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Feds: Home-Grown Terror Plot Foiled (LINK TO FEDERAL INDICTMENT DOCUMENT)
CBS NEWS ^

Posted on 06/23/2006 6:42:27 AM PDT by markedmannerf

A group of young men seized in a Miami warehouse have been charged in a federal indictment with conspiring with al Qaeda to commit acts of violence in the United States, including blowing up Chicago's Sears Tower.

The seven individuals indicted by a federal grand jury were taken into custody Thursday when authorities swarmed the warehouse in the Liberty City area, removing a metal door with a blow torch. The indictment also alleges plans to blow a federal building in Miami in conjunction with the al Qaeda terrorist network.

According to the indictment handed up Thursday, a young man identified as Narseal Batiste, beginning in November 2005, recruited and trained the others "for a mission to wage war against the United States government," including a plot to destroy the Sears Tower.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; jihadinamerica; miami; sears; terror; wot
CLICK HERE FOR FEDERAL INDICTMENT DOCUMENT
1 posted on 06/23/2006 6:42:29 AM PDT by markedmannerf
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To: markedmannerf

This is the shameful result of spying on people. How dishonorable of the NSA adminstration and President Bush for spying without public consent or knowledge. Ted Kennedy and Ranger Reid were not even informed. Shameful I say, outrageously shameful. Is this a call for impeachment? Signed,

The Sniveling Liberals, Dummies, and the Daily Kostapo membership.


2 posted on 06/23/2006 6:46:53 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: markedmannerf

Per Judge Napolitano on his radio program this morning, these 7 are associated with a larger group of 33 more. FBI is currently investigating those other 33.


3 posted on 06/23/2006 6:51:46 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: markedmannerf

I noticed that both the FBI and the MSM went to great pains last night to avoid reporting that these goofballs were black muslims until it became blantantly obvious this morning.


4 posted on 06/23/2006 6:52:49 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Liberty City... why would you think otherwise.


5 posted on 06/23/2006 6:56:35 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Again in our back yard....I just heard a guy on the radio..a lib..say "no problem" "no big deal"...what a whiner...they just don't get it that we are at war with a religion....not a country....


6 posted on 06/23/2006 6:58:20 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: TomGuy

Had not heard this 33 number before. Getting bigger isn't it?


7 posted on 06/23/2006 6:59:06 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I wonder when the people of this country are going to wake upto the fact that all muslims are the enemy. We should put them all in concentration camps until this war is over!!


8 posted on 06/23/2006 6:59:16 AM PDT by beermeister (beermeister)
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To: Neoliberalnot
You got that right... the MSM should ask the Liberal Senators if they'd have preferred the authorities didn't know about this plot.

But they won't.

9 posted on 06/23/2006 6:59:24 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,406+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: Neoliberalnot
This is the shameful result of spying on people. How dishonorable of the NSA adminstration and President Bush for spying without public consent or knowledge.

"The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten hold of us. It is better to keep the wolf out of the fold, than to trust to drawing his teeth and talons after he shall have entered." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782.

"The people of every country are the only safe guardians of their own rights, and are the only instruments which can be used for their destruction. And certainly they would never consent to be so used were they not deceived. To avoid this they should be instructed to a certain degree." --Thomas Jefferson to John Wyche, 1809.

"Those who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security." -- Benjamin Franklin
10 posted on 06/23/2006 7:12:58 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: markedmannerf

bookmark


11 posted on 06/23/2006 7:13:38 AM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

They also reported that it was an 'isolated incident' and in no way were these 'homegrown terrorists' associated with Al Qaeda.

Sure changed their tune overnight.


12 posted on 06/23/2006 7:15:04 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I knew they were black muslums when I heard that they wanted to kill all the devils.The muslum converts in our prisons are more racist than the KKK but it's never talked about because they're black.We are lucky that they are uneducated losers.
13 posted on 06/23/2006 7:16:24 AM PDT by peeps36 (Satan Is Tearing Zarqwari A New Ass Right About Now)
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To: Neoliberalnot

The Washington ComPost put this in the LAST page of the section. I kid you not.


14 posted on 06/23/2006 7:18:00 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: Bigh4u2

I've noticed the MSM trying to be "careful" in their reporting, playing "devils advocate" as CNN said today.

Implying that this is no big deal.

Which is fine but:

WHY NOT BE CAREFUL WHEN REPORTING ON MARINE "ATROCITIES"??????

Bastards, the MSM must die.


15 posted on 06/23/2006 7:20:07 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: battlecry

This is exactly why we must continue to expose the duplicitious nature of the Old Media.


16 posted on 06/23/2006 7:23:42 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: roses of sharon
WHY NOT BE CAREFUL WHEN REPORTING ON MARINE "ATROCITIES"??????
What "Atrocities"?
That's the $20,000,000.00 question....
17 posted on 06/23/2006 7:26:26 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle

These were wise men and the quotes are excellent given the context of the times. As times change, enemy tactics change and must by necessity be met with different approaches.


18 posted on 06/23/2006 7:26:30 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: GrandEagle

Exactly, no atrocities have been committed by Marines; the old media however, has committed numerous atrocities by smearing our military. May they rot in Hades.


19 posted on 06/23/2006 7:28:49 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: GrandEagle

Precisely, they are "careful" with terrorist suspects, but not with US soldiers.


20 posted on 06/23/2006 7:29:07 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: peeps36
because they're black

Yeh, it shatters the image they've tried to build over the years. Remember when Chief Moose just couldn't bring himself to look for 2 Black guys? Remember how the MSM were reporting that the 'Black community' just simply did not produce serial killers [oppps, until 2 got captured for serial killing in the Washington, DC area].

This is really going to upset the MSM/Liberal establishment mantra.
21 posted on 06/23/2006 7:34:01 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Neoliberalnot
As times change, enemy tactics change and must by necessity be met with different approaches.
I completely disagree. People blew up things back then. Folks conspired to do what we would call terrorist events back then also.

What the "Department of homeland security", much like the Gestapo and the KGB, wanted is for you to believe that these "men" couldn't have been caught without us relinquishing our freedom. In doing so, we have handed the enemy the victory on a silver platter.

If what you are saying is that the time when men can enjoy liberty is over, then I would rather go down fighting an enemy that I know, rather than having to live being a subject to an oll powerful government
It is not a popular opinion around here I know, but throughout history there has never been a government with total power where the people didn't suffer greatly. Never.

Cordially,
GE
22 posted on 06/23/2006 7:36:31 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Neoliberalnot; roses of sharon
Just sounds like war to me. It is regrettable, but it happens when your enemy hides in with the civilian population and the civilians won't help find them.

GE
23 posted on 06/23/2006 7:39:00 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: roses of sharon

C'mon now.

You want the MSM to be FAIR??

How insenitive of you!/sarc

:0)


24 posted on 06/23/2006 7:44:09 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: GrandEagle

I don't fully discount your comments and clearly am sympathetic with your concerns. I do think though that an enemy that choses to avoid engagement with the military, hides behind women and children, attacks soft targets manned by civilians, requires a change in tactics. I would also mention that much of the same tactics by the NSA were also used in WWII and other wars--it is not a novel approach.

We share much common ground and I would undoubtedly be your ally in a confrontation with tyranny.


25 posted on 06/23/2006 7:48:42 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: peeps36
The muslum converts in our prisons are more racist than the KKK but it's never talked about because they're black.

Very good point.

26 posted on 06/23/2006 7:55:37 AM PDT by Starboard (Liberal superiorists hate the system that allows average people to make more money than they do.)
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To: markedmannerf

AG Gonzales just made an interesting statement:

Two of the 7 were NOT American citizens. One was from Haiti and he didn't have immediate info on the the other.


Wonder is their 'legal' status will be revealed -- are they here on legal visas or are they here illegally?


27 posted on 06/23/2006 7:59:04 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Neoliberalnot
I would also mention that much of the same tactics by the NSA were also used in WWII and other wars--it is not a novel approach.
To some extent, very true. I see a dangerous shift to everything being federal now. Not Federal agents working with locals.
What is also worrisome to me is the general feeling that if you disagree with the "government" on the tactics used, then somehow you have become an enemy of our Nation.
This is a typical thing for governments, but it is very troublesome when the general population begins to take this thought line.
Although I've not studied it in depth, I doubt seriously if even in WWII the federal agents operated with total immunity, answerable only to themselves.

I thank you for your thoughtful response. It is reassuring that there are those who, while I disagree with their view, they are still watching very close.

Cordially,
GE
28 posted on 06/23/2006 7:59:07 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Neoliberalnot
This is the shameful result of spying on people. How dishonorable of the NSA adminstration and President Bush for spying without public consent or knowledge. Ted Kennedy and Ranger Reid were not even informed. Shameful I say, outrageously shameful. Is this a call for impeachment? Signed,

The Sniveling Liberals, Dummies, and the Daily Kostapo membership.


You forgot the most important factor in this arrest - it's racist.
29 posted on 06/23/2006 8:04:01 AM PDT by Republican Red (Everyone is super stoked on Gore. Even if they don't know it)
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To: markedmannerf

Home grown? Al-Qaeda is now considered home grown?


30 posted on 06/23/2006 8:09:01 AM PDT by Element187
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To: Republican Red

My error. I have not come to fully think in the perverted fashion of the sniveling liberal and the race-baiting approach they use as a political sledgehammer was erroneouly omitted.


31 posted on 06/23/2006 8:09:06 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: roses of sharon
Bastards, the MSM must die.

They are dying. The Death of a Thousand Cuts. Ask Dan Rather Biased.

32 posted on 06/23/2006 8:39:36 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: GrandEagle
What the "Department of homeland security", much like the Gestapo and the KGB, wanted is for you to believe that these "men" couldn't have been caught without us relinquishing our freedom. In doing so, we have handed the enemy the victory on a silver platter.

You don't know that these folks telephones were ever bugged. If they called al Qaida operatives outside the country, that would have allowed those conversations to be recorded. However that could be used as a "lead", but evidence obtained directly from the calls could not, as I understand it, be used in their indictment and subsequent trial.

Everyone is jumping to conclusions as to how these guys were exposed. Could just as easily have been a tip from one of the brothers or sisters, who decided they wanted nothing to do with blowing up buildings. Or it could have been a tip from a two bit whore, of which there are plenty in that "community" and in Liberty City.

33 posted on 06/23/2006 9:09:13 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
We meet again my FRiend :)
You are correct, it could have been anything that ended up with their arrest. I don't know; but what I do know is that I am constantly being told that I must give up my Freedom and Liberty of that an LE agency that answers to no one can do their job.
It is prime for abuse. This is the same exact logic used in by the governments of China, the USSR, and other opressive governments to justify their actions. We are not "protecting" our freedom, we are willingly relenguishing it. I object to the total loss of privacy.

As we have discussed before, I could give two hoots and a holler what is tapped, monitored, gathered, "data mined", stopped, searched, or any other thing, when it is coming and going from our Nation to another. That is wise and prudent, and also for that to be used to get a warrant and search for things inside this country - wise and prudent.

Anyway, Got to run for lunch,

have a great day,

GE

I'll check back in when I return.

(smiling) we always seem to clash on this one, don't we?
34 posted on 06/23/2006 9:22:38 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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