Posted on 06/22/2006 4:50:29 AM PDT by ChrisFelice1
Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum has been making the rounds claiming that the US has in fact discovered banned weapons in Iraq. The claims are based on the continuing sporadic appearance of pre-Gulf War I munitions containing variously disintegrated chemical weapons, and the Pentagon has said that the claims are crap: the munitions in question, mostly artillery rounds, are unusable and have been for years...
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Who is the lady in the second row second picture? Do not recognize her.
Heh, heh ... that's Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, founder of "The Daily Kos" website.
They were so degraded that they were inert...
Sure they were found, but how much of a threat were they really.
Santorum said many more WMD sites had been found, but were still 'classified'. The problem seems to be that the admin. thinks they've moved on, that WMD's was an argument they didn't win, so why revisit it despite the fact that they have proof the weapons were there in numbers. Insane. Why not just hand the keys to the WH and congress to Hill so she can take things away from us that we already have...for the common good.
Markos Moulitsas. LOL!
That's yet another S.F. nutjob, Nancy Pelosi. She's the demorat leader in the House.
What I want to know who the queer next to Murtha is.
They are at war with us, of course they will discredit it. My question to everyone is, how are you supporting the effort on our side?
Oh, it appears to have been answered.
lady??
Thanks for posting those traitors' faces. Turn on the MSM any afternoon and you see them trotting out the lie of the day. It's exactly like watching a wrestling tag-team match, the old rope-a-dope. With republicans silent or chopped off in mid-sentence.
Let's be glad W went in and took care of business so we didn't have to find out!
THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!
Search my posts...you'll see.
dims lied... the TRUTH died!
LLS
Denial: It's not just a river in Egypt anymore.
Sounds more like some Kos-mosexual's blog entry.
lol. I know. I was trying to be nice. I always thought a man started the Daily Kos.
A: Because some of the weapons are still useful for killing and destroying.
As Fred Barnes said on Fox yesterday, the sarin/chemical/biological weapons program could have been up and running again in a matter of days, and used against Iraqis or our troops. Many other sites mentioned as having been found in that document, not just one.
Saddam was supposed to have destroyed all of the WMDs that he had before the Gulf War and he claimed that he did so. This report clearly shows that he lied. Moreover, according to the report, more than 500 of these weapons were found. As Senator Santorum points out, degraded or not the sarin and mustard in these weapons poses a threat. You can read more at this link:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html
2) Much of what is said in this blog is based again on conversation with unnamed "Pentagon" officials, etc. and we are supposed to dismiss this find since the weapons are considered to be "no threat". I've yet to see someone who is arrested with an illegal substance be acquitted because the substance is "no threat".
3) What has been declassified is only a small part of the entire report. We don't know what else is in the report. Why has the left not demanded the immediate declassification of the entire report if they are so sure this is "bogus"? Further, why have they not demanded to know why this is classified in the first place?
4) What we may be seeing is only the hint of a "trump" card being played in a "game" that is much larger than just the finding of WMD in Iraq. The obvious question should be which contries supplied the materials for Saddam to make these weapons and did these same countries help him make post-91 weapons? Methinks we may see both China and Russia show a little more interest in both North Korea and Iran in the next few weeks.
Why aren't the liberals interested in these questions? Cognitive dissonance may prevent them from asking the obvious questions.
May 31, 2004
We still don't know where the sarin shell came from--and whether or not there are more of them out there. "Yet more than a year later, American troops still have not found any weapons of mass destruction (unless a single artillery shell, produced in the 1980s, that possibly contained sarin nerve gas, counts)."Wishful Thinking on Sarin Weekly Standard ^ | June 14, 2004 [Because The Left Forgets] | Michael Goldfarb Posted on 11/15/2005 1:50:33 PM EST by conservativecornerSO SAID Ivo Daalder and James M. Lindsay in the Los Angeles Times, on May 31, 2004. Such statements are fairly typical of the media's disdain for the mere suggestion that significant caches of weapons of mass destruction existed in Iraq at the time of the U.S.-led invasion in March of 2003.
(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")
IMHO, There has to be another stockpile. Santorium shouldn't be pressing this as proof to justify the war.
Not true at all.
Regarding Iraq's VX program, the documents indicate that the Iraqis "finished work on binary that had a long shelf life." Kamal states they were able to stabilize VX: "They were able to do it by splitting VX into binary. Bombs consisted of two parts, and they made it during the last days of the Iran-Iraq war. So the components were only mixed when fired." Link
This moving of the goal posts really pi$$es me off. These are danagerous weapons and proves that Saddam had not destroyed them.
The Left doesn't want the truth...they want THEIR TRUTH...(remember they're moral relativists)
Think about this: Why was Clinton given a pass to bomb Iraq in 1998? He was trying to destroy these SAME weapons and the Left supported it...obviously they were dangerous enough in 1998 to warrant Operation Desert Fox.
Iraq primarily filled 155-mm projectiles [the same caliber as the IED in question] with high purity Mustard that remained stable during long-term storage. However, Iraq also provided some information and documents on the development and tests of 155-mm binary nerve agent (Sarin and Cycolosarin) projectiles. UNSCOM found several examples of these munitions at the Muthanna State Establishment. Iraq stated that, despite positive test results, no industrial-scale production of binary 155-mm projectiles occurred. . . . Iraq has provided a number of explanations regarding the disposition of approximately 550 unaccounted for Mustard filled 155-mm projectiles. UNSCOM, having determined that the Mustard . . . was likely to remain stable for a long period treated this issue as a serious matter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1522544/posts
Great points.
(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")
I think we should wait and see how this plays out, guys.
We've not done ourselves any favours in the past by 'jumping the gun'.
Their central truth is Bush and his supporters are evil and therefore everything he does, (good or bad) is evil.
Also, these items may not be good artillery rounds any more, but the chemicals inside are still lethal. If anyone doubts that, perhaps our government should release what it found by doing lab work on them because surely they did. Our own stockpile has chemical rounds that are much older than these and they're still very deadly.
we should start by asking WHERE these munitions were found, and work from there.
do you see? why didn't Blix find them? why weren't they declared?
Who is the most high profile Democrat who has not said Bush lied?
Bill Clinton.
Why?
Because if he did, then the question has to be raised as to why his administration passed on bogus intelligence through George Tenet to the Bush adminsitration.
Sure they were found, but how much of a threat were they really.
My reply to your "supposition" is the same as I've questioned others who have advanced this line of reasoning.
Then, how about if we store a few of those "inert," "spent" sarin gas shells in your basement, garage, or in your closet?
Waiting for you and others who think same to stand up and accept?
Uh, didn't think so!!!!
I'm with you there, man. why do they hold back the results of the tests? it just gives the Libs an angle.
Recommend all doubting parties personally examine WMD specimens and sample their contents ASAP.
What happened to all the Scud missiles from Desert Storm?
Oh yeah...that's right..."Clinton destroyed all of them...in 1998" LOL
IMHO, the real reason that Bush is shutting up about WMD evidence is to save Putin's government. Bush figures taking the domestic political heat is less troublesome than dealing with the kind of (heavily nuclear armed) fascist dictatorship that might follow Putin's demise in Russia.
I see what you are saying but that just hasn't happened yet, so we don't have a strong enough case to get excited about. i'd hate to see us get buried if these '500 munitions' turn out to just the total of all the rotting degraded munitions found to date.
"Yet more than a year later, American troops still have not found any weapons of mass destruction (unless a single artillery shell, produced in the 1980s, that possibly contained sarin nerve gas, counts)."
Daalder and Lindsay sure do pick their words carefully! Their spinning would be good fodder for a SNL skit.
It's almost too easy to write the script for the two SNL comedians playing Daalder and Lindsay:
"Although Santorum talked of weapons being found in Iraq, he was alluding to the broken Saracen blades that US troops found in the Iraq museum."LOL
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