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Bush has say on Kosovo
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Posted on 06/22/2006 4:56:22 AM PDT by kronos77

BELGRADE -- US President George Bush announced that Vojislav Koštunica will soon make a trip to the US.

Bush also called on Serbian Prime Minister Koštunica to listen to the needs of the Albanian majority in Kosovo. During a roundtable discussion with students in Vienna, Bush said that he will work with Koštunica on confirming the needs of the people of Kosovo, and that America’s politics are also interested in guaranteeing the rights of all minorities.

“We believe that dialogue between Serbia and those who aspire for an independent country in Kosovo need to be ongoing, in such a way that there is a resolution that meets the needs of the majority, and at the same time, enhances minority rights inside Kosovo. To this end, we're working with our European partners to try to just bring a sense of stability and a sense of calm so that a rational solution can be worked out, and so that the people, the Kosovars can realize dreams.” Bush said.

“The ultimate political solution is going to require a buy-in by both sides. And I think the proper role of the United States is to encourage this kind of dialogue. The Prime Minister of Serbia will be coming to the United States shortly and we will work with him to urge him to listen to the needs of the Kosovars, and at the same time, assure him that our policy is to guarantee minority rights.” the US President added.

This is the first time that a trip by Koštunica to the US has been mentioned. Several days ago, US Senator George Vojinović called on Bush to invite Koštunica and Serbian President Boris Tadić to Washington.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichristian; balkans; ihoppy; islamappeasement; islamofascism; kosovo; pancakeboy; serbia; toothlessdhimmi; wrongwar
Balkan Ping!
1 posted on 06/22/2006 4:56:24 AM PDT by kronos77
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To: zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; joan; Banat; ...
"Bush also called on Serbian Prime Minister Koštunica to listen to the needs of the Albanian majority in Kosovo." Sure Georgie boy, right after you listen to the needs of Osama Ben Laden ana Al Qaeda...
2 posted on 06/22/2006 4:59:22 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: kronos77

Kosovo is a case of slow-motion land theft. The place absolutely belongs to Serbia. The only way you correct such a case of theft is to punish the thief and return the stolen property to the victim.


3 posted on 06/22/2006 4:59:44 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: tomzz

Right on!


4 posted on 06/22/2006 5:00:36 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: All
The needs of the Albanian majority in Kosovo: (Prishtina, DTT-NET.COM)- A Kosovo Serb was found dead on Tuesday at his home, sparking anger among some 50 returnees in the central Kosovo town of Klina who warned to leave their homes and go to Serbia because of lack of security. “Yesterday a Kosovo Serb man (68) was found dead in his house in Klinë/Klina. Victim had what appears to be wound consistent with a gunshot,” UN mission (UNMIK) spokesperson Neeraj Singh told reporters on Wednesday. He said that according to police authorities Dragan Popovic who returned in Klina last year from Serbia, was living alone at his home. Autopsy report is awaited and the case is being investigated by Kosovo Police along with International investigators and Forensics experts from the UN police. Klina Serbs have asked for the motives of the murder to be clarified and warned that if Popovic was killed for ethnic motives they would leave their homes. UNMIK and NATO-led international peacekeeping force (KFOR) are trying to convince them to remain in Kosovo, promising an adequate investigation on the murder and more security measures. All Serbs of Klina left the town and the surrounding villages by mid June 1999 as the war ended, fearing from attacks of their neighbours following the killings of near 200 Ethnic Albanians boys and men of the area, killed by Serb forces. Before the war Albanians represented a majority of more than 80 percent of some 55000 inhabitants of the municipality. Around 200 Serb families have returned so far. Kosovo Serbs have been accusing Ethnic Albanians for standing behind the latest attacks but UNMIK officials have refuted their claims calling to avoid early conclusions on the incidents and leaving the matter to the investigations. In response to incidents, Serbs in northern part of Kosovo have cut all their ties with Kosovo institutions and have announced creation of their own security structures. Reuters on Wednesday quoted representatives of Serbs for hiring around 300 former Serbs soldiers to assure the security of local population in Kosovo north. But UNMIK spokesperson said that “there is no evidence of such actions” as so far. Neeraj Singh said that UNMIK has told northern Serb leaders that “any unilateral security measures not within the bounds of law, will be unacceptable.” “There are adequate legal mechanisms in place to ensure participation of communities in organizing their own security and the Kosovo Serbs should use such legal channels to engage constructively, “ with the Kosovo institutions, he said. The latest murder in Klina comes at the same day the UN Security Council members were discussing the security for Serbs and the future of Kosovo.
5 posted on 06/22/2006 5:02:50 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: kronos77

So Bush is in favor of Serbia turning Kosovo over to the Albanian illegal aliens. I'm not surprised.


6 posted on 06/22/2006 5:03:18 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

How does he counts to win next elections? With muslim votes? If he does something like that no Ortodox Christian Serb/Greek/Russian descent will not wote for him...


7 posted on 06/22/2006 5:06:07 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: kronos77
Sure Georgie boy, right after you listen to the needs of Osama Ben Laden ana Al Qaeda...

Couldn't have said it better myself.

8 posted on 06/22/2006 5:17:57 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: kittymyrib

Since this started .. I never got straight .. who's who ... what's a Serb, what's an Albanian, what's a Kosavar and all the other words attributed to this region.


9 posted on 06/22/2006 5:19:01 AM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: kronos77

Wow, just wow. Is the guy off his rocker, or is there some logical explanation? You think we would've learned from this.


10 posted on 06/22/2006 5:20:49 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: kronos77

This has been going on since 1999 and hasn't stopped since.......few if any has been brought to justice.


11 posted on 06/22/2006 5:28:24 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: kronos77

Is reality sinking in yet?


12 posted on 06/22/2006 5:28:28 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: knarf

Serb is a Ortodox Christian. Kosovo is Holy land of Serbs, Albanians are Muslim tribes from Albania, that immigrated to Kosovo from 18th century, but moist of them during nazi occupation in WWII (they were Hitlers allies) and during Communism occupation of Serbia. Kosovo is part of Serbia.
Clinton supported Albanian terrorista and Islamists from 1995-1999 and than he openly attacked Serbia when Serbia crushed Islamistic rebellion on Kosovo. Clinton did that to divert public eye from his croches and Monica Lewinsky. Than after 78 days of destruction of Serbia, the Christian country UN and NATO troops entered Kosovo allowing M<uslims to massacre and athnicaly cleams Christian and Jewwish population.
Bush is now continuing the legacy of uor truly WJ 9BJ) clinton.

Got that right? :)


13 posted on 06/22/2006 5:28:43 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: kronos77

Kostunica?? The men to talk to and then threaten is Ceku, Ramush, Thaci for starters. They are the ones pushing the buttons.


14 posted on 06/22/2006 5:30:14 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: knarf

Here's the way I see it. A Serb's a Serb (from Serbia). An Albanian, as refered to in this article, is someone who hails from Albania, or perhaps more likely in this case, is of Albanian descent living in Kosovo (a part of Serbia), and they are muslims. Kosovo has a majority of Albanians but is Serbian, and is extremely important to Serbia culturally and historically. A Kosovar is someone, Serbian or Albanian, living in Kosovo.

It's kind of like Southern California. Southern California's part of America, with Americans living there, but there's a majority of Mexicans (or Americans who identify with Mexico, and thus really aren't Americans). So, in this example, America would be Serbia, SoCal would be Kosovo, and Mexicans would be Albanians.

That's the way I see it at least. I could very well be wrong ;) I apologize if this came across as patronizing.


15 posted on 06/22/2006 5:31:22 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: MarMema

Yes...but Clinton was the mastermind since Bosnia in the Early 90's and the current administration is carrying it forward instead of putting their foot down on the Albanian insurgents and heirachy to stop the planned violence against the minorities and internationals.


16 posted on 06/22/2006 5:32:13 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: kronos77

Clinton didn't do it because of monica....its' been in the works since Bosnia early 90's. This is a major strategic move way beyond monica.


17 posted on 06/22/2006 5:33:27 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: kronos77
Serb is a good- guy ...
Albanian is a bad-guy ...

Clinton made it possible for the bad guys to kill the good-guys ...

Bush isn't doing anything to stop it.

Right?

Then ... what was Milosovec?

Was he a good guy, locked up to keep the world from knowing the truth?

18 posted on 06/22/2006 5:37:11 AM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: tgambill

I know. But im sad to see Bush continuing his legacy. And America will wonder after that why Serbs will turn to Russia/China for help in UN over Kosovo.


19 posted on 06/22/2006 5:37:23 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

Whoops, looks like I was late.


20 posted on 06/22/2006 5:38:34 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: knarf

Milosevic was first general elections alected president of Serbia after communism, he himself socialist tried to bring begginings of democracy to Serbia, but was stopped only year or so after elected by destruction of Yugoslavia and civill war. He was pressured to support Serbs from Bosnia to defend themselves from Bosnian Muslim agression and he was the first politician to say that kosovo is not Islamic part of the world. Clinton led silent war against him and Serbia from 1992 to 1999 when he openly attacked Serrbia to support Muslims.

milosevic was not good or bad guy, but simply a guy in the office in worst time in history for Balkan Christians after Turkish invasion in 14th century.


21 posted on 06/22/2006 5:41:46 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus
Bush's is consistent in his support of illegal immigration, be it Albanian or Mexican.

Stupid is, as stupid does.

22 posted on 06/22/2006 5:43:26 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (oppose one farce at the border)
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

No you wasn`t. Two indipendant sourcess claiming allm,ost same infromation, that is the way to tel truth :)


23 posted on 06/22/2006 5:44:57 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: kronos77; All

Same infromation on Bush but in different tone:

BUSH ANNOUNCES KOSTUNICA'S VISIT TO WASHINGTION
22.6.2006 12:02 VIENNA, (Tanjug) - US President George Bush has announced in Vienna that Serbian Prime Minister will shortly visit the United States, and said that he will call on him to recognise the needs of the ethnic Albanian majority in Kosovo in return for gurantees of the Serb minority rights, the Voice of America has reported.

In talks with foreign students in the Austrian capital, where he took part in an EU summit, Bush pointed to the importance of the resolution of the Kosovo issue.

He gave no other details about Kostunica's visit to the country.

President Bush pointed to the need that the wish of the majority people in Kosovo be obseved, but also that the rights of minorities be improved, the Washington radio reported.

The US president also said that, as the radio reported, that the United States was intensively cooperating with its European allies so that stability be achieved in the Serbian province.

He also urged the authorities in Belgrade and Pristina that the issue of Kosovo-Metohija be reached by way of dialogue.

Such a solution has to take into consideration the demands of the majority, as well as the the rights of minorities, he told a student from Kosovo, adding that the step-by-step approach should be used in reaching a solution to the Kosovo-Metohija issue.

(end) sc/dz


24 posted on 06/22/2006 5:45:43 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: kronos77; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
Bush also called on Serbian Prime Minister Koštunica to listen to the needs of the Albanian majority in Kosovo. [...] so that the people, the Kosovars can realize dreams."

The dreams of Albanian Muslims in Kosovo we all know - it is Kosovo free of Serbs and Gypsies and of traces of Christianity. In addition they hope for generous welfare package from EU and Serbia and for freedom from police oversight.

25 posted on 06/22/2006 6:02:59 AM PDT by A. Pole (Working three jobs - uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic, oooh yeah, yeah, hehe.)
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To: knarf
what's a Serb, what's an Albanian, what's a Kosavar

There is no such people as "Kosovars". There are Albanian Muslims in Serbian Kosovo who twist the name of this land into KosovA and who got named by the Western media as "Kosovars" to create the illusion that there is such nation so the Serbs and Gypsies have no right to stay there.

26 posted on 06/22/2006 6:21:03 AM PDT by A. Pole (Working three jobs - uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic, oooh yeah, yeah, hehe.)
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To: kronos77

Awwww that's too bad. That does it, Bush won't be re-elected to another term now. Damn. Just damn.


28 posted on 06/22/2006 7:22:15 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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To: A. Pole
You are exactly right. Your description is very accurate. ESPECIALLY the part about no police oversight!!

Albanian muslims/KLA/CLANS are NASTY criminals and they are known to be that ALL over Europe.

I think ANYBODY who supports them is MOST LIKELY A CRIMINAL OF THE WORST KIND.

A certain pinhead poster on this thread and bill clinton/wesley clark comes to mind.

29 posted on 06/22/2006 7:24:35 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: A. Pole

Looks like poor little pinhead cannot take the heat and the TRUTH about himself!!!


30 posted on 06/22/2006 7:26:05 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: Lion in Winter

Please tone it down some

Thanks


31 posted on 06/22/2006 7:31:12 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: kronos77

Yes......this is true.


32 posted on 06/22/2006 7:43:20 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: knarf
In Britain they call them Kosovans sometimes instead of Kosovars and it is ethnic Albanians - a way to make them seem entitled to Kosovo by naming them after it.

Anyhow, to see what the 'Kosovans' are up to in Britain, one of their biggest supporters for independence, I use the term 'Kosovan' in news searches, and lo and behold, check out today's entry:

Refugee rapist sent to prison

A Kosovan refugee from Brentford who raped and nearly smothered a Polish woman to whom he offered a lift, was jailed for seven years and recommended for deportation.

Driton Shkoza, 28, of Town Meadows, Brentford, picked up the 28 year-old woman as she waited at a bus stop outside Ealing Broadway Station in the early hours of March 7 last year.

He left her bleeding, bruised and traumatised in an Osterley car park less than an hour later.

"The defendant said he knew her and she thought he might have been a customer in a caf where she used to work in Wood Green," prosecutor Rosie Burns told an earlier trial at Isleworth Crown Court.

"She told him she was going to her boyfriend's home in Greenford and he offered her a lift which she declined at first.

"Eventually she agreed and they went to his car parked in Windsor Road."

After a while she noticed he was driving in the wrong direction and he drove her to the car park of Osterley Rugby Club where she tried to get away.

Ms Burns said: "He dragged her back in to the car causing injuries to her legs and cuts in her trousers. He blocked her nose and her mouth with his hands causing her difficulty in breathing as he forced her down onto the back seat of the car where he raped her," said Ms Burns.

When he had finished and his victim begged him to let her go, he offered her a lift home.

But she got out of the car and "in an emotional state", and flagged down a motorist who called the police.

When the traumatised victim was examined, Shkoza's DNA was found and eventually it was matched with DNA taken from him over an immigration offence in September.

Shkoza denied raping the woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, and claimed they had sex with her consent. But the jury found him guilty.

Defence counsel, Anthony Dalgleish, said Shkoza came from a difficult Albanian background in Kosovo where members of his family were still missing.

Jailing him, Judge Hezlett Colgan said: "You were convicted on the clearest possible evidence. Rape is always a serious matter and this had aggravating features. You used excessive force to restrain your victim when she tried to escape and you threatened to kill her if she didn't comply."


33 posted on 06/22/2006 7:45:24 AM PDT by joan
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To: Lion in Winter
"Albanian muslims/KLA/CLANS are NASTY criminals and they are known to be that ALL over Europe."

That's right - check out my post before this about a poor Kosovar/Kosovan refugee who raped and tried to smother to death a Polish woman.

34 posted on 06/22/2006 7:47:20 AM PDT by joan
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To: joan
"DIFFICULT BACKGROUND""... Oh,PLEEEEZEEE. THAT sounds like a defense hoplite would give the creep. poor widdle mussie had a bad life . BOO HOO.

HUMMMPH.

35 posted on 06/22/2006 8:09:44 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: joan
We have a refugee unit (hotel PC name) for illegals awaiting classification/deportation whatever in Ashford Kent and one of the Kosovans scams is get a local girl pregnant therefore hoping to get their status made legal after which the girl never sees them again.

The crazy thing is that the kids on the local council estate fall for it I even knew one case where a mother locked her teenage daughter in the apartment and went to work during the school holidays so that one of these Kosovans could not met her. Her mother was terrified her daughter would end up pregnant by him.

For some reason these kids think they are glamorous, romantic gypsy types. I think they look as if they need a good wash.

Not sure what nationality is a the centre at present but they look different more middle east.

36 posted on 06/22/2006 8:15:12 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: snugs
What a mess and they spread crime all over Europe.

In Florida and Georgia there are car thief rings run by ALbanian mobsters and just recently I saw that some of the Albanians involved skipped out on bail.

Bet they are back in Kosovo hiding out.

We have enough home grown crime why are we importing MORE from the Balkans????

Is this a great country or not???

In all my days I never thought I would see a day when AMERICANS had to fear FOREIGN criminals right here in the states.

I am concerned for my grandkids and my GREAT-grand kids.

REAGAN would be shocked I tell you SHOCKED!!

37 posted on 06/22/2006 8:29:18 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: kronos77; All

Make our voices heard to the president.

US policy can be changed especailly in regards to the balkans but we need to be forceful. The Turkish lobbies are actively promoting the birth of this monster kosovo - and we need to be heard loudly.

White House contacts - all here:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/






38 posted on 06/22/2006 8:29:48 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121

Thanks for the info.


39 posted on 06/22/2006 8:59:12 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics arn't religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims! NO FAT ISLAMIC broads!!)
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To: Hoplite
Actually, reality appears to be unattainable for toothless Dhimmi types.
40 posted on 06/22/2006 4:45:36 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: snugs
Whatever you do, do not socialize with them or go anywhere near the places they hang out at. Keep your kids away from theirs and tell your friends to do the same. Those heathens are nothing but trouble. They will con, steal, rob, rape, threaten, maim and kill without hesitation in order to get what they want.

Their mafia is second to none in the world and they've got fronts all over Western Europe and N. America. They specialize in hard drugs and white slavery.

41 posted on 06/22/2006 6:06:18 PM PDT by Banat (DEO • REGI • PATRIĆ: http://www.SAVEKOSOVO.org)
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus; knarf
You got that description pretty close, with one exception:

"A Serb's a Serb (from Serbia)."

The defintion of "a Serb" is a Serbian Orthodox Christian. The can be from Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro or Serbia (including Kosovo)within the former Yugoslavia. Historically, they have always been spread all over the map. The Bosnian Serbs were actually baptized where they stood in Bosnia -- and were never "from Serbia".

But, from the standpoint of descibing only the issue in Kosovo, you are correct. The Serbs are from Serbia, which includes Kosovo.

42 posted on 06/27/2006 1:38:59 PM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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