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Court's marijuana ruling a victory for authorities(zero tolerance in the real world)
http://www.mlive.com/news/ ^ | 6 22 06 | Steven Hepker

Posted on 06/22/2006 9:52:05 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: tacticalogic

This will truly change our world.


151 posted on 06/25/2006 10:10:15 AM PDT by somniferum (Annoy a liberal.. Work hard and be happy.)
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To: OmahaFields
No, the law is a zero-tolerance law. zero means zero, not an amount that would cause intoxication.

Everything Has Its Time

1 To everything there is a season,

A time for every purpose under heaven:

2 A time to be born,
And a time to die;
A time to plant,
And a time to pluck what is planted;

Ecclesiastes 3 (New King James Version)

BibleGateway.com

A time to grow cannabis,
a time to harvest it,
a time to cure it,
and a time to smoke it.

152 posted on 06/25/2006 10:13:01 AM PDT by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:)
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To: DesScorp
"Do you agree with Rudy's way of dealing with guns too?"

No, but does that one mistaken impression invalidate his approach to crime overall?


yes. Authoritarian laws should never stay on the books no matter if they are right or wrong.

153 posted on 06/25/2006 10:13:26 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: somniferum; tacticalogic

Call it what you will...thujone or THC---anything that can help develop and replace the wild growing and potent marijuana plant is great and will help save many lives.


154 posted on 06/25/2006 10:14:19 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: freepatriot32

155 posted on 06/25/2006 10:16:37 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: Moonman62
Amsterdam, where marijuana law enforcement is so lax it's considered legal, is now majority Muslim.
I do not believe that the majority of the residents of Amsterdam are muslim. Please post a link
156 posted on 06/25/2006 10:21:12 AM PDT by freedom moose (has de cultivar el que sembres)
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To: WLR
"Your home was not distroyed by the Hurricane it was distroyed by flood and I am sorry your policy does not cover flooding"

"Your Home was not distroyed by the Hurricane it was distroyed by wind I am sorry your policy does not cover "wind damage"


Everyone should know that homeowners policies do not include wind and flood coverage. They are purchased separately.

Not all homes are located on a flood plain or hurricane zone. If I live in Denver I have no need for those coverages.

For the record I hate insurance companies as much as the next guy but the homeowner has the responsibility here.
157 posted on 06/25/2006 10:22:25 AM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: eleni121
Call it what you will...thujone or THC---anything that can help develop and replace the wild growing and potent marijuana plant is great and will help save many lives.

It won't work here. The federal government has a self-imposed madate to eradicate every hemp plant that isn't under direct federal supervision. We've got wild growing hemp that's got a THC content low enough to be pretty well worthless for drug content already, and they're out there cutting and burning that as fast as they can find it now.

158 posted on 06/25/2006 10:23:17 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
And they get to fly around in helicopters and everything! =P
159 posted on 06/25/2006 10:34:07 AM PDT by somniferum (Annoy a liberal.. Work hard and be happy.)
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To: OmahaFields
In brief - it's because it is a great mind and body experience - and not a significant health risk. There are thousands of years of history to prove this.(winston2)

TOL said the same for LSD, except for the thousands of years part.

I have 34 years of experience with cannabis and zero experience with the LSD (or any other powders, pills or injectables) - but - I ran a search for "TOL" "LSD". I came up with a relatively informative video site that shows film of persons under the influence of the various substances.

You Tube

LSD German

From what I saw, LSD seems to be powerful enough to virtually paralyze the user. I have never seen any cannabis that could do that.

In brief - I would say that LSD has the potential to be much more dangerous than cannabis.

160 posted on 06/25/2006 10:49:04 AM PDT by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:)
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To: Beckwith
I am sorry I did not explain further.

Folks who had flood insurance were told their homes were damaged by wind: Therefore they were not covered.

Folks that had Hurricane insurance were told their homes were damaged by flood: Therefore they were not covered.

So the Con being played is in the middle of the hurricane at some point they were briefly covered just after their roofs blew off and just before the rains or flooding hit.. Or those who were first subject to the flooding had insurance for that brief moment between the time the floods came and the hurricane blew their roofs off.


How disgustingly Clintonesqe

"These people were told that there home wasn't damaged by the hurricane - it was "wind damage" - so they weren't covered! OR it was "water damage", not FLOOD ..."


Many say they were told by their insurance agent that they did not need flood ... Some with repairable houses (damaged by wind alone) have had to leave the ...

risingfromruin.msnbc.com/2005/11/bay_st_louis_mi_1.html




http://searchwarp.com/swa23988.htm
Many of the homes destroyed by Hurricanes Rita and Katrina were ruined by deep water flooding which caused irreversible structural damage. Many people would assume that flooding caused by hurricanes would be something that insurance would cover, however many insurance companies have been rejecting these claims insisting that flood damage isn’t covered in regular policies.
In addition, there have also been many emerging stories that are claiming that carriers have been lying and attempting to bribe their customers into signing waivers that would admit their homes were destroyed by flooding and not the hurricane. In other cases the insurance carriers were trying to claim the homes were destroyed by wind and not the water.
W
161 posted on 06/25/2006 11:56:17 AM PDT by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: WLR

Apologies wrong forum.

W


162 posted on 06/25/2006 11:57:49 AM PDT by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: VRWCtaz
lack of understanding

What's to understand? Dopers invent facts and whine when asked for a source.

163 posted on 06/25/2006 12:47:08 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: tacticalogic
Soouds like Michigan has criminalized the posession and consumption of cellulose and chlorophyl.

Don't listen to the voices in your head.

164 posted on 06/25/2006 12:48:11 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: MortMan

Your bluff was called, you folded. Pretend all you want.


165 posted on 06/25/2006 12:51:30 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Don't listen to the voices in your head.

So far, they're smarter than you.

166 posted on 06/25/2006 12:53:46 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

The voices in your head are telling you that you're smart?

Trippy.


167 posted on 06/25/2006 12:55:13 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Right now, they're telling me you're a bored little troll looking for someone to piss off.


168 posted on 06/25/2006 12:58:20 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Chill, dude. Having your butt handed to you in debate isn't the end of the world.


169 posted on 06/25/2006 1:02:04 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Not to worry. I'll let you know if it ever happens.


170 posted on 06/25/2006 1:03:47 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

That would be new.


171 posted on 06/25/2006 1:04:59 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Not new, just not what you're used to.


172 posted on 06/25/2006 1:08:09 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: LowOiL
ROFLMBO... who says pot doesn't cause paranoia... this thread is proof it does...

What are you talking about?

173 posted on 06/25/2006 1:37:08 PM PDT by stands2reason (Rivers will run dry and mountains will crumble, but two wrongs will never make a right.)
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To: Kozak

"Can we start by shooting drunk drivers?"

Sure! As soon as we do, expect a substantial discussion of the efficacy of DUI laws, one that should have come years ago.


174 posted on 06/25/2006 3:06:43 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: Moonman62

"The irony of your screed is that Amsterdam, where marijuana law enforcement is so lax it's considered legal, is now majority Muslim."

Is 4.4% of the population a majority? Sounds like a tiny minority to me.

http://www.amsterdam.info/netherlands/population/


175 posted on 06/26/2006 9:41:19 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz
That's the population figures for the entire Netherlands, and I believe the figure is closer to 10%.

In Amsterdam and Rotterdam the Muslim concentration is much higher. Sharia isn't too far off in the future. Ask the Dutch who are emigrating rather than staying to enjoy the legal dope.

176 posted on 06/26/2006 10:08:13 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
Okay Moonman, let's see some figures. Show us proof that the Muslim population in the Netherlands is really 10%. After doing some more searching I saw various figures on different websites, all lower than 6%. I didn't look long, but I couldn't find a percentage for Amsterdam in particular, but I doubt it's even 10%, let alone a majority. You claim that a majority of those living in Amsterdam are Muslims. Show some proof to back this claim up. That would be big news if it were really true, there'd have all sorts of stories on it published on the web from reliable sources.
177 posted on 06/26/2006 10:29:03 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: Moonman62
Since their information comes from readers who pots their content, Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source, but there they say that 11% of those in Amsterdam identify themselves as Muslim. That's a long way from being a majority of the population of that city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdam_(municipality)
178 posted on 06/26/2006 10:34:19 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: eleni121
Amway is captitalism at its finest. In fact, the only country where it was restricted was China. Most critics like this bozo Hassan are those who quit and couldn't do anything or want to sell a book... I prefer to learn from winners not losers.

Are you involved with Amway? You use several catch phrases that the cult brainwashes with including "capitalism at its finest" and "losers".

179 posted on 06/26/2006 10:34:51 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: DesScorp
"Do you agree with Rudy's way of dealing with guns too?"

No, but does that one mistaken impression invalidate his approach to crime overall?

Yes. Anyone too dense to realize the plain meaning of the 2nd Amendment is not someone who should be trusted with enforcing laws.

180 posted on 06/26/2006 10:38:09 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: jmc813

Send your resume to the Democraps Party of Michigan...they need more cult kooks like you.


181 posted on 06/26/2006 11:38:31 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121
Send your resume to the Democraps Party of Michigan...they need more cult kooks like you.

You never answered me. Are you an Amway distributor or involved with them in some way?

182 posted on 06/26/2006 11:57:09 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: jmc813

In a free country no one - and certainly not me - is obliged to reply to a stupid question like yours.


183 posted on 06/26/2006 12:01:38 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121
In a free country no one - and certainly not me - is obliged to reply to a stupid question like yours.

I'll take that as a yes. I genuinely feel bad for you, as Amway is a terrible organization which attracts good people with good intentions, and then ruins them financially and psychologically. I'll pray for you.

184 posted on 06/26/2006 12:27:49 PM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: jmc813

Your sourness betrays your very personal dislike for AMWAY. I guess you are one of those who failed at AMWAY too.


185 posted on 06/26/2006 12:32:44 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121
Your sourness betrays your very personal dislike for AMWAY.

My sourness comes from how they twist the Word of the Lord out of greed.

I guess you are one of those who failed at AMWAY too.

Never was involved. I had had a friend, however, who was involved with Excel Communications, another multilevel marketing cult and I was immiediately put off by the tactics used by the higher-ups. Luckily he got out quickly, though too you guys, he would be considered a "loser".

As I said before, I hold no personal animosity against you and wish the best for you outside of the organization you are now in. Unfortunately, you've been taught to believe that I am either evil for being so outspoken about such a wonderful organization or am a "loser" who failed the business. My prayers for you and yours.

186 posted on 06/26/2006 12:46:24 PM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: jmc813

Now that I have seen some of your postings on Amway and against great Republicans like De Vos ...I can suggest you start posting at DU not here.


187 posted on 06/26/2006 12:54:03 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Mojave

Let me get this straight. If you have residue in your blood that you did something that means that you can't drive now without getting arrested. Tell me, does this put an end to alcohol limits? After all, if you drank too much a while back, but you are now below the legal limit that doesn't mean that you weren't impaired at one time.


188 posted on 06/26/2006 1:02:46 PM PDT by doubled (A box of rocks laughs at the intellect shown on DU)
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To: eleni121
Now that I have seen some of your postings on Amway and against great Republicans like De Vos ...I can suggest you start posting at DU not here.

I have one more point to make on this topic and then I'll drop it or will happily take this to freepmail if you desire. A post you made earlier in this thread...

Most critics like this bozo Hassan are those who quit and couldn't do anything or want to sell a book... I prefer to learn from winners not losers.

...Is the EXACT same thing said by both Scientologists and Moonies about Hassan. Think that over.

Again, I am not being hostile towards you personally, but if you are a Christian, I beg of you to really contrast what you are taught by Amway with what the Bible has to say. You will continue to be in my prayers.

189 posted on 06/27/2006 10:31:06 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: KoRn
If you were ruler of the county, would you have us all submit a drug screening every week or so?

Certainly would curtail the use of drugs, wouldn't it?
190 posted on 06/30/2006 1:22:28 AM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: garylmoore
" Certainly would curtail the use of drugs, wouldn't it?"

I doubt it. Drug screening is way overrated. The only drugs that urine screening are good for are marijuana and benzodiazapines.

191 posted on 06/30/2006 6:18:18 AM PDT by KoRn
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To: KoRn
I doubt it. Drug screening is way overrated. The only drugs that urine screening are good for are marijuana and benzodiazapines.

I really don't know what the answer is but we do have a severe drug problem, especially alcohol.



192 posted on 06/30/2006 9:25:47 PM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: garylmoore
" I really don't know what the answer is but we do have a severe drug problem, especially alcohol."

The drugs and alcohol aren't the problem. The people are the problem. See this to its end and it isn't all that dissimilar to the gun control debate.

193 posted on 07/01/2006 8:14:31 AM PDT by KoRn
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To: doubled
Let me get this straight. If you have residue in your blood that you did something that means that you can't drive now without getting arrested.

Straight? Your statement is euphemistic obfuscation.

194 posted on 07/21/2006 11:30:42 PM PDT by Mojave
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