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Kerry called timetable 'cut and run' in 2003
WND ^ | 23 June 2006

Posted on 06/22/2006 5:54:37 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

While Democrats bristle at Republican descriptions of their Iraq policy as "cut and run," Sen. John Kerry, the author of a bill defeated today in the Senate, used that very term to criticize President Bush's consideration during the 2004 election campaign of a timetable for withdrawal.

In a December 2003 speech at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York City, the Massachusetts Democrat said he feared that "in the run-up to the 2004 election, the administration is considering what is tantamount to a cut-and-run strategy," notes Townhall.com writer Tim Chapman.

"Their sudden embrace of accelerated Iraqification and American troop withdrawal dates, without adequate stability, is an invitation to failure," Kerry said in his 2003 speech. "The hard work of rebuilding Iraq must not be dictated by the schedule of the next American election."

Kerry said it "would be a disaster and a disgraceful betrayal of principle to speed up the process simply to lay the groundwork for a politically expedient withdrawal of American troops. That could risk the hijacking of Iraq by terrorist groups and former Ba'athists."

Today, the Senate voted down two proposals to set a timetable for troop withdrawal.

Kerry's plan to require the administration to withdraw all combat troops from Iraq by July 1, 2007, with redeployments beginning this year, was rejected by an 86-13 vote. Later, the Senate voted 60-39, mostly along party lines, against a nonbinding resolution to urge the administration to begin withdrawing troops, but without a timetable.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said withdrawal is "not an option."

"Surrender is not a solution," he asserted.

Senate Minority leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., criticized Republicans for sticking with a "failed" strategy of "stay the course."

"It is long past time to change course in Iraq and start to end the president's open-ended commitment," he said.

Joining all Republicans in support of the nonbinding resolution, with the exception of Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, were Democrats Mark Dayton of Minnesota, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, Bill Nelson of Florida and Ben Nelson of Nebraska.

Lieberman, Bill Nelson and Ben Nelson are running for re-election this fall.

Last week, the House rejected withdrawal timetables.

Republicans have welcomed the debate, ahead of mid-term elections, because it points out stark differences with Democrats over the war and highlights divisions with the Democratic Party.

President Bush has said U.S. troops will remain in Iraq until Iraqi security forces are prepared to defend the country.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; bloodyhopeless; congress; cutandrun; flipflop; georgewbush; iraq; jeanfrancois; johnfnkerry; kerry; timetable; ussenate; war; withdrawal; withdrawl
John F'n Kerry is simply bloody hopeless!

How can anyone take him seriously?

1 posted on 06/22/2006 5:54:40 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

If you're going to advocate a withdrawal on a date certain, you might as well make it an immediate withdrawal. You are guaranteeing defeat. You might as well be defeated now as be defeated later. And it has the advantage that it is cheaper and less bloody.


2 posted on 06/22/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Aussie Dasher

The host on Air America was extreemly agry with Kerry over doing this. Said it was stupid move because it is dividing the Democratic party with the "Cut and runners" on one side and the "Stay the course but only for awhile"
Dems on the other.


3 posted on 06/22/2006 6:00:08 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Aussie Dasher
You know what your problem is AD? You just can't appreciate good nuance (/sarc)
4 posted on 06/22/2006 6:00:16 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Sundials were invented for people like Kerry. Of course, transcripts were invented for him too.


5 posted on 06/22/2006 6:01:56 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: Aussie Dasher; All

Outstanding find by Tim Chapman.


6 posted on 06/22/2006 6:02:17 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Aussie Dasher

Bwahahahahaha ...sKerry is such a berk.


7 posted on 06/22/2006 6:06:08 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("So to hell with that twerp at the [WaPo]. I've got no time for him on a day like this." Mark Steyn)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Joining all Republicans in support of the nonbinding resolution, with the exception of Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, were Democrats Mark Dayton of Minnesota

Hmmmm...looks like someone is a bit nervous in Minnesota?

8 posted on 06/22/2006 6:06:26 PM PDT by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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To: lawnguy

Dayton isn't running.


9 posted on 06/22/2006 6:10:27 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Aussie Dasher

I wonder if he was consistant before he wasn't.


10 posted on 06/22/2006 6:11:27 PM PDT by Random Access
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To: Aussie Dasher

I love it when their own words come back to haunt them.


11 posted on 06/22/2006 6:13:38 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("I don't think Pat Kennedy is crazy, he's just a drunk" -- G. Gordon Liddy (5-10-06))
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To: Aussie Dasher; Fedora; Howlin; ravingnutter; piasa; Peach; Grampa Dave; pinz-n-needlez; ...
Dem Weasels Alert - Massive Iraq Flip-Flop by John Kerry

What a find!! John "Vichy" Kerry doing another FLIP-FLOP! This info needs to get to every reporter and editor in the world (not that many of them will care, but maybe someone will have the integrity and cojones to do a story on it):

"In a December 2003 speech at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York City, the Massachusetts Democrat said he feared that "in the run-up to the 2004 election, the administration is considering what is tantamount to a cut-and-run strategy," notes Townhall.com writer Tim Chapman. "Their sudden embrace of accelerated Iraqification and American troop withdrawal dates, without adequate stability, is an invitation to failure," Kerry said in his 2003 speech. "The hard work of rebuilding Iraq must not be dictated by the schedule of the next American election." Kerry said it "would be a disaster and a disgraceful betrayal of principle to speed up the process simply to lay the groundwork for a politically expedient withdrawal of American troops. That could risk the hijacking of Iraq by terrorist groups and former Ba'athists."
12 posted on 06/22/2006 6:19:46 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Surrender's always been Kerry's choice. It's the French disease. Runs in the family.


13 posted on 06/22/2006 6:27:09 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Enchante

Goodness, what a smoking gun!

I am just CERTAIN that I will be reading about this tomorrow in the NYT and LAT, right?
/sar


14 posted on 06/22/2006 6:27:48 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Aussie Dasher

Kerry is Ted Baxter......

He only repeats what his handlers tell him.


15 posted on 06/22/2006 6:34:57 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Aussie Dasher
Let me get this straight here.

Back when G. H. W. Bush was President, Kerry was against the war and voted against the use of force, then claimed we had failed because we followed the U.N to the letter and left Saddaam in power.

When Clinton attacked Iraq to purposely distract MonicaGate and impeachment, Kerry said Saddaam was a brutal dictator, and was supportive of Clinton's use of force without U.N approval that failed to removc Saddaam.

Before he was running for President, he voted for the use of force, but was against sending in troops with U.N. approval.

While he was running, he was for the war on terror with U.N. approval, but against the war in Iraq, but against the timetable of bringing them home, but didn't regret his vote authorizing force. (nuance?)

Now, he regrets his vote, is for the war in Iraq, but wants to bring our troops home on a timetable.

I'm confused. Are we on the Flip, or the Flop this time?

16 posted on 06/22/2006 6:37:41 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Enchante
Hanoi John continues on a certain plateu to amuse me. The guy truly is not only a jerk but a real as$hole.
Of course we know what a dangerouse as$hole he is. But I don't think the American public will vote for him in 2008. He screwed up just to much he last go around. He may be on a level close to the whale in many American eyes at this point, a embarresment to the demorats, and not to be really taken seriously.
17 posted on 06/22/2006 6:41:07 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Flip-flop John Kerry. Just as bad as John McCain.


18 posted on 06/22/2006 6:44:43 PM PDT by reaganandme (You don't beat a liberal by becoming one.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

THS MORON IS A GIANT JOKE, NOTHING MORE - NOTHING LESS.


19 posted on 06/22/2006 6:49:03 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: chiefqc

Is this the same John Kerry that served in Vietnam? Sold out his country? Threw his service medals away? Revises and extends his remarks almost daily? Thought so!


20 posted on 06/22/2006 6:54:01 PM PDT by baiamonte
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To: Aussie Dasher

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1654044/posts?page=2


21 posted on 06/22/2006 6:55:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Aussie Dasher; Random Access; Michael.SF.

We need to get the guy a flip flop medal. I'm sure he'd wear it with pride.


22 posted on 06/22/2006 6:57:49 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: Aussie Dasher

We don't call him Flipper for nothing. Just doing what he does.


23 posted on 06/22/2006 7:04:46 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Kerry spews the kind of blither that comes from making political decisions after sticking a wet finger in the air, as opposed to basing your objectives and methods on values and convictions that are sound,thoughtful and logical.


24 posted on 06/22/2006 7:10:34 PM PDT by RatRipper
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To: Aussie Dasher
F'n kerry is such fluke...the boats he claimed to have served in were the only things "swift" about him.

He and algore should start a laundry and all it "All Washed Up, Inc.". Do these has-beens know what a sore loser is? Can they be so obsessed with the idea of power they lose all inhibitions about being stupid in public?

These are the two dweebs who, in little league, no one would pick for their side.

They should be give lifetime memberships to the SDASU (Sit down and shut up) foundation...ted kennedy, chairman.
25 posted on 06/22/2006 7:15:02 PM PDT by FrankR (RENO (Not Janet) Re-Elect No One...time to clean house.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I'm so proud, my vote helped to keep this lying Vietnam traitor out of the white house. Can you imagine what we would have if he had won? Perish the thought.

His at-present antiwar stance - subject to change in accordance with whatever political winds are blowing - reveals the real John Kerry.


26 posted on 06/22/2006 7:16:45 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: Aussie Dasher

John F'n Kerry


27 posted on 06/22/2006 7:21:16 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Enchante

I'm so glad people and WND reporters have a good memory about this event.

Now if the GOP would just run an add showing Kerry flip flopping once again.


28 posted on 06/22/2006 8:02:14 PM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship http://markeichenlaub.blogspot.com/2006/06/strategic-relationship-between.)
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To: Peach

This 2003 speech to the Council on Foreign Relations was most likely recorded (I'm guessing) -- he was then already a presidential candidate and CFR would have viewed it as historically significant to have him give a "major foreign policy speech" to them..... if we could turn up a video file of that speech, those excerpts would make the most devastating campaign commercial ever against the Demagogues.


29 posted on 06/22/2006 8:31:10 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Peach
Well the full transcript of the speech is on the CFR website, it appears. Although it's in the section called 'Podcasts' I don't see any kind of MP3 files, nor any video files, but maybe there was something at one point. Maybe a Freeper journalist could find a way to get CFR to provide the video (watch out, as soon as they realize how explosive it is, expect it to disappear down the Orwellian memory-hole!!).

http://www.cfr.org/publication/6576/making_america_secure_again.html

"In fact, I fear that in the run-up to the 2004 election, the administration is considering what is tantamount to a cut-and-run strategy. Their sudden embrace of accelerated Iraqification and American troop withdrawal dates, without adequate stability, is an invitation to failure. The hard work of rebuilding Iraq must not be dictated by the schedule of the next American election. I have called for the administration to transfer sovereignty, and they must transfer it to the Iraqi people as quickly as circumstances permit. But it would be a disaster and a disgraceful betrayal of principle to speed up the process simply to lay the groundwork for a politically expedient withdrawal of American troops. That could risk the hijacking of Iraq by terrorist groups and former Ba'athists. Security and political stability cannot be divorced."
30 posted on 06/22/2006 8:39:34 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The past bites him on the buttocks again. A man too dumb to learn this lesson shouldn't be voted dogcatcher.


31 posted on 06/22/2006 8:44:23 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
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32 posted on 06/22/2006 9:04:39 PM PDT by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!)
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33 posted on 06/22/2006 9:20:54 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Henchster
Are we on the Flip, or the Flop side this time?

LOL. I've lost track, but it's obvious he's comfortable with both. Also favors Heels and Sneaks.

I'd guess he was wearing Heels when he fell on the ski slope. "I don't fall down, the son of a b*tch knocked me over." Odd way to respect someone willing to take a bullet for you! Kerry sees himself as a Weeble, i.e., Weebles Wobble But They Don't Fall Down.

34 posted on 06/22/2006 10:11:10 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: FrankR
Can they be so obsessed with the idea of power they lose all inhibitions about being stupid in public?

Take a look around, friend. The world includes plenty of this type. One tell-tale sign is their inability to feel shame for anything they do. There's something abnormal about that, IMO. Bill Clinton is an obvious example and he has lots of company. Kerry's known as a flip-flopper. Why? Because that's what he does! Hillary uses the same tactics to advance herself politically. For the most part, this is what we've got for a government, federal and state.

I'd really like to see a list of the politicians that conservatives believe are sincerely, and honestly, looking out for the good of their constituents and our country.

35 posted on 06/22/2006 10:33:08 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: Henchster

Now I have a headache.


36 posted on 06/22/2006 11:49:55 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: hsalaw
Just imagine the hangover I had this morning after writing and proofing it. Every time I read it, I said: "No, that can't be right." But of course, it was. It was just F'n K's "Nuance" that made my head spin.

I'm still confused. He has "re-stated" his position today after his bill went down in flames? That was DEFINITELY a Flop, so the next one must be the Flip.

37 posted on 06/23/2006 9:28:09 AM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Enchante
This 2003 speech to the Council on Foreign Relations was most likely recorded (I'm guessing) -- he was then already a presidential candidate and CFR would have viewed it as historically significant to have him give a "major foreign policy speech" to them..... if we could turn up a video file of that speech, those excerpts would make the most devastating campaign commercial ever against the Demagogues.

I'd like to see some group run commercials in prime time comparing his 2003 speech with this one, overlayed with the "I voted for it, before I voted against it" quote - and then follow it with statements of Bush and other Republican leaders in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 and this year - all of which are variations on "stay the course." The punch line should feature a split screen, with Kerry's face superimposed on Flipper (full Flipper lyrics in the background) on one side, and a very Presidential Bush on the other - and the line should be something like "the choice is simple: you choose."

38 posted on 06/23/2006 9:38:20 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Peach
Poor Kerry....
The perfect little windup doll....
The problem is - the spring that powers him is so damned weak, his handlers must constantly wind the handle stuck up his traitorous lying ass.

This can have the effect of twisting him into irrational and ridiculous distortions....

Poor Kerry -- such a poor stupid irrelevant and traitorous sonuvabitch....

F'em

Semper Fi
39 posted on 06/23/2006 11:23:07 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Dutch Boy
Kerry is Ted Baxter......


"Yooooooooooou take that back!"

40 posted on 06/23/2006 2:17:18 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
BUT, while he was against it before he was for it, he was for it before that. Er, I mean he was for it, before he was against it, before he was for it again. (With certain intermediate periods when he was forgainst it.) Wait, is that right? Ah, I mean it's a Flop-Flip-Flop. Or would that be a Flip-Flop-Flip? Oh, never mind, read the article. (Another flashback):

Transfer of Sovereignty: Kerry was for an Iraq "timetable" before he was against an "arbitrary date" ^
  Posted by Stultis
On News/Activism ^ 04/07/2004 2:14:33 AM CDT · 24 replies · 135+ views


Linked thread and linked speeches | 6 April 2003 | Self
According the following Reuters report... Kerry Says June 30 Iraq Handover Date a 'Mistake' ...John Kerry told reporters on Monday: "I have always said consistently that it is a mistake to set an arbitrary date and I hope that the date has nothing to do with the election here in the United States." Well, not quite. Before the date was agreed on Kerry was not only pestering Bush to speed up the transfer of sovereignty in Iraq (to please and appease the Axis of Weasels and the U.N.) he even called for a "specific timetable" (albeit to be established by...

41 posted on 06/23/2006 2:33:14 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Kerry has to be the most stupid politician in our history. The only thing is, I can't make up my mind which is the most stupid: That no one would remember what he said before or bother to look it up. Or, that he actually thinks that the American people will believe anything that he says.
42 posted on 06/23/2006 2:44:03 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Aussie Dasher

Loss of the Monopoly of the news has doomed the left.


43 posted on 06/23/2006 3:40:52 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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