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Ninth Circuit Decides: The Mt. Soledad Cross Will Come Down, "Memorial Would Be Desecrated"
Thomas Moore Law Center ^ | June 22, 2006 | TMLC

Posted on 06/22/2006 1:44:05 PM PDT by RDTF

ANN ARBOR, MI – A three–judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has refused to stay Federal District Judge Gordon Thompson’s order to remove the Mt. Soledad Cross pending an appeal. Thus, the City of San Diego must remove the Cross by August 1, 2006, or face fines of $5,000 per day thereafter. In its decision, however, the Ninth Circuit scheduled oral arguments on the matter for the week of October 16, 2006, weeks after the Cross is to be removed. The 43- foot Cross was erected in 1954 and currently is the centerpiece of a national memorial honoring American veterans of all wars. The Thomas More Law Center, a national public interest law firm based in Ann Arbor, Michigan, has been fighting to save the Cross since 2004 when it received information that the private memorial association operating the memorial site and the City were about to agree to settle the case, which had been on going for 15 years, by removing the Cross.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: antitheist; blackrobedthugs; christophobia; churchandstate; cross; firstamendment; godless; jesushaters; judicialactivism; judicialtyranny; judiciary; mtsoledad; purge; seculartaliban; waronjesus; wog
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unbelievable
1 posted on 06/22/2006 1:44:07 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: RDTF

Where do we send donations to fund their $5,000 a day bill?
:)


2 posted on 06/22/2006 1:46:17 PM PDT by weegee
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To: RDTF

Take it to the Supremes. Better chance there than with the 9th Circus...


3 posted on 06/22/2006 1:46:20 PM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: RDTF

Put the judges under the cross as they drop it.


4 posted on 06/22/2006 1:48:22 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: RDTF

They should sell the mountain to a private organization.

Like a church.


5 posted on 06/22/2006 1:48:40 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: RDTF

And yet the crescent "memorial" commemorating the 9-11 attacks continues.


6 posted on 06/22/2006 1:48:49 PM PDT by weegee
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To: RDTF

Why couldn't, years ago, they have given the plot of land to someone for a $1 per year on the condition that no improvements be made upon it?


7 posted on 06/22/2006 1:49:23 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: RDTF

Two questions:

How do judges levy taxes like this,
and how do they collect them?


8 posted on 06/22/2006 1:49:25 PM PDT by dangus
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To: RDTF

The Nutty Ninth strikes again


9 posted on 06/22/2006 1:50:03 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

That's the really sick thing about it: It IS private!


10 posted on 06/22/2006 1:50:28 PM PDT by dangus
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To: bmwcyle
The judges and atheists are hoping for this type of photo op:

Will they beat it with their shoes?

11 posted on 06/22/2006 1:50:49 PM PDT by weegee
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To: RDTF

The liberal 9th Circuit court strikes again!


12 posted on 06/22/2006 1:53:06 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: RDTF
In its decision, however, the Ninth Circuit scheduled oral arguments on the matter for the week of October 16, 2006, weeks after the Cross is to be removed.

Should I infer from this that that would be an en banc hearing? If so, shouldn't they have stayed the lower court's order until the entire 9th has ruled? I'm not understanding what's gone on here.

13 posted on 06/22/2006 1:53:43 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: RDTF

What's more unbelievable:

>> Despite the fact that the ballot proposal passed by an astonishing 76% of the vote, State Court Judge Patricia Cowett ruled that Proposition A violated the California constitution. Her order is being appealed as well. <<

A Constitutional amendment is unconstitutional because the proposed constitution is different from the original. Duh, that's why we are changing it. If, however, the propsed constitution were not so different, however, courts would, and have, strike down the amendment for having no effect.


14 posted on 06/22/2006 1:54:27 PM PDT by dangus
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To: RDTF

Sounds like a win for the Godless.


15 posted on 06/22/2006 1:54:43 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: John Jorsett

I think a 3 judge panel ruled on it. I think the next step will be the entire 9th Circuit court


16 posted on 06/22/2006 1:55:22 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: wolfcreek

This case seems headed for The Roberts' Court.


17 posted on 06/22/2006 1:55:59 PM PDT by sono ("May the Wings of Liberty never lose a feather." Jack Burton)
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To: RDTF

It's the 9th Circus. Hopefully, the Supremes will slap them down pretty quickly.


18 posted on 06/22/2006 1:55:59 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
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To: RDTF

Oh, I see, this is viewed as "Congress making a law, establishing a religion".

Just how stupid do you have to be to make that leap?


20 posted on 06/22/2006 1:57:20 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: G Larry

That cross wont come down. Believe me my Christian soldiers.


21 posted on 06/22/2006 1:58:37 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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To: weegee
Where do we send donations to fund their $5,000 a day bill?

I was just thinking that...I'd be glad to contribute to a $5000/day bill to keep the cross there.

22 posted on 06/22/2006 1:59:42 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("These are not dark days, these are great days." W. S. Churchill)
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To: dangus

It's private land? I thought the city owned it.


23 posted on 06/22/2006 2:00:09 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: RDTF

The Ninth circuit should be drawn and quartered.

There should be thousand stading in line forming a no violent protest the day its scheduled to come down.
Effigies of the ACLU should be burned.


24 posted on 06/22/2006 2:01:04 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: RDTF

...and the libs can't figure out why they keep losing elections.


25 posted on 06/22/2006 2:01:36 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: MeanWestTexan
"They should sell the mountain to a private organization. Like a church."

I believe that's been tried, and it's been blocked. I don't know the details, but there have been a number of attempts at a "workaround," but all have been blocked.

Someone really, really, wants that cross removed.

26 posted on 06/22/2006 2:02:06 PM PDT by Mugwump (Mohammed -- The L. Ron Hubbard of the 7th Century)
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To: el_texicano
Take it to the Supremes.,/i>

How much faith in them do you have that they'd rule to leave it be?

27 posted on 06/22/2006 2:02:31 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,406+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: RDTF

The people in this country are just going to have to start totally disobeying these stupid judges orders. Let em push the 5k a day and then try to collect!

I don't believe the judiciary was meant to be the end all for legislation. We are being ruled by the personal beliefs of judges. All rulings like this should be disobeyed.


28 posted on 06/22/2006 2:03:04 PM PDT by sheana
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To: MeanWestTexan

The city tried to sell the land to a private group but the courts shot that downing saying that the sale demonstrated government preference for religion.


29 posted on 06/22/2006 2:03:27 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: jasoncann

"reminds me of the taliban destroying the statues they didn't believe in.."

Could not have said it better.


30 posted on 06/22/2006 2:03:51 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: RDTF

In other news The City of San Diego, San Francisco, Santa Cruz, San Luis Obisbo, San Jose, Santa Monica, et al will soon be changing their names.


31 posted on 06/22/2006 2:04:32 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: The Blitherer

It'd really stick in their craw.


32 posted on 06/22/2006 2:09:08 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Mugwump

I am beginning to think liberals are vampires.

(Since they are repelled by the sign of the cross and all.)

Maybe we should start putting up mirrors and planting garlic to see if that works, too.

Or maybe ghouls, since they like dead, unbaptised, babies, too.


33 posted on 06/22/2006 2:09:39 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: JRochelle
BUMP
34 posted on 06/22/2006 2:10:40 PM PDT by weegee
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To: MeanWestTexan

Well now they want to cannibalize those dead babies for "tissue". If is non-viable, then why are they trying to use it?


35 posted on 06/22/2006 2:12:00 PM PDT by weegee
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To: RDTF

I seem to recall that 2/3 of the 9th Circus' rulings are overturned. Certainly hope this is one of them, and before they can actually force the cross down.


36 posted on 06/22/2006 2:13:06 PM PDT by American Quilter (Equal laws protecting equal rights...the best guarantee of loyalty and love of country. -- Madison)
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To: weegee

Hence the ghoul refernce.

(In myth, ghouls lived off the flesh of the dead, and particularlly preferred the flesh of unbaptised infants.)


37 posted on 06/22/2006 2:13:20 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: MeanWestTexan
"I am beginning to think liberals are vampires. "

Yep. Sucking the money right out of our wallets to fund their religion, I've been saying left-liberalism is a religion for years. The Cross is competition.

38 posted on 06/22/2006 2:14:03 PM PDT by Mugwump (Mohammed -- The L. Ron Hubbard of the 7th Century)
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To: G Larry

If a memorial cannot have a cross, then how can a national cemetary have any crosses?

And there are those who oppose the drunk driver crosses the dot the roads.


39 posted on 06/22/2006 2:14:39 PM PDT by weegee
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To: RDTF
I guess the 12th century Buddha statues wouldn't have stood a chance with the 9th Circus, either.
40 posted on 06/22/2006 2:16:27 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("So to hell with that twerp at the [WaPo]. I've got no time for him on a day like this." Mark Steyn)
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To: Mugwump
Someone really, really, wants that cross removed.

Could it be....

SATAN??!!!

41 posted on 06/22/2006 2:17:23 PM PDT by Argus
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To: MeanWestTexan

I thought ghouls dug up corpses.


42 posted on 06/22/2006 2:18:29 PM PDT by weegee (If fetal tissue is non-viable, then why are they trying to use it to stimulate cell production?)
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To: MeanWestTexan

"They should sell the mountain to a private organization."

They tried that and were stopped by the black robed tyrants of the anti-American left.


43 posted on 06/22/2006 2:20:40 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: Argus

BINGO!


44 posted on 06/22/2006 2:20:51 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Actions have consequences.")
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To: samadams2000

Good to hear that. I imagine the next step for these irreligist fascists would be to ban religious headstones in government-owned cemeteries: can't offend people with religious symbols, can we? Censor Arlington, censor Normandy, and censor the local cemeteries where your folks are buried. Mustn't make people feel bad.


45 posted on 06/22/2006 2:22:47 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: weegee

All those crosses at Arlington Cemetery...


46 posted on 06/22/2006 2:22:50 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: sgtbono2002

No, that is barbaric. They should be crucified on the cross. ;-)

Of course, I mean effigies of the Ninth court justices. This would be fitting.


47 posted on 06/22/2006 2:22:53 PM PDT by daviscupper
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To: MeanWestTexan

"I am beginning to think liberals are vampires."

Not really they are the offspring of Hitler and Stalin.


48 posted on 06/22/2006 2:24:09 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: weegee

For the same reason, robbers rob banks --- that's where the bodies are.


49 posted on 06/22/2006 2:24:40 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: el_texicano
Take it to the Supremes.

I believe the Supreme Court already (in 2003) denied review. As far as I know, all legal remedies have been exhausted, other than the Hail-Mary-pass "eminent domain" strategy the Thomas Moore people are suggesting here.

50 posted on 06/22/2006 2:24:43 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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