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On PBS, Charlie Rose Asks Al Gore Why Bush Resists 'Enlightened Conversation'
News Busters ^ | June 21, 2006 | Tim Graham

Posted on 06/22/2006 10:21:53 PM PDT by Lorianne

Back from a break for heart surgery, PBS talk-show host Charlie Rose devoted his entire hour-long show Monday night to Al Gore, promoting his doom-documentary "An Inconvenient Truth." Rose pressed Gore comfortably from the left: if the president has an "intellectually dishonest" position ignoring the facts, and why no one is having an "enlightened conversation" with President Bush on global warming. Once Rose shifted to Iraq, he laughed at Gore when they discussed whether Bush knew he would invade Iraq as he campaigned in 2000: "I don’t think Dick Cheney had told him yet that he was going to invade Iraq.” This, after Gore said he was trying to convey a "textured and subtle" foreign policy mindset.

MRC intern Eugene Gibilaro found and transcribed this section of the interview, about 25 minutes in:

Al Gore: "I had one Republican CEO in one of the largest businesses in America say to me privately, off the record, he said ‘Al, look’, and a big supporter of Bush, he said ‘Al, lets be honest, 15 minutes after George Bush leaves the Oval Office, regardless of whose elected, America is going to have a different global warming policy, we know that’. And I think Exxon-Mobil knows it."

Charlie Rose: "Why do you think the Bush Administration, or the President himself, or Dick Cheney, are opposed to this? Is it because they’re natural allies of the people who would suffer if there are either taxes or standards against the burning of fossil fuel? Is that the principal reason you think they don’t want to buy into it? Which is an intellectually dishonest point, position, i.e., you’re doing it for reasons having nothing to do with the facts, you’re doing it because of whose ox is gored."

Al Gore: "When people make decisions like that, sometimes they don’t let themselves become aware of how craven the position is and they convince themselves that there is some legitimate doubt about what the truth really is. In the book and in the movie I quote Upton Sinclair who wrote 100 years ago, ‘it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon him not understanding’. And I think that in a sense, Bush and Cheney are manifestations of a first cousin of that phenomenon."

Charlie Rose: "But they’re never going to run for political office again."

Al Gore: "Well, they’re part of a group that has attained control over the public policy process and the dialogue in America, temporarily."

Charlie Rose: "But do you know anybody who has temporarily tried to have a conversation with the president about this in a way which you would consider an enlightened conversation? Who has the capacity to sit with the president and say you ought to know about this. You ought to see this in a different light and someone who the president would be responsive to, who would listen."

Al Gore: "Yeah, but it hasn’t…"

Charlie Rose: "And they get the same, ‘I hear you, I believe it’s a problem, but I don’t think it’s caused by the factors you suggest. And it’s not as urgent as you say’.

Al Gore: "I can’t quote him even indirectly because it wasn’t, I didn’t get. He isn’t, he appears to be an incurious person."

Charlie Rose: "Incurious by nature."

Al Gore: "Yeah, I think he’s very smart, I don’t go with those who say he’s not smart, I think he’s very smart. But, there is a surprising lack of curiosity about things that most people think would be important if you’re someone in office."

Charlie Rose: "And you think this is also true about the decision to go to war?"

Al Gore: "Yeah."

Charlie Rose: "Not curious about the consequences? Not curious about the implications? Not curious about what happens after you topple Saddam?"

Al Gore: "I think in a way, and first of all I think the decision to invade Iraq was the worst strategic mistake in American history."

Charlie Rose: "The worst strategic decision in American history."

Al Gore: "Yeah, General William Odom, a respected former head of one of the intelligence agencies said that also, others have. But I think it came out of a kind of perfect storm of several temptations. Karl Rove saw it as a political opportunity. I think the ideological…"

Charlie Rose: "They went to war because it was a political opportunity?"

Al Gore: "I’m not saying that there was a direct. I’m saying there was a perfect storm where there were several elements that combined."

Charlie Rose: "This is post-9/11?"

Al Gore: "Yeah, I think it started before then."

Charlie Rose: "The idea to look for a reason to invade Iraq?"

Al Gore: "Well, look, I don’t want to be heard as oversimplifying this. I’m trying to convey a more textured and subtle…"

Charlie Rose: "Mindset about a foreign policy."

Right, if you have a commander in chief who doesn’t ask hard questions, and who largely accepts the recommendations of influential advisors, like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld and Karl Rove. If the three of them than have different reasons for wanting to do something, but they agree on a recommended policy, then the probing that might uncover the internal inconsistencies doesn’t take place."

Charlie Rose: "So do you think the president had an opinion on this when he ran for the presidency?"

Al Gore: "On Iraq? No, I don’t think Dick Cheney had told him yet that he was going to invade Iraq." (Don't miss the shot of Charlie laughing.)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: defundpbs; ekthelthior; manbearpig; pbs; serial; superserial; totallyserial

1 posted on 06/22/2006 10:21:56 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

He could ask Al Gore the same question.


2 posted on 06/22/2006 10:23:05 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Lorianne
"When people make decisions like that, sometimes they don’t let themselves become aware of how craven the position is and they convince themselves that there is some legitimate doubt about what the truth really is."

Pot, Kettle, black. Algore is projecting his own failings on others again.

3 posted on 06/22/2006 10:24:25 PM PDT by Jeff Head (God, family, country)
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To: Lorianne

The man is sick and demented. But I don't know if want him committed to a nice padded room or let him wander the streets with his sandwich-board sign proclaiming "The End is Near"...


4 posted on 06/22/2006 10:25:20 PM PDT by kromike
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ping for future.
5 posted on 06/22/2006 10:25:56 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Lorianne

Charlie's brush with mortality left him with a brain altered by the ether.


6 posted on 06/22/2006 10:26:04 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Lorianne
Al, Charlie, steady guys...

(Somebody run get the straitjackets.)

... These are tranquilizer darts. Now don't do anything foolish. We are here to help you.

Steady now.

(Somebody help me load this thing.)

Steady, fellows. We are your friends...

7 posted on 06/22/2006 10:29:13 PM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George Bush and his supurb leadership.)
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To: Lorianne

These 2 loons will be so happy if/when an enemy succeeds in killing millions of Libs/RATS in and around some of our large cities, right? Yep, fraid so. Recall mny of the victims in NYC on 9/11 were probably liberal type thinkers. But the left never missed a step in condemning the USA for the slaughter.


8 posted on 06/22/2006 10:31:45 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Lorianne

Algore? Who is Algore? Sounds familiar.......


9 posted on 06/22/2006 10:35:37 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Lorianne
Once Rose shifted to Iraq, he laughed at Gore when they discussed whether Bush knew he would invade Iraq as he campaigned in 2000: "I don’t think Dick Cheney had told him yet that he was going to invade Iraq.”

Well, Al, for that matter, I don't think Osama had told either of them yet that he was going to send some of his boys over to play chicken with our office buildings.

Good Lord...the man is a cretin.

10 posted on 06/22/2006 10:44:28 PM PDT by RichInOC (Al Gore: Proof positive that fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.)
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To: Lorianne
It's like watching two chimps in the monkey house jerkin' each other.

Funny how Charlie didn't mention the inconvenient truth that Al's docudrama is a huge bomb.

11 posted on 06/22/2006 10:46:22 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Lorianne
If someone of Gore's ilk becomes the next President of the U.S.; there likely will be a different global warming policy.

It'll probably be similar to the one that Canada had under Liberal governments. The policy goes something like this: mouth a lot of platitudes; attend a lot of international conferences; sign every available international agreement; then -- do nothing. Environmentalists, the media, and the Birkenstock crowd at the local Starbucks will gush nothing but praise for the "enlightened conversations". They will be remarkably incurious about whether anything was actually changed.
12 posted on 06/22/2006 10:49:54 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Lorianne

Actually, I guess taking in $7 million doesn't make it a bomb, since it was just a filmed lecture. Maybe that $7 million will pay the fuel bill on Al's private jet flights around the country to tell us all not to waste fuel.


13 posted on 06/22/2006 10:50:36 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Lorianne

Mr. Rose, have you stopped beating your wife yet?


14 posted on 06/22/2006 11:00:42 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Whats the matter with these Liberals? Didn't they learn anything in reeducation camp?)
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To: RobbyS

I think he was born with an altered brain. He loves playing the roll of an intellectual, but he lacks the intellect to pull it off. He an Al Gore are a good pair...neither are what they would like the public to believe they are. Their dialogue proves that Rose is no intellectual, and Gore doesn't know squat about "Global Warming" or any other subject...he was born with a deficient brain.


15 posted on 06/22/2006 11:02:03 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: Lorianne

If President Bush has need of an "enlighted conversation" with anyone it certainly wouldn't be with "dim bulb" Al Gore.


16 posted on 06/22/2006 11:18:49 PM PDT by D1X1E
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To: D1X1E

enlighted=enlightened


17 posted on 06/22/2006 11:22:30 PM PDT by D1X1E
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To: Darkwolf377

You crack me up!


18 posted on 06/22/2006 11:22:52 PM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: Lorianne

Charlie Rose is right where scumbags like him belong - - where nobody sees them.
Funny how this "dialogue" only came to light because somebody went and dug up a transcript.


19 posted on 06/22/2006 11:24:11 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PeskyOne
He an Al Gore are a good pair...neither are what they would like the public to believe they are.

As with Bill Maher, most people don't seem to grasp that these people have WRITERS and RESEARCHERS. Then they just read what's handed to them. And they love getting in their jackets and ties and getting in front of lights and cameras--"People are LISTENING to me pntificate!"--and playing Intellectual.

What kind of intellectual would be able to stand these two idiots for more than five minutes?

20 posted on 06/22/2006 11:28:02 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377
The kind that earned its stripes, such as they are, at any of a couple thousand of this country's soi-disant institutions of higher learning, any time in the last 20 years or so.
21 posted on 06/23/2006 12:00:38 AM PDT by Tenniel (Whenever a man casts a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct -- T. Jefferson)
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To: Lorianne
Yeah, I think he’s very smart, I don’t go with those who say he’s not smart, I think he’s very smart.

On Iraq? No, I don’t think Dick Cheney had told him yet that he was going to invade Iraq.

So Bush is very smart, but very dumb.

Hey, Al, I've got a new project for you. It's not easy, but I just know you are up to the task:

Make even less sense.

22 posted on 06/23/2006 12:04:33 AM PDT by TChad
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To: Lorianne

Al should ask NASA why there is also warming on Mars.

What's the cause, sir?


23 posted on 06/23/2006 12:07:27 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: Lorianne

Charlie Rose & Al Gore??? That must have been a truly fascinatinzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz,,,,,huh,,,oh, sorry, fell asleep. What was I saying??


24 posted on 06/23/2006 12:38:29 AM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: Lorianne

Were they fondling each other during this exchange?


25 posted on 06/23/2006 12:47:02 AM PDT by bad company (The fight will not be the way you want it to be. The fight will be the way it is.)
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To: Lorianne

Al, lets be honest, 15 minutes after George Bush leaves the Oval Office, regardless of whose elected, America is going to have a different global warming policy, we know that’. And I think Exxon-Mobil knows it."


I don't know about Exxon-Mobil, but I do believe that the next President is going to get us back into that crazy Kyoto stuff again. What a waste of money. IMHO.


26 posted on 06/23/2006 2:49:43 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Lorianne

"Dude, quite bogarding that enlightenment and pass it here!

27 posted on 06/23/2006 2:57:09 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Lorianne
I have just one question for Prince Albert:

Mr. Gore, since you have been aware for many years of the looming disaster that is Global Warming®, why is it that the Clinton Administration did so little to promote the ratification of the Kyoto Accords?

28 posted on 06/23/2006 2:57:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Lorianne

"Why does Siddhartha Bush Sab resist enlightened conversation?"

Unlike Gore, he's got a day job.

29 posted on 06/23/2006 3:03:48 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: Lorianne

Why can't Al Gore, and Bill Clinton for that matter, just go off and retire instead of constantly flappin' their big yap everyday?

Oh, I forgot, they're Democrats.

Never mind.


30 posted on 06/23/2006 3:19:00 AM PDT by eastcobb
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To: Lorianne

Of course there's a million things to say about this stupid interview. I'll just pick one:

The Iraqi military was shooting at US planes on a regular basis (every day?) after 1991. That alone was enough reason to invade them.


31 posted on 06/23/2006 3:19:57 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Lorianne

'Textured and subtle' -- nuanced, flip-flop, lying lib losers. Enormous egos with nowhere to go. Insulting conversations like this between elitist Liberals are why God gave us common sense.


32 posted on 06/23/2006 3:29:36 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Lorianne

A dinosaur talking to a tree stump.

Yeah, that's enlightening.


33 posted on 06/23/2006 3:35:48 AM PDT by exit82 (If Democrats can lead, then I'm Chuck Norris.)
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To: Lorianne

why no one is having an "enlightened conversation" with President Bush on global warming.

Has it ever occured to Charlie that George Bush has?


34 posted on 06/23/2006 4:54:53 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Lorianne

‘Al, lets be honest, 15 minutes after George Bush leaves the Oval Office, regardless of whose elected, America is going to have a different global warming policy,

Wanna bet?


35 posted on 06/23/2006 4:55:54 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Lorianne

No barf alert, I got sick just reading the title.


36 posted on 06/23/2006 4:56:24 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Lorianne

Al Gore on the Charlie Rose show! The two most boring people on the planet on the same program had to be the extreme of "Must Avoid" TV.


37 posted on 06/23/2006 5:12:56 AM PDT by capt. norm (W.C. Fields: "The time has come to take the bull by the tail and face the situation".)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
They will be remarkably incurious about whether anything was actually changed.
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It isn't that the ecowackos will be remarkably incurious about whether anything changed, they don't care. In fact if their policies actually solved the "problem" they would be out of work, so "solutions" that don't actually fix the problem are to be preferred. Then they can come up with new solutions, which won't fix the "problem" either.
The objective is to have something further to advocate, more laws, more restrictions of individual rights, more power to be assumed by the government, which they, of course, will control.
38 posted on 06/23/2006 5:52:34 AM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Lorianne
PBS/NPR is the propaganda wing of the DNC. Gotta wonder why Republicans help fund it?
39 posted on 06/23/2006 5:55:13 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Lorianne
In the book and in the movie I quote Upton Sinclair who wrote 100 years ago, ‘it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon him not understanding’.

Al Gore is out of his mind to use that quote, since it describes the Global Warming Industry so perfectly.

40 posted on 06/23/2006 5:57:07 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Lorianne
Why Bush Resists 'Enlightened Conversation'

Because he's busy fighting a world war, American Marxists, socialists, liberals and dhimmicrats.
41 posted on 06/23/2006 6:02:42 AM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: Lorianne
"why no one is having an 'enlightened conversation' with President Bush on global warming."

That's as far as I got reading this article; my question to Mr. rose would be, "Why isn't anyone having an 'enlightened conversation' with President Bush about the 'Tooth Fairy'?". I mean as long as we're talking fantasy, let's thrown in 'Santa Claus', 'The Easter Bunny' and secondary smoke, too.

But I guess the good point is, most of us would never know what the likes of Charlie Rose and Larry King say if someone didn't post it on FR. Liberal TV for liberals, and the only reason it's hot outside is that it is almost July.
42 posted on 06/23/2006 6:03:49 AM PDT by FrankR (RENO (Not Janet) Re-Elect No One...time to clean house.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
If you haven't been to http://www.climateaudit.org ,you really should. It's a blog by Steve McIntire, one of the scientists who exposed the flaws in the "hockey stick" analysis. It's a fascinating read - and it shows that the MSM is over-spinning this NAS report on global warming.
43 posted on 06/23/2006 6:04:15 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: Lorianne

I'm sure the 200 brie and Birkenstock liberals who actually watched Charlie Rose that night were amused and probably celebrated by opening a bottle of organically grown, free traded and environmentaly friendly manufactured tofu wine and carefully recycled the bottle afterward.


44 posted on 06/23/2006 6:52:31 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: The Great RJ
...environmentally friendly manufactured tofu wine and carefully recycled the bottle afterward.

 

We don't need to know where they recycled the bottle...

45 posted on 06/23/2006 6:56:25 AM PDT by Fintan (One day we'll look back on this and plow into a parked car.)
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To: PeskyOne

The media is full of intellectuals manque. Bill Moyers is another prime example.


46 posted on 06/23/2006 7:08:36 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Cheburashka
You're right about the ecowackos. Global warming is just the latest social myth they've created to drive their agenda. The myth of depleting resources was becoming less effective; as all of the doomsday predictions were proven dramatically wrong.

Interestingly enough, many of the doom-sayers still hold to the scarce resources myth; as well as the global warming myth. Lately, when confronted with a global warming true-believer; I remark on the high price of oil, and ask whether the world is running out of fossil fuels. "Of course we are" is the usual response. My rejoinder is to say something like: "well that should solve the greenhouse gas problem". Then, I like to stand back and watch the smoke rise from their ears.
47 posted on 06/23/2006 11:33:46 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Lorianne

Ummmm... Maybe Bush doesn't like iced tea???


48 posted on 06/23/2006 11:35:07 AM PDT by MortMan (There are 10 kinds of people in the world... Those that understand binary and those that don't!)
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