Third Chinese Airforce Plane Crash in a Row this Month(PLAAF traing volume in sharp rise?)

Chosun Ilbo ^ | 06/22/06

[TigerLikesRooster]

/begin my translation

Third  Chinese Airforce Plane Crash in a Row  this Month

The third crash of Chinese airforce planes occurred in this month. 

According to June 22nd issue of Ming-bao in Hong Kong,  around noon, June 21st, an Chinese airforce plane crashed at Jin-jiang, Quan-zhou City, Fujian Province, killing its pilot.

The crash follows  the crash of an KJ-2000 AWACS developed by China on June 3rd at Guang-de County, Anhui Province, killing 40 on board including engineers, and another of Jian-7E fighter plane on June 12th in Fuzhou City, Fujian Province.

China has not revealed the type of the crashed plane or damages at the crash site. 

Considering the recent crashes of the airforce planes (all) occurred in Nanjing Military District, which is confronting Taiwan, this reflects that the training volume of airforce planes in this area has gone up sharply, according to some observers.

Hong Kong = Yonhap News

 

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[TigerLikesRooster]

So why are they so busy training at this time? Is it seasonal or is there some other reason?

[TigerLikesRooster]

Ping!

[Stallone]

The Chinese Commies are learning Islamic warfare, wherein the soldier commits suicide.

The Mainstream Media have been quite helpful in communicating its effectiveness as a brilliant military strategy.

Apparently, it is a very efficient training regimen, as you only need do it once.

A winning plan to be sure, and I encourage them to step up their exercises.

Thanks MSM!

[wildcatf4f3]

probably assembled from Harbor Freight crap

[Gefreiter]

Maybe we have a renegade patrol aircraft, menacing the Chinese airforce.

[LS]

Sounds to me like they need the training. Maybe about 300 more "training" missions and their air force should be just about right.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #5

Must be a Warbird from Romulan Empire, with its cloaking activated.:)

[TonyRo76]

Someone over there flying the "wong wei" again?

[mr_hammer]

Maybe there finding out that there is more to quality assurance programs then meets the eye?

When the print calls out inconel-X, you use inconel-X! You just don't grab a chunk of metal off the shelf that resembles a stainless alloy.

Anyone who has any experience with Chinese manufacturing and their practices knows exactly what I am talking about.

[saalebhosdike]

Ow dale you insull the glate pleopuls lepublic of Chaai-nah?

[Gefreiter]

C'mon TLR...you know perfectly well that Warbirds can't operate in atmosphere...

[Waverunner]

If they've adopted the islamic view, they must be expecting 72 billion virgins to be in heaven.

[BubbaJunebug]

This is not a sharp rise. I am in that area of China at least once a quarter and within 4 miles of that base. Have been going there for the past 8 years.

They fly constantly 24/7/365. It almost seems there is a take off every 4-5 minutes.

It is a training base and because of the location to Taiwan it is their way of letting everyone know that they have a presence.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #13

If this is a sharp rise in flying lemons, flying Chinese warplane should be called "Chinese Roulette" from now on.:)

[TXnMA]

Anyone who has any experience with Chinese manufacturing and their practices knows exactly what I am talking about.

I have that experience -- and you are absolutely right.

[Dick Vomer]

lets see..... if you can only copy somebody's technology but can't develop your own... then if some modifications need to be done, your engineers and technicians wont know where to start. Because they've never gone through the process of development.

From what I understand, jets are kinda complicated. Keeping them up in the air takes some brain power. Especially when putting them in training cycles that require extensive maintenance.

So it's like Hugo Chavez and his really neat "jet fighters"... bwahahahaha.. without tech support, spare parts and know how these jets become really neat "static displays". ... or as I like to call them, "targets".

[Khurkris]

We had an F5F ceash last saturday morning. Haven't been able to find a darn thing about it, The ROCAF grounded all the rest of 'em.

[jiggyboy]

In electronics at least, they dink out the most expensive part then test it again, if it doesn't run they put it back in, if it runs for five minutes they leave it out and dink out the next one...

[jiggyboy]

oops dink = dike, dunno what I was thinking

[freedumb2003]

Early morning there too?

I've asked the mod to fix the title.

[EQAndyBuzz]

Wonder if Karl Roves weather machine was set to "Eliminate Chinese Aircraft."

[Magnum44]

The have a major excercise every year that starts to build up in the spring and culminates in Aug. The US also has a show of force excercise in the area, coincidently at about the same time :)

[Magnum44]

The... = The Chinese...

[TonyRo76]

He heh...

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #20

No, my typing skill is at fault.:) Thanks for alerting the mod.

[sam_paine]

Anyone who has any experience with Chinese manufacturing and their practices knows exactly what I am talking about.

The specified part was shiny. The substituted part was shiny. Very much so. Therefore, component manufacturer's problem. Not system problem.*

* Why do I sound like Tonto Wei?

[herkbird]

I would imagine that China has very few Modern full motion high fidelity flight simulators for each of their aircraft types. The lack of flight simulation means that these aircrews have to do all of their training in the unforgiving confines of the real aircraft. Having spent 25 years as a manager of a flight simulator maintenance team, I can imagine that their pilot's are poorly trained in comparison to the United States Aircrews, who receive extensive simulator training which allows them to practice many extremely dangerous maneuvers over and over again until they have perfected their flying skills in all different kinds of situations.

It is really amazing how advanced the flight simulators have become in the Western World where most of them are manufactured to my knowledge. This one area where I hope the Chinese never overtake our technology. I'm sure they must have some Flight simulation facilities available for their commercial airline sector.

[AppyPappy]

Maybe this is why they have been buying up oil. They are stockpiling for increased use. The crashes are happening because they are increasing flights for training. I bet they are up to something.

[VeniVidiVici]

It's probably just a sharp rise in the reporting of such accidents.

[thinking]

I agree, but why are the ChiComs, reporting these incidents....with a buttoned-up society that they have, why say anything, that would give a negative view of their glorious fighting men...?

[Kenny Bunk]

in re: "wong wei"

Thanks for your interesting slant on this tragic event. However, our clash investigators suspect the aircraft CG changed suddenly during a mandatory fire drill, causing a deviation from the glide slope. However, we have drawn up several lists of possible causes. Choose 1 from column A, or any 2 from column B.

Please to be advised, no ice cream with column B selections.

Lt. Huan Huing Loh
CHICOM AIRFORCE PIO

[VeniVidiVici]

I agree, but why are the ChiComs, reporting these incidents....with a buttoned-up society that they have, why say anything, that would give a negative view of their glorious fighting men...?

Don't know. With Commies past, I'd say it's because one of the legs of the Triad (Party, Security, Army) is brewing a surprise.

With China, who knows?

[mewzilla]

Who's running the flight training? Wrong Way Wang Wei?

[ErnBatavia]

One less hotshot.

[PureTrouble]

Wow this is important. Anyone have news of how many military spy planes the US has lost over the same time period /sarc

Ok ok bad reference

[Kenny Bunk]

I'm sure they must have some Flight simulation facilities available for their commercial airline sector.

I hope so, too. A better question would be, "Are the CHICOM commercial aviation people still handing out surgical tape and magic markers?"

The drill was ya took the tape, wrote your name on it with the marker, and plastered it on your forehead. Made identifying the bodies so much easier, doncha know?

Can't wait until the PLAAF starts carrier training. Film at 11.

[Candor7]

The sky dragons that rise from the water in Spring are contesting the occulancy of the skies over China. The plans need to be painted with Feng Shui panels in all six directions, called Bagua:

Sky Dragon, ready to pounce on improperly feng shui'ed Chinaese Aircraft

[Cheburashka]

Don't hold your breath. The Chinese bought it without engines. Until it can move under its own power it remains the world's largest aircraft carrier theme park.

[PeterFinn]

One less plane for us to have to shoot down some day.

[PsyOp]

Maybe they stop using Wal-Mart as their chief parts supplier...

[MeanWestTexan]

I suspect a software bug, akin to what happened to the russian pipeline.

So sorry! No tickee, no software!