Skip to comments.2003 UN Report: Iraq Sulfur Mustard Gas Chemical Weapons Have High Quality After 12 years of Storage
Posted on 06/22/2006 11:38:34 AM PDT by jveritas
Since the story broke yesterday about finding 500 Shells of Chemical Weapons in Iraq, shells that contain Sulfur Mustard Gas or Sarin Gas, the Left and their media were quick to dismiss this extremely important find by using the lame excuse that these Chemical weapons Shells were produced before 1991 and hence its not effective anymore because it has much lower quality. However in March 2003 UN report about Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction there is the following on page 77 (Page 79 of the pdf file), paragraph 1 of the report http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/6mar.pdf :
The Sulfur Mustard contained in artillery shells that had been stored for over 12 years, had been found by UNMOVIC to be still of high purity. It is possible that viable filled artillery shells and aerial bombs still remain in Iraq.
The above form the United Nations inspectors and the darling of the Left Hans Blix totally destroy the stupid lies that the Left and their media has been spewing since the breakings new of yesterday. First the UN clearly state in March 2003 that the Mustard gas shells they found are of HIGH QUALITY even it had been STORED FOR OVER 12 YEARS. Second the UN admit that there may still VIABLE i.e. EFFECTIVE Mustrad filled artillery shell hidden in Iraq, and yesterday we learned for a fact that there were indeed 500 Mustard gas artillery shells that were found in Iraq since the removal of Saddam. Also it is safe to conclude that the Mustard Gas shells found after the war are still in high quality and highly effective Chemical weapons.
Another very important fact to add is that Saddam had LIED to the UN inspectors and the world when he said that he had destroyed ALL his Chemical Weapons and other WMD. It does not matter whether these weapons were produced before or after 1991, his job was to destroy it ALL and not hide anything not a one ounce of these WMD, he DID NOT.
If it is in binary form, it isn't sarin yet.
Come on, he never uses so few words. Give us the rest of the story.
Here in the comments section. I've read these same things other places too.
It's common knowledge that when the MSM uses anonymous sources it's making up the information.
DoD unnammed official = BULL$#!T
I do not think the unnamed DOD official voted for President Bush
Why would a "DOD official" be afraid to have his/her name out there if they where TRUELY trying to educate the American people?
This "official" is more then likely the newspapers editor.
"The round was an old "binary-type" shell in which two chemicals held in separate sections are mixed after firing to produce sarin, Kimmitt said. He said he believed that insurgents who rigged the artillery shell as a bomb didn't know it contained the nerve agent, and that the dispersal of the nerve agent from such a rigged device was very limited. The shell had no markings. It appears the binary sarin agents didn't mix, which is why there weren't serious injuries from the initial explosion, a U.S. official told Fox News."
Cheney interview on CNN coming up...on the Situation Room.
Basically, that is all he said.
Also I am not sure that the Sunni malcontents i.e. terrorist insurgents know where these Chemical Weapon shells are located.
He and his henchmen hid them so well, they were hard to find.
Iraq did have binary shells. See:
I'm loving' this.
The Left biggest lie that Bush Lied has been badly exposed yesterday, of course we expect such a behavior from Alan Colmes.
Because the DOD official was lying.
Perhaps dinasour can get this to Tony Snow. He has got to talk to th president about getting this out. The lame stream media is already downplaying the importance of this.
JV likely has it right. The source was contacted and the report filed by FOX:
Offering the official administration response to FOX News, a senior Defense Department official pointed out that the chemical weapons were not in useable conditions.
Likely a left-over Clintonoid who should have been fired five years ago.
Thank you! You are a treasure.
I heard that some "unnamed" intelligence official wants to eat some to prove these weapons were too degraded to be effective.
I am in Lima now, and NOT ONE news channel, in English...BBC,CNN...has reported this. Me and my friends are searching the channels to see the story...y nada.
Thank you very much.
Done...with great Pleasure. Hope that you do the same
Off topic, but, ....
Anything sent to Brit Hume today should include a "Happy Birthday".
Today is his birthday.
Another great find JV. You sure are kicking some lefty tail.
And more unstable.
Thanks LTGM. The Left needs to be kicked and kicked hard.
You would think that the Media/Libs would have learned about thier "unnamed Sources by now, wouldn't you??
I am UTTERLY AMAZED that the Media is literally REFUSING to cover this!!
Am I the ONLY person alive that sees this for what it is?
I'll third that!
RaceBannon - I haven't seen you post in a while now. Not surprised this isn't being reported overseas. It's hardly being reported here, even on FNC today.
To my knowledge, none of the networks have mentioned it and neither has CNN.
I think this is an example of why we should never assume someone is an expert simply because they are brave or foolish enough to open their mouth and make a conclusive statement about something. The continued emphasis in the media on the assumed fact that these chemical weapons were too old to be useful bothered me because of the hair splitting nature of the statement but now that the UN (of all places) has helped cast doubt on how useless or degraded these weapons could be it becomes clear that some deprogramming is in order because I like so many had sat silently an accepted the distasteful meal served up by the media. I think that the whole WMD coverup in the media will come unraveled eventually. We know that large numbers of drums of "pesticides" were found as well as the raw materials one step away from being combined into deadly chemical weapons.
Interesting preware look at WMDs in Iraq:
I found this little story:
WWI shells force evacuation of Vimy
Last Updated Sat Apr 14 12:23:06 2001
VIMY, FRANCE - Thousands of people have fled the area surrounding an unexploded weapons stockpile near Vimy, France.
Neighbouring Vimy Ridge was the site of a historic Canadian victory during the First World War. French newspapers at the time hailed the breakthrough as 'The Easter Surprise.' Now the shells used in the battle have brought another Easter surprise - 84 years later.
Evacuating a nearby hospital
An endless flow of fluorescent red rescue vehicles broke the calm in Vimy. Police knocked on all doors in a three kilometre radius around a stockpile of 170 tons of unexploded ordnance.
Most of it contains lethal mustard gas, now an illegal weapon in war.
Excellent, hasnt our troops found barrels and barrels of chemical precursors? If I remember correctly, these findings were deemed insignificant by the MSM and others since they werent "WMDs". However they could have been vital ingredients to create WMDs. Oh yeah, a lot was found buried or in Iraq bunkers, so why wrre they hiding them in the first place??
This isn't the first time. The media is often a megaphone of their own ignorance.
Exactly. Most of the chemical weapons were duel use.
Great point. How many things have went around in the media concerning this war that were already proven false, but never recognized in the media? This is how they maniplate the masses, then take polls.
The point is that can these still kill a lot of people? Reference: Kurds.
Are they banned under UN resolutions?
Didnt Iraq have the responsiilty to hand them over?
The left claim its 12 years ago, like we should shrug it off and its irrelevant. They worry more about depleted uranium in Iraq! What a joke! Yeah, like I will ever trust them with national security.
The New York Times reported ten days before the invasion that UN weapons inspectors in Iraq had discovered a new variety of rocket seemingly configured to strew bomblets filled with chemical or biological agents over large areas.1 The weapon was discovered after the UN inspectors returned to Iraq in November.
At first, Iraq told the inspectors that it was designed as a conventional cluster bomb, which would scatter explosive sub-munitions over its target, and not as a chemical weapon. A few days later, the Iraqis conceded that some of the weapons might have been configured as chemical weapons.
But it remains unclear, according to the UNMOVIC report, whether the Iraqi cluster warhead is a newly-developed one, devised during the absence of inspectors over the past four years, or whether its existence had been kept secret before 1998, when the inspectors left.2
In addition, the situation regarding anthrax stocks also remained unresolved.Despite receiving an updated report from Baghdad just before the war in Iraq began, UN inspectors continued to doubt that Iraq had destroyed all of its anthrax stores. In the report, Iraq tried to account for the destruction of 3,400 liters of anthrax agent at al-Hakam. A translation of the report from Arabic was completed recently and UNMOVIC experts have since reviewed the report.3
Citing data collected from soil samples, Iraq claimed it used a sufficient quantity of potassium manganate to neutralize all the anthrax at its al-Hakam facility. UNMOVIC spokesman Ewen Buchanan said commission experts were skeptical that the Iraqi report completely documented anthrax destruction activities.4
Even if the document were true, he said, Iraq had still not fully accounted for the remainder of the 8,445 liters of anthrax agent it had declared that it produced at two facilities and destroyed. Iraq previously had declared that some of the material had been loaded into aerial bombs and missile warheads.5
Three days before the war started, the Washington Post reported that despite US administration claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, US intelligence agencies had been unable to give Congress or the Pentagon specific information about the amounts of banned weapons or where they were hidden.6
Whether or not US or UK forces find chemical or biological weapons in Iraq over the next weeks or months, the data previously collected by UNMOVIC will be useful in a longer-term clarification of the situation."
What US inspectors are looking for:
80 tones of mustard gas unaccounted for by Iraq weaponized VX nerve agent-- UN says Iraq may have retained this stocks of tabun, sarin, cyclosarin-- UN disputes Iraqs declaration on this
10,000 litres of anthrax-- strong presumption that this still exists according to the UN
3-11,000 litres of botulinum toxin--UN says Iraq failed to disprove figures of previous inspectors
Up to 5,600 litres of clostridium perfringens-- UN says Iraq failed to disprove figures of previous inspectors
86 Samoud 2 missiles which fly more than the permitted range of 150 km-- Out of 120 listed by UN, 34 have been destroyed
Scud and al-Hussein missiles system, plus 50 Scud-B warheads,-- UN says this suggests they may have been retained for proscribed missile force
Munitions: R-400 bombs, which can deliver chemical and biological weapons--(no comment from the UN on what's become of these).
Signs and indications, but no smoking gun
Despite frequent media reports that coalition military forces are finding signs and indications of chemical and biological weapons, usually turning out to be unspecified documents and possible dual-use equipment, to date no chemical, biological or nuclear weapons have been found.
Substantive evidence of a smoking gun remains as elusive as ever.
As the coalition forces advanced increasing effort was devoted to locating CB weapons, but to no effect.
For example, an entire artillery brigade, typically comprising 3,000-5,000 soldiers, was retrained to secure and examine sites suspected of holding banned weapons. And the Pentagon offered rewards of up to $200,000 for help in finding Iraqi leaders or chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.14
Yes and as for the chemical weapons being harmless it was only back in 2001 that WWI chemical weapons caused a town to be evacuated in Vimy France. WWI ended Nov 11, 1918 and those munitions were still dangerous 83 years later.
I am more concerned about the Sarin rounds. I don't know exactly which type the Sarin rounds in Iraq are, but the American 155-mm Sarin (GB) projectiles each contain 6.5 pounds of Sarin. This is approximately 30,000 lethal percutaneous doses. If the GB Projos made it to the black market, those terrorists would never consider lauching the thing, they would drain the Agent out and use it at the Superbowl, or the NYC Subway system. The media is focused on the fact that the Iraqi artillery rounds are not in firing condition, but that is completely beside the point.
He's out to lunch at Burger King (if the money Saddam gave him for being one of his shills lasted that long, that is).
Let the lefties test these chemicals, under supervision.