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Chafee Watch [switch to Independent next week?]
National Review's the Corner ^ | 6/22/06 | John J. Miller

Posted on 06/22/2006 2:46:39 PM PDT by Gothmog

Next week is a big one for Senator Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island: He must decide whether he's going to run for re-election as a Republican or as an independent. The deadline is 4 pm on Wednesday — almost exactly a week from right now. If Chafee doesn't believe he can win the GOP primary against challenger Steven Laffey, he may decide to forgo the whole thing and create a three-way race between himself, Laffey, and presumptive Democratic nominee Sheldon Whitehouse. This would create an interesting dilemma for Elizabeth Dole and the NRSC, which has already pumped a lot of cash into Chafee's re-election: Would they still support a guy who doesn't want to compete for their own party's nod?Under Rhode Island law, Chafee wouldn't actually have to drop his formal Republican affiliation: He could still say that he's a member of the party, but that he's not seeking its nomination. This may not pass the smell test, but since when has Chafee ever been required by Washington's GOP establishment to pass the smell test?


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006elections; chafee; lincolnchafee; rino; rinowatch
Sounds speculative, but it may be worth keeping an eye out for next week
1 posted on 06/22/2006 2:46:43 PM PDT by Gothmog
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To: Bahbah; Mo1

Ping


2 posted on 06/22/2006 2:48:23 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Gothmog

Interesting. I had no idea Laffey was doing so well. If he wasn't there would be no speculation.


3 posted on 06/22/2006 2:49:11 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Gothmog
He's as good as a democRAT anyway. No true conservatives in that neck of the woods anyway.
4 posted on 06/22/2006 2:49:47 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: dynachrome

Now he's that really vacant stupid one right?


5 posted on 06/22/2006 2:49:55 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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To: Gothmog

Since Chaffee rode point for the crowd looking for a quick way out of Iraq...

If I were Dole, I would ask for the money back...saying he STOLE those funds by pretending to be a Republican.

Or...just cut their loses...and get more funds..and possibly Pres. Bush to endorse Laffey.


6 posted on 06/22/2006 2:49:57 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Gothmog
This would create an interesting dilemma for Elizabeth Dole and the NRSC, which has already pumped a lot of cash into Chafee's re-election

which is exactly why the NRSC will never see another dime of my money. I'LL DECIDE where my hard-earned dollars will go.

7 posted on 06/22/2006 2:51:06 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("So to hell with that twerp at the [WaPo]. I've got no time for him on a day like this." Mark Steyn)
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To: 12th_Monkey

RI is just a province of MA.


8 posted on 06/22/2006 2:51:51 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: Gothmog

Chafee is the reason I did not contribute to the NRSC this year... I'm targeting all my donations to specific candidates... and Steve Laffey is one of them.


9 posted on 06/22/2006 2:52:09 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: samadams2000

I believe Chaffee voted for either Kerry's cut and run bill or the other one (forgot who sponsored it)


10 posted on 06/22/2006 2:52:21 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Txsleuth
This would create an interesting dilemma for Elizabeth Dole and the NRSC, which has already pumped a lot of cash into Chafee's re-election

I do not like what Elizabeth Dole has done at the NRSC.

11 posted on 06/22/2006 2:52:43 PM PDT by Bahbah (Democrat Motto: Why not the worst)
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To: dynachrome

"He chose poorly."


12 posted on 06/22/2006 2:55:46 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

Too bad he didn't share the same consequence for that as the guy in the movie.


13 posted on 06/22/2006 3:03:06 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: dynachrome

Leapin' Linc Chafee Dish voted for the cut-and-jog resolution. Russ el-Slimeroad and Ketchup Boy couldn't even get a majority of the DemonRATs to vote for their retreat-and-defeat one.


14 posted on 06/22/2006 3:05:34 PM PDT by steveegg (If the illegals would turn Mexico Red if they were forced there, why wouldn't they do that here?)
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To: Gothmog

It would make very little sense for Chafee to run as an Independent. There is no chance he could win as an Independent if he cannot win the GOP primary in the first place. The Democrats planning to vote for Whitehouse will stick with Whitehouse regardless and he's already polling in the low 40s. Any Republicans who would vote Laffey in the GOP primary certainly aren't gonna suddenly 'see the light' and vote for Chafee as an Independent over Laffey as the Republican nominee. That would be absurd. So, it's just stupid IMO for Chafee to think he'd be better off running as an Independent. No way.


15 posted on 06/22/2006 3:10:27 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: Gothmog

I hope he switches to independent. He and the Democrat will split the liberal vote and the Republican will get all the conservative votes. We may end up with a real Republican as a senator!


16 posted on 06/22/2006 3:11:17 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: Gothmog

It's unfortunate that Chafee isn't man enough to join up with the communists.


17 posted on 06/22/2006 3:12:12 PM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: Gothmog

Isn't Chaffee leading that race easily?


18 posted on 06/22/2006 3:12:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: dynachrome

He was one of the 39 that voted for Levin's "no fixed timetable" bill--I believe the only (alleged) Republican to do so. Jumpin' Jim Jeffords voted for it as well.

Liddy Dole, are you listening? He backstabbed your President, he broke ranks with your party. Are you still going to give him your time and money? I wouldn't.

}:-)4


19 posted on 06/22/2006 3:12:48 PM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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To: Reactionary

Chaffee/Sanders '08


20 posted on 06/22/2006 3:13:11 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Moose4

"voted for Levin's"
Thanks.








21 posted on 06/22/2006 3:14:34 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Gothmog

Lame. If he does this he'd be a sore loser, and only reaffirm the corruptive influence political power has on many of our country's leaders.

Hey, I didn't make the two party system, and I didn't make the rules, but it's just bad sport to say that after all these terms serving his party and his state that, when the time comes that the members of the party lean towards not re-electing him that he would run as an independent and ensure that the seat goes to the opposition. Bad sportsmanship.


22 posted on 06/22/2006 3:18:33 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: lesser_satan
He may suffer the political equivalent.

I can tolerate a lot of crap if a guy votes to organize the Senate Republican, because that gives us the committee chairs and majorities as well as Majority Leader, but as Hugh Hewitt says, the guy's got to get at least one of the big issues right, which Chafee hasn't. And his war vote this week was just another stick in the eye of R.I. pubbies.

I think the guy's toast. Who would vote for him as an Indy??? Not the Dems, who desperately want the Senate. Certainly not pubbies, if he's not even gonna vote for a pubbie Senate anymore.

23 posted on 06/22/2006 3:20:03 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Gothmog

After his vote today he might as well switch over to the Dem's.


24 posted on 06/22/2006 3:20:50 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: Txsleuth

Might be a good trade off to take Lieberman for Chaffee.


25 posted on 06/22/2006 3:21:41 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: NonValueAdded
BINGO~!!
I stopped making contributions to the GOP general fund in about 2002. Today, I send my $$$ to exactly the Candidate I support. My last contribution was to Rick Santorum. I hate allowing the powers that be, like Mrs Dole, decide who gets the cash. Anyway, long story long. I agree with you.
26 posted on 06/22/2006 3:24:10 PM PDT by Cindy_Cin
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To: So Cal Rocket

I give money to the Club for Growth, which is a lot closer to what the RNC should be than the RNC is.


27 posted on 06/22/2006 3:25:37 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: colorado tanker

"Blue...no...aaaaagh!"


28 posted on 06/22/2006 3:47:49 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Islamic Terrorists, the Mainstream Media and the Democrat Party Have the Same Goals in Iraq.)
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To: Cindy_Cin

Mrs Dole is only interested in the DC social life and fund raising parties. She doesn't have a clue about how the grassroots conservatives feel.


29 posted on 06/22/2006 3:54:11 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: Bahbah
I do not like what Elizabeth Dole has done at the NRSC.
30 posted on 06/22/2006 3:55:13 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: NewHampshireDuo

LOL. Yeah, that too.


31 posted on 06/22/2006 3:57:12 PM PDT by Bahbah (Democrat Motto: Why not the worst)
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To: Gothmog

Chafee the Republican [John J. Miller]

Brian Nick of the NRSC, in a phone conversation a minute ago: "There is no possibility that Chafee will run as an independent." We'll know for sure by next Wednesday afternoon.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/


32 posted on 06/22/2006 3:58:51 PM PDT by Republican Red (Everyone is super stoked on Gore. Even if they don't know it)
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To: Gothmog
Chafee spokesman Ian Lang has denied this twice in two days, I personally don't see him jumping. That being said, Chafee's wife spearheaded a campaign to convince Democrats to switch party affiliations in order to vote in the Republican party in a desperate to safe the hide of her wet noodle hubby. Apparently it was a success, as of the deadline 14,000 Democrats had switched their affiliation to Republican. Should be interesting.
33 posted on 06/22/2006 4:18:27 PM PDT by got_moab? (got_moab? now comes complete with 50% MORE Hyper-conservatism!!)
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To: got_moab?

Chafee knows he's toast if he had to get his wife to do that.


34 posted on 06/22/2006 4:46:27 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: rrrod

Liz Dole is your typical RNC Rockefeller country clubber I wouldn't vote for her for dogcatcher.


35 posted on 06/22/2006 4:58:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Gothmog

Chaffee should just cut the BS and do what he really wants to do...join the Democrat party. He's no Conservative and is so far left of Joe Lieberman that Lieberman would need a telescope to see him.


36 posted on 06/22/2006 5:00:14 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ( ¸.·´¯) Gone fishin')
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To: johnny7
"RI is just a province of MA."

Johnny7,

That's harsh, just plane harsh. ;)
37 posted on 06/22/2006 5:04:02 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Chaffee should just cut the BS and do what he really wants to do...join the Democrat party.

He will join the Donks... but only when it is advantageous to him to do so... If he gets re-elected and the Senate is a 50-50 GOP/Donk split, he will change parties... Or in 2008, if the Donk's take back the White House and the Senate is 51-49 GOP/Donk, he will change parties. He's an opportunist, just like Jim Jeffords... the only reason there is an (R) next to his name right now, is that the R's are the party in power in the Senate.

38 posted on 06/22/2006 6:46:08 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: Gothmog

If Chafee is smart, he'll come up with an excuse to not run at all. Otherwise, I have a sneaky feeling he's going down and we'll enjoy the hell out of the payback.

On another note, I wish Lieberman would pick this time to switch to the GOP.


39 posted on 06/22/2006 6:50:30 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: Nuc1

Not harsh enough... if I may be so bold. ;)


40 posted on 06/23/2006 4:08:11 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: AntiGuv

The Rode Island Senate race is becoming like the CT Senate race. Incumbent Senators being seriously challenged by the "Red Meat Eaters" of the parties. If the incumbent Senators switch to Independents, those Senate races become tossups for all parties involved.


41 posted on 06/23/2006 1:01:11 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Kuksool

If Lieberman runs as an Independent I think that'll be a pure Toss Up, but if Chafee runs as an Independent I think that'll be Likely Dem. I just don't see how Chafee gets the math to work out as an Independent if he cannot win the GOP primary. In Lieberman's case, he'd get a lot of GOP votes, but for Chafee I don't see why any Dems who are now planning to vote for Whitehouse would switch to Chafee just because he ran as an Independent, and certainly no Laffey voters would switch to Chafee for that reason.

If Chafee cannot get a majority of the GOP leaning vote and also cannot get a majority of the Dem leaning vote then I see no way he can win as an Independent. The math just doesn't work out.


42 posted on 06/23/2006 4:05:44 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: johnny7

"Not harsh enough... if I may be so bold. ;)"

You may indeed!


43 posted on 06/24/2006 6:21:13 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: samadams2000

"Now he's that really vacant stupid one right?"

You're gonna have to be a little more specific than that. Vacant and stupid describe 99.9% of the Democratic side of the aisle. But yes, he does look vacant and stupid. :)


44 posted on 06/24/2006 6:26:38 AM PDT by jgilbert63
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To: AntiGuv
It would make very little sense for Chafee to run as an Independent. There is no chance he could win as an Independent if he cannot win the GOP primary in the first place.

It makes a huge amount of sense. It will mean that the Dem candidate has a good chance of winning in a divided field. Which means that Chafee can blackmail the pubs into making the Pub challenger drop out, or failing that, can secure a plum job from some big Dem doner in exchange for his treason to his party

45 posted on 06/24/2006 6:33:34 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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