Skip to comments.On PBS, Charlie Rose Asks Al Gore Why Bush Resists 'Enlightened Conversation'
Posted on 06/22/2006 10:21:53 PM PDT by Lorianne
Back from a break for heart surgery, PBS talk-show host Charlie Rose devoted his entire hour-long show Monday night to Al Gore, promoting his doom-documentary "An Inconvenient Truth." Rose pressed Gore comfortably from the left: if the president has an "intellectually dishonest" position ignoring the facts, and why no one is having an "enlightened conversation" with President Bush on global warming. Once Rose shifted to Iraq, he laughed at Gore when they discussed whether Bush knew he would invade Iraq as he campaigned in 2000: "I dont think Dick Cheney had told him yet that he was going to invade Iraq. This, after Gore said he was trying to convey a "textured and subtle" foreign policy mindset.
MRC intern Eugene Gibilaro found and transcribed this section of the interview, about 25 minutes in:
Al Gore: "I had one Republican CEO in one of the largest businesses in America say to me privately, off the record, he said Al, look, and a big supporter of Bush, he said Al, lets be honest, 15 minutes after George Bush leaves the Oval Office, regardless of whose elected, America is going to have a different global warming policy, we know that. And I think Exxon-Mobil knows it."
Charlie Rose: "Why do you think the Bush Administration, or the President himself, or Dick Cheney, are opposed to this? Is it because theyre natural allies of the people who would suffer if there are either taxes or standards against the burning of fossil fuel? Is that the principal reason you think they dont want to buy into it? Which is an intellectually dishonest point, position, i.e., youre doing it for reasons having nothing to do with the facts, youre doing it because of whose ox is gored."
Al Gore: "When people make decisions like that, sometimes they dont let themselves become aware of how craven the position is and they convince themselves that there is some legitimate doubt about what the truth really is. In the book and in the movie I quote Upton Sinclair who wrote 100 years ago, it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon him not understanding. And I think that in a sense, Bush and Cheney are manifestations of a first cousin of that phenomenon."
Charlie Rose: "But theyre never going to run for political office again."
Al Gore: "Well, theyre part of a group that has attained control over the public policy process and the dialogue in America, temporarily."
Charlie Rose: "But do you know anybody who has temporarily tried to have a conversation with the president about this in a way which you would consider an enlightened conversation? Who has the capacity to sit with the president and say you ought to know about this. You ought to see this in a different light and someone who the president would be responsive to, who would listen."
Al Gore: "Yeah, but it hasnt "
Charlie Rose: "And they get the same, I hear you, I believe its a problem, but I dont think its caused by the factors you suggest. And its not as urgent as you say.
Al Gore: "I cant quote him even indirectly because it wasnt, I didnt get. He isnt, he appears to be an incurious person."
Charlie Rose: "Incurious by nature."
Al Gore: "Yeah, I think hes very smart, I dont go with those who say hes not smart, I think hes very smart. But, there is a surprising lack of curiosity about things that most people think would be important if youre someone in office."
Charlie Rose: "And you think this is also true about the decision to go to war?"
Al Gore: "Yeah."
Charlie Rose: "Not curious about the consequences? Not curious about the implications? Not curious about what happens after you topple Saddam?"
Al Gore: "I think in a way, and first of all I think the decision to invade Iraq was the worst strategic mistake in American history."
Charlie Rose: "The worst strategic decision in American history."
Al Gore: "Yeah, General William Odom, a respected former head of one of the intelligence agencies said that also, others have. But I think it came out of a kind of perfect storm of several temptations. Karl Rove saw it as a political opportunity. I think the ideological "
Charlie Rose: "They went to war because it was a political opportunity?"
Al Gore: "Im not saying that there was a direct. Im saying there was a perfect storm where there were several elements that combined."
Charlie Rose: "This is post-9/11?"
Al Gore: "Yeah, I think it started before then."
Charlie Rose: "The idea to look for a reason to invade Iraq?"
Al Gore: "Well, look, I dont want to be heard as oversimplifying this. Im trying to convey a more textured and subtle "
Charlie Rose: "Mindset about a foreign policy."
Right, if you have a commander in chief who doesnt ask hard questions, and who largely accepts the recommendations of influential advisors, like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld and Karl Rove. If the three of them than have different reasons for wanting to do something, but they agree on a recommended policy, then the probing that might uncover the internal inconsistencies doesnt take place."
Charlie Rose: "So do you think the president had an opinion on this when he ran for the presidency?"
Al Gore: "On Iraq? No, I dont think Dick Cheney had told him yet that he was going to invade Iraq." (Don't miss the shot of Charlie laughing.)
He could ask Al Gore the same question.
Pot, Kettle, black. Algore is projecting his own failings on others again.
The man is sick and demented. But I don't know if want him committed to a nice padded room or let him wander the streets with his sandwich-board sign proclaiming "The End is Near"...
Charlie's brush with mortality left him with a brain altered by the ether.
(Somebody run get the straitjackets.)
... These are tranquilizer darts. Now don't do anything foolish. We are here to help you.
(Somebody help me load this thing.)
Steady, fellows. We are your friends...
These 2 loons will be so happy if/when an enemy succeeds in killing millions of Libs/RATS in and around some of our large cities, right? Yep, fraid so. Recall mny of the victims in NYC on 9/11 were probably liberal type thinkers. But the left never missed a step in condemning the USA for the slaughter.
Algore? Who is Algore? Sounds familiar.......
Well, Al, for that matter, I don't think Osama had told either of them yet that he was going to send some of his boys over to play chicken with our office buildings.
Good Lord...the man is a cretin.
Funny how Charlie didn't mention the inconvenient truth that Al's docudrama is a huge bomb.
Actually, I guess taking in $7 million doesn't make it a bomb, since it was just a filmed lecture. Maybe that $7 million will pay the fuel bill on Al's private jet flights around the country to tell us all not to waste fuel.
Mr. Rose, have you stopped beating your wife yet?
I think he was born with an altered brain. He loves playing the roll of an intellectual, but he lacks the intellect to pull it off. He an Al Gore are a good pair...neither are what they would like the public to believe they are. Their dialogue proves that Rose is no intellectual, and Gore doesn't know squat about "Global Warming" or any other subject...he was born with a deficient brain.
If President Bush has need of an "enlighted conversation" with anyone it certainly wouldn't be with "dim bulb" Al Gore.
You crack me up!
Charlie Rose is right where scumbags like him belong - - where nobody sees them.
Funny how this "dialogue" only came to light because somebody went and dug up a transcript.
As with Bill Maher, most people don't seem to grasp that these people have WRITERS and RESEARCHERS. Then they just read what's handed to them. And they love getting in their jackets and ties and getting in front of lights and cameras--"People are LISTENING to me pntificate!"--and playing Intellectual.
What kind of intellectual would be able to stand these two idiots for more than five minutes?
On Iraq? No, I dont think Dick Cheney had told him yet that he was going to invade Iraq.
So Bush is very smart, but very dumb.
Hey, Al, I've got a new project for you. It's not easy, but I just know you are up to the task:
Make even less sense.
Al should ask NASA why there is also warming on Mars.
What's the cause, sir?
Charlie Rose & Al Gore??? That must have been a truly fascinatinzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz,,,,,huh,,,oh, sorry, fell asleep. What was I saying??
Were they fondling each other during this exchange?
Al, lets be honest, 15 minutes after George Bush leaves the Oval Office, regardless of whose elected, America is going to have a different global warming policy, we know that. And I think Exxon-Mobil knows it."
I don't know about Exxon-Mobil, but I do believe that the next President is going to get us back into that crazy Kyoto stuff again. What a waste of money. IMHO.
"Dude, quite bogarding that enlightenment and pass it here!
Mr. Gore, since you have been aware for many years of the looming disaster that is Global Warming®, why is it that the Clinton Administration did so little to promote the ratification of the Kyoto Accords?
"Why does Siddhartha Bush Sab resist enlightened conversation?"
Unlike Gore, he's got a day job.
Why can't Al Gore, and Bill Clinton for that matter, just go off and retire instead of constantly flappin' their big yap everyday?
Oh, I forgot, they're Democrats.
Of course there's a million things to say about this stupid interview. I'll just pick one:
The Iraqi military was shooting at US planes on a regular basis (every day?) after 1991. That alone was enough reason to invade them.
'Textured and subtle' -- nuanced, flip-flop, lying lib losers. Enormous egos with nowhere to go. Insulting conversations like this between elitist Liberals are why God gave us common sense.
A dinosaur talking to a tree stump.
Yeah, that's enlightening.
why no one is having an "enlightened conversation" with President Bush on global warming.
Has it ever occured to Charlie that George Bush has?
Al, lets be honest, 15 minutes after George Bush leaves the Oval Office, regardless of whose elected, America is going to have a different global warming policy,
No barf alert, I got sick just reading the title.
Al Gore on the Charlie Rose show! The two most boring people on the planet on the same program had to be the extreme of "Must Avoid" TV.
Al Gore is out of his mind to use that quote, since it describes the Global Warming Industry so perfectly.
I'm sure the 200 brie and Birkenstock liberals who actually watched Charlie Rose that night were amused and probably celebrated by opening a bottle of organically grown, free traded and environmentaly friendly manufactured tofu wine and carefully recycled the bottle afterward.
||We don't need to know where they recycled the bottle...|
The media is full of intellectuals manque. Bill Moyers is another prime example.
Ummmm... Maybe Bush doesn't like iced tea???
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