...
That's the problem, you may believe your parish is immune, but its only a matter of time, and by the time these local churches wake up to do anything about it, it's too late.. the inmates are already running the assylum

To those in ECUSA, you are correct.

We have our own seminary, however, and my experience of its graduates (including our present rector) says it is stellar.

92 posted on 06/22/2006 9:55:43 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: stillonaroll

Muchoappreciationmiamego


93 posted on 06/22/2006 2:40:43 PM PDT by Meadow Muffin
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To: Ladysmith

http://www.gbible.org/


94 posted on 07/07/2006 6:48:32 PM PDT by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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