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Seven Nabbed in Miami on Terror Charges in Plot to Hit Sears Tower
Fox ^ | June 22, 2006 | Fox

Posted on 06/22/2006 7:42:36 PM PDT by mdittmar

Seven people were arrested on terrorism conspiracy charges Thursday in connection with the early stages of a plot to attack Chicago's Sears Tower and other buildings in the United States, a federal law enforcement official said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Illinois; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: captured; chicago; counterterrorism; foiled; gwot; jihadinamerica; libertycity7; miami; miamicell; searstower
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1 posted on 06/22/2006 7:42:37 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar
A federal law enforcement official told The Associated Press the alleged plotters were mainly Americans with no apparent ties to Al Qaeda or other foreign terrorist organizations

That's a surprise.

2 posted on 06/22/2006 7:45:38 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: mdittmar
Those arrested include five American citizens, one illegal alien from Haiti, and one resident alien. All are expected to be arraigned in U.S. District Court in Miami tomorrow morning.

The Enemy Within.

3 posted on 06/22/2006 7:46:22 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: mdittmar
Get this - they were MAINLY AMERICAN.

I wonder is this an extension of the A.C.L.U.?

"Officials told FOXNews that the suspects were plotting to wage jihad in conjunction with Al Qaeda and were having elaborate discussions, and that the suspects believed if they knocked down the Sears Tower, that they could effectively cripple the U.S. government."

Pretty stupid "suspects" - crippling the U.S. by knocking down the SEARS TOWER?

LOL!!
4 posted on 06/22/2006 7:47:34 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: ncountylee

We're self destructing within.

These are very DUMB AMERICANS!


5 posted on 06/22/2006 7:48:15 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: ncountylee
They are Black Muslims
6 posted on 06/22/2006 7:48:19 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: ncountylee
Maybe they told AP that (or maybe AP is lying), but wait! There's more:

Officials told FOXNews that the suspects were plotting to wage jihad in conjunction with Al Qaeda and were having elaborate discussions, and that the suspects believed if they knocked down the Sears Tower, that they could effectively cripple the U.S. government.

7 posted on 06/22/2006 7:51:05 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: SauronOfMordor

Well, they were black and they were Muslim, if that is what you meant. There is no news they are linked to the group known as the Black Muslims. One had taken an oath to al-Qaeda.

See:

http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/22/breaking-fbi-stages-terror-raid-in-miami/

and

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005426.htm


8 posted on 06/22/2006 7:51:22 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: mdittmar
I hope the FBI didn't listen in on their phone calls..it would upset senator feingold..and we don't want him to be saddened..


9 posted on 06/22/2006 7:52:03 PM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: ncountylee

I just read the FBI informant was presented to the suspects as a Al-Qaeda member.



10 posted on 06/22/2006 7:52:51 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: mdittmar

Kudos to law enforcement. Let's hope the courts do their job too.

Richard


11 posted on 06/22/2006 7:54:04 PM PDT by oldcapecodder
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To: SauronOfMordor

Before this was reported, I had told my husban that I bet they were black muslims (I feel a growing threat). One wonders if the Nation of Islam is associated with these guys?


12 posted on 06/22/2006 7:54:55 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: nmh

"Pretty stupid "suspects" - crippling the U.S. by knocking down the SEARS TOWER?"

I'll say.
Especially when everybody knows that Roebuck holds the reins of government power.


13 posted on 06/22/2006 7:55:31 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Will they be put in shackles like our US SOLDIERS? The enemy within will never stop! They have been indocrinated by our schools and media to hate the US and all we stand for. They are here and its about time we profile Islamic Radicals and shutdown this religion in our great country. Close the borders, US History mandatory teaching, picture of our President in schools, English only...that is how we fight the enemy within. These savages should be executed or deported...


14 posted on 06/22/2006 7:56:17 PM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: mdittmar

At times FOX news sucks so. I can't believe they are going with Greta just talking away on something that can wait. I don't say it often but thank God CNN has some idea what story is important


15 posted on 06/22/2006 7:57:44 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: devolve

ping


16 posted on 06/22/2006 7:57:47 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Salamander

Too funny.

BTW, 5 of them are black males doing this for ISLAM. Another one is an ILLEGAL from Haiti.

Just wait till more ex-cons leave prison. ISLAM is the religion for those of COLOR. Yup, people of color that are Americans have switched to ISLAM.


17 posted on 06/22/2006 7:59:48 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Blue Turtle
Will they be put in shackles like our US SOLDIERS?

Great point.

Of course you know the answer.

Rev Al and Jesse will be no doubt making statements tomorrow and winging their way to Miami to insure they get good treatment and a fair trial.

18 posted on 06/22/2006 8:00:11 PM PDT by seasoned traditionalist
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To: mdittmar
Last time I checked, the Sears Tower wasn't in NYC, but Hillary, Chuckie, Peter King, and Bloomberg were screaming that terrorists were only interested in NYC, and we shouldn't waste homeland security money on cows in the Midwest.

D.C.'S STUPID SCROOGES SLASH NYC TERROR AID AND SPLURGE ON THE STICKS

"There's no question, they should have given us a lot more," said Mayor Bloomberg. "When you stop a terrorist, they have a map of New York City in their pocket. They don't have a map of any of the other 46 places" that got money yesterday from the feds.

19 posted on 06/22/2006 8:03:24 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Good post, I hope this shuts up that bi partsian group of complainers up for a while


20 posted on 06/22/2006 8:04:40 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: mdittmar
Come on now, this story conflicts it's own information. For example: Officials told FOXNews that the suspects were plotting to wage jihad in conjunction with Al Qaeda...

A federal law enforcement official told The Associated Press the alleged plotters were mainly Americans with no apparent ties to Al Qaeda...

This whole sting operation looks more like and FBI PR stunt than any real counterterrorism success. I mean come on, not a single person has ties to Al Queda? We need to be infiltrating the real organizations not try to round up want to be's. This kind of waste of resources is exactly why the W.O.D. has been and never will be successful. The feds have no real gameplan to infiltrate the heart of these organizations and take down the planners and leaders.
21 posted on 06/22/2006 8:08:17 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: nmh

jihad Americans,that's a misnomer.
Terrorist is the correct word.


22 posted on 06/22/2006 8:08:31 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: nmh
Just wait till more ex-cons leave prison. ISLAM is the religion for those of COLOR.

Yup, people of color that are Americans have switched to ISLAM

Many have and most prisons have Muzzie "chaplains."

Of course they are preaching peace, love, hope and understanding.

If you don't believe me, just ask CAIR.

Hallelujah! (Oops, Praise Allah!!)

And you KNOW that, that ain't going to change soon--freedom of religion, don't you know and freedom to inculcate these poor (mostly illiterate) inmates with teaching from the Koran.

23 posted on 06/22/2006 8:08:34 PM PDT by seasoned traditionalist
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To: nmh
ISLAM is the religion for those of COLOR.

The vast majority of people of color are Christians.

24 posted on 06/22/2006 8:11:05 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: nmh

Most of my kin and neighbors and friends are prison guards.
We've always known who the "next wave" would be.
When the DC snipers were on the loose and everybody was looking for white guys in white vans, we were watching the woods for black "hunters".

And we were right, even though our local libs called us
all "racists".


25 posted on 06/22/2006 8:11:32 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent)
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To: phoenix0468
Come on now, this story conflicts it's own information. For example: Officials told FOXNews that the suspects were plotting to wage jihad in conjunction with Al Qaeda...

A federal law enforcement official told The Associated Press the alleged plotters were mainly Americans with no apparent ties to Al Qaeda...

Oh, I don't know, do you have that short a memory of what transpired just a couple of weeks ago and how EVERYONE, including Mounties, were doing their dam-nest to put a face on their situation which would NOT EVEN hint that those arrested were Muzzies?

What was it they said about those poor young men?

Oh, yes, I remember now. It was:


26 posted on 06/22/2006 8:13:34 PM PDT by seasoned traditionalist
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Names ?
I need names to connect a few dots....


27 posted on 06/22/2006 8:14:41 PM PDT by sarasmom (To all political staff lurkers: SECURE THE BORDERS, OR YOU'RE FIRED!)
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To: phoenix0468
The feds have no real gameplan to infiltrate the heart of these organizations and take down the planners and leaders.

Which of the Federal Agencies involved in the WOT do you work for?

28 posted on 06/22/2006 8:15:30 PM PDT by Just Lori (To everything, there is a season.........Ecclesiastes, 3:1-8)
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To: phoenix0468

You are how old?


29 posted on 06/22/2006 8:16:37 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: seasoned traditionalist

Imagine if Saddam was still around, and had given these registered Democrats a SINGLE, inreported, undestroyed Sarin shell to use at the Sears Tower??


30 posted on 06/22/2006 8:17:54 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Liberalism-What a Pagan Religion...)
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To: seasoned traditionalist

What does this have to do with a PR scheme by the FBI? How many of the 7 that were caught had solid ties to Al Queda or any other know terrorist organization? From the story it is none. How can this be a "successful counterterrorist operation" when the only people that were caught were the ones who were ready to become martyrs? I just don't see how the FBI recruiting terrorists and planning a fake operation is considered productive to counterterrorism. They need to be finding the real deal terrorists and infiltrating their cells, not creating their own.


31 posted on 06/22/2006 8:17:57 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468

For your reading pleasure:

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005350.htm


32 posted on 06/22/2006 8:18:25 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: mdittmar

Excuse me? I don't need to be called immature because I can see through hype. I want to read headlines of the FBI catching terrorist who have ties to Al Queda, and using those resources to infiltrate and bring down the real terrorists. Not create their own sting operation by creating their own fake cell. That, IMO, is counterproductive and inefficient.


33 posted on 06/22/2006 8:20:08 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Not in prisons.
The NOI brainwashers get to them real quick.


34 posted on 06/22/2006 8:20:14 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent)
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To: mdittmar

Sounds like an urban militia group. A pretty stupid one at that.


35 posted on 06/22/2006 8:21:13 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: nmh

"I'm a muslim Brother, I dun been manifested by a miracle, I don eat no swine, I don drink no wine."


36 posted on 06/22/2006 8:22:04 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: mdittmar
Here in MIA I saw the local news and some people living around there saw all these guys coming and going into the warehouse and guarding the entrance very well. They were very quiet and they were spottted previously "doing some sort of exercises and routines" in the yard. Of course no one ever talked to these people and no one knows nada. An ABC correspondent said that one guy pledged alligaince to Al-Queda and that they had started to talk about aquiring "materials".
37 posted on 06/22/2006 8:22:58 PM PDT by FreeManWhoCan (---an American in Maimi..............)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

But how abouts little boys and oodles of females servicing you? In between this pray like clock work and you'll fit in just fine. Oh, cover your face too!


38 posted on 06/22/2006 8:24:22 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: nmh
But but but how could this be? Mikhail Moore said in Fahrenheit 911 that there is no terrorist threat.
39 posted on 06/22/2006 8:25:13 PM PDT by do the dhue (I hope y'all will help bail me out of jail after I dot Mikhail Moore's eyes.)
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To: bnelson44

I guess I should have waited for a few more posts and responded to all of you at once. I am not some ignorant 16 year old on a hissie here. I realize there are jihadists in our midst. Yet, without organization and the resources to carry out any real operation they are effectively non-threats, IMO. Our federal counterterrorism personnel should be using every resource they can muster to find and eliminate the real threat. The sleeping Al Queda and other very organized and very resourceful terrrorists that know what they are doing, and have been trained to do it. These are the real threat. And every time they see a news story such as the one presented here, they laugh. They revel in their glea that resources have been wasted to nab a few wanna bes. When the real attack occurs, we will discover, just as with 9/11, that they had been living in our midst for years. They weren't joining the first 'I don't know you but I'll join your bomb the Sears Tower scheme' sting that comes along. The 'terrorists' who were nabbed are useless, IMO. I agree with you all that they should rot in jail, but essentially, useless.


40 posted on 06/22/2006 8:27:44 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: do the dhue
I know. It's really a "right wing conspiracy" designed to take away ONLY YOUR RIGHTS and invade ONLY YOUR PRIVACY. Bush and his gang are just a bunch of busy bodies who like to gossip about YOU. They're out to get YOU! They just want to run up the deficit and terrorize YOU!
41 posted on 06/22/2006 8:28:23 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: nmh

nmh, I don't care if the Bush administration plants bugs up my ass, as long as they are catching terrorists who's planning and resources come from somewhere else besides the federal government!!


42 posted on 06/22/2006 8:30:30 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468

Sorry about that.
Where is that Sears Tower anyway?


43 posted on 06/22/2006 8:30:59 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: phoenix0468
I hope you know I was being very sarcastic.

I feel the same way. I'm not so foolish to believe Bush has excess resources to monitor MY phone, or MY PC etc..

These people are real and they're here to stay.
44 posted on 06/22/2006 8:33:14 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: phoenix0468

Have some good INTEL?


45 posted on 06/22/2006 8:34:37 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: mdittmar

Let's see now, Chicago is the headquarters for the NOI, right? I wonder if there's another shoe ready to drop tomorrow morning.


46 posted on 06/22/2006 8:36:35 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire.)
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To: nmh
Hey,

I was being sarcastic too!!!
47 posted on 06/22/2006 8:41:07 PM PDT by do the dhue (I hope y'all will help bail me out of jail after I dot Alan Colmes's eyes.)
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To: nmh; bnelson44; mdittmar; seasoned traditionalist; Spanaway Lori

If any of you think that this little, and want to emphasize little, sting operation makes even the tiniest dent in counterterrorism, your all ignorant. You have fallen for a media ploy that the FBI and the feds have used for years. They will hype even the smallest, most insignificant operation as some kind of success. Squeazing every minute ounce of danger they can to make the public praise their feable effort. This "fake cell" did nothing to catch the real sleepers who are much more likely to have the planning and resources to carry out an attack of the magnitude invisioned by this rouse. While the feds, state, and local authorities are busy playing cell leader, the real cells are busy planning the deaths of you and I. I am not amused by either the feds lack of proper direction in this matter not all you your simple minded enthusiasm for such drivel. It is absurd that anyone would find this operation a success in any way except that we have seven nutso's who probalby would never have found a real terrorist cell to join, being tricked into the FBI's fake cell and caught. Worthless, useless, and extremely counterproductive. The end game of this type of operation is for the Feds to be shrugging their shoulders again as to how and why we were attacked by terrorists who planned from within, again.

Bottom line poeple, wake up, don't think that every little event like this equals some kind of success on the war on terror. It does not, and if you believe so you can take a look at the billions of dollars, thousands of lives, and influx of drugs that are a result of the War on Drugs. The war plan must be changed and it must be changed soon or we are all in for a really rude awakening.


48 posted on 06/22/2006 8:41:34 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: nmh

nmh, I know you were being sarcastic. I am just upset that there are some in this thread who think that this operation, and even the one in Canada, made any kind of dent in the War on terrorism. The real terrorists are laughing their asses off at both the feds here and in Canada because they have no clue where they are. It's deploreable that we have to read about the feds wasting money on sting operations that catch minnows when the sharks are swimming in their neighborhood.


49 posted on 06/22/2006 8:44:20 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468
I think making ad homonym attacks when you don't have any facts of your own, is a bit sophomoric. Don't you?
50 posted on 06/22/2006 8:44:37 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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