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Bush's Immigration Plan Stalled as House G.O.P. Grew Anxious
NY Times ^ | 6/24/06 | Adam Nagourney, Carl Hulse and Jim Rutenberg

Posted on 06/24/2006 2:35:10 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

For the White House, the Congressional picnic last week seemed like the perfect setting to mend strained relations with Republican allies on Capitol Hill: President Bush and his advisers eating taquitos and Mexican confetti rice on the lawn of the White House with Republican Congressional leaders.

But moments before Mr. Bush was to welcome his guests, Speaker J. Dennis Hastert told the president that House Republicans were effectively sidelining — and in the view of some Congressional aides probably killing — what had become Mr. Bush's signature domestic initiative of the year: an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws.

That disappointing news for Mr. Bush signaled the apparent collapse of a carefully orchestrated White House strategy to push a compromise immigration bill through Congress this summer — and in the process invigorate Mr. Bush's second term with a badly needed domestic victory.

The decision by the House leadership to defy the president after he had put so much prestige on the line — including a rare prime-time Oval Office speech for a domestic initiative — amounted to a clear rebuke of the president on an issue that he has long held dear.

An account of the administration's push for the initiative, based on interviews with members of Congress and senior White House and Congressional officials, shows that Mr. Bush's immigration measure was derailed by an overly optimistic assessment by the White House of the prospects for building a bipartisan coalition in support of the bill. It was also hurt by a fundamental misreading of the depth of hostility to the measure among House Republicans.

It was undone as well, White House and Congressional leaders acknowledged, by a sharp division over whether to focus on the short term or on the party's long-term political prospects.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; congress; gwbush; illegalimmigration; immigration; justsaynotoillegals
An attempt for the MSM to build sympathy for GWB's losing cause, this article could have just as easily been titled What Part Of NO! Don't You Understand?
1 posted on 06/24/2006 2:35:12 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Good news! ... where's the champagne?


2 posted on 06/24/2006 2:37:30 PM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: nj26

That must have been enough to give the President a severe case Mexican heart burn!


3 posted on 06/24/2006 2:41:26 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I agree... Lorrie Morgan said it best. When Bush and McCain inevitably revive this losing cause in 2007, perhaps we can attach a copy of her song to all those bricks being sent to Capitol Hill.


4 posted on 06/24/2006 2:42:55 PM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The Conservative crack down continues! The compromise bill is a disaster


5 posted on 06/24/2006 2:43:54 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
So far, House bill HR4437 has trumped Bush`s support for the Senate's amnesty proposal, S2611.

Hopefully that won't change.

6 posted on 06/24/2006 2:44:48 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders; enforce employer sanctions; stop welfare handouts to illegals)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Maybe it's just me, but I'm thinking the White House's choice for the picnic menu probably didn't go over too well with those opposed to his mexicanization of the U.S.

(Taquitos and mexican rice.) Hey! Where's the hamburgers and hot dogs?

7 posted on 06/24/2006 2:50:03 PM PDT by navyblue (at one.)
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To: navyblue

"We Celebrate Diversity". BARF...


8 posted on 06/24/2006 2:52:21 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: navyblue

Heh...


9 posted on 06/24/2006 2:54:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Nothing like getting news on Capitol Hill Republicans... through the kommie-kaleidescope lens of the Slimes.


10 posted on 06/24/2006 3:00:31 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: nj26

Read my lips - or rather - read my tagline.

Sob. Sob, for Bush and the RINO Senate.


11 posted on 06/24/2006 3:00:42 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Marvel at the Senate's No Mexican Left Behind Bill (wit cloned from M. Steyn))
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To: nj26
Good news! ... where's the champagne?

Hopefully this abominable assault on our country will die and stay dead.

12 posted on 06/24/2006 3:05:36 PM PDT by RodgerD (Reject the Democrat's Migration Explosion Act of 2006. No to 70 million new third-world aliens.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
The Times alleges:

It was also hurt by a fundamental misreading of the depth of hostility to the measure among House Republicans.

Actually, it's a "fundamental misreading of the depth of hostility" to illegal immigration among American citizens. But one can't expect the "Newspaper of record" to actually make an attempt to figure out what's going on with this fundamental issue.

13 posted on 06/24/2006 3:08:00 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: navyblue
Maybe it's just me, but I'm thinking the White House's choice for the picnic menu probably didn't go over too well with those opposed to his mexicanization of the U.S.

Don't that just beat all? It was either a dumb idea or sheer arrogance.

... eating taquitos and Mexican confetti rice on the lawn of the White House.

Hopefully they weren't eating it off of the White House lawn.

14 posted on 06/24/2006 3:11:33 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Bush's Immigration Plan Stalled as House G.O.P. Grew Anxious Listened to the American People
15 posted on 06/24/2006 3:13:40 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: navyblue
(Taquitos and mexican rice.) Hey! Where's the hamburgers and hot dogs?

I guess it was a just a job that American food wouldn't do.
16 posted on 06/24/2006 3:17:48 PM PDT by self_evident
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; Soul Seeker; calcowgirl

This NY Times article is either juvenile, or recylcing Rove's latest framing, which naturally they would accept because they uncritically accepted Hagel-Martinez diverted by conservative baiting by Bush and Rove. They're recycling the "anti-Hispanic" angle and the future of the Republican party blah blah.

No real analysis of the Hagel bill. This is an important point to hit. The House Repubs must specify the tax relief, worker programs, wage depression and amnesty specifically. Rove and the MSM are trying to restructure Bush's and Hagel's radical position as moderate.

""But Mr. Bush was criticized by both sides as not taking a public stand on specifics and permitting conservative members of the House to define the debate.""

This is a laugher. Rove, Bush, etc. with supoort of MSM defined it by day one. The NYTimes was a willing participant, this shows how far they will go to lie and miscast the hisotry.

""Aides said the president was trying to stay above the discussion to remain flexible enough to broker a compromise.""

Bulls---. He came out and supported Hagel-Martinez.

We's got a battle.


17 posted on 06/24/2006 3:23:57 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Good work by the house GOP. No bill is better than a bad bill. Stand tough with the senate GOP sellouts


18 posted on 06/24/2006 3:27:46 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: teawithmisswilliams

""But one can't expect the "Newspaper of record" to actually make an attempt to figure out what's going on with this fundamental issue.""

They're reattempting to make the "fundamental issue" "House Republicans." Here the NYTimes acts as a willing partner to the Rove line. They needed three reporters to repeat this stuff?

No analyis of the money behind this bill? The lobbies? Times is a corporate shill.

I hope Hastert, Sensenbrenner and others go public about what they were told, and how they felt betrayed.

MSM will pounce on any seemingly anti-Hispanic claim.


19 posted on 06/24/2006 3:28:40 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Rosemont

""The compromise bill is a disaster""

One of the White House memes is that Hagel-Martinez itself is a compromise bill. I think the NYTimes bit on that spin, but it is silly.

They will settle for the line that Bush would "settle" the issue fairly, standing from a position in the middle. Yet he is on record saying we needed more wage suppressing, unemployment creating guest worker programs.


20 posted on 06/24/2006 3:31:14 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

My Congressman's office told me last week that White House pressure seems to have lessened. Good news, if accurate, from my anti illegal alien viewpoint.


21 posted on 06/24/2006 3:33:49 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Petrosius

Strange...I heard McCain say just the other day that House GOP will pay a price for ignoring the will of the American people on this issue. Where is he getting that from?


22 posted on 06/24/2006 3:37:02 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: DumpsterDiver

I really thought it was a joke until I found out it was true!What on earth were they thinking?


23 posted on 06/24/2006 3:37:35 PM PDT by xarmydog
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To: ncountylee

Mr. Hastert do you think Bush got yours and the voters message.


24 posted on 06/24/2006 3:41:08 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: Shermy
This NY Times article is either juvenile, or recylcing Rove's latest framing, which naturally they would accept because they uncritically accepted Hagel-Martinez diverted by conservative baiting by Bush and Rove. They're recycling the "anti-Hispanic" angle and the future of the Republican party blah blah.

Yep. If anything, immigration is tearing the GOP apart on an issue that could have helped the party greatly. Their attempt to please both groups (conservatives and Hispanics), is alienating them both.
25 posted on 06/24/2006 3:52:56 PM PDT by AntiGovernment (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Same place he gets everything else--the voices inside his head.


26 posted on 06/24/2006 3:58:32 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: LadyNavyVet

Sounds about right.


27 posted on 06/24/2006 4:01:43 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: navyblue

I was thinking the same thing!! George, I suggest a slow smoked bar-b-que on your next picnic with Republicans and some Shiner beer!


28 posted on 06/24/2006 4:41:35 PM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: self_evident

They should have ordered pizza and had it delivered!


29 posted on 06/24/2006 4:43:52 PM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
It was undone as well, White House and Congressional leaders acknowledged, by a sharp division over whether to focus on the short term or on the party's long-term political prospects.

Uh, can you say both, Boss? Holding to the House bill addresses both.

30 posted on 06/24/2006 4:49:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Actually, the sidelining of the amnesty plan is Bush's "Signature domestic victory". Exactly what he wanted, Socalists and RINOs tied to one of the most universally unpopular initiatives and a Republican House with a stiffened spine, doing a number on the Senate traitors.

Strategery strikes again!

31 posted on 06/24/2006 4:54:02 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (ˇSalga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
"I heard McCain say just the other day that House GOP will pay a price for ignoring the will of the American people on this issue."

Yeah, they will...Herr McCain will drop them from his Kwanza Card list!

32 posted on 06/24/2006 4:57:01 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (ˇSalga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

"Mr. Bush's signature domestic initiative of the year: an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws."

Should read: Mr. Bush's signature domestic initiative of the year; 'amnesty for illegal aliens.'


33 posted on 06/24/2006 5:00:36 PM PDT by siznartuf (If I Hear "Jobs Americans Won't Do" One More ^%&^%^%# Time)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Speaker J. Dennis Hastert told the president that House Republicans were effectively sidelining — and in the view of some Congressional aides probably killing — what had become Mr. Bush's signature domestic initiative of the year: an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws.

Good! WTG House Repubicans!!

34 posted on 06/24/2006 5:02:04 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: siznartuf

Finish the wall/pitch 'em all back over!


35 posted on 06/24/2006 5:03:40 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Shermy
We's got a battle.

Yep! Good thing more and more seem to be in the fightin' mood!

36 posted on 06/24/2006 6:59:30 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: All

I would be careful. The political enviornment changes rather quickly in Washington. When the House leadership declares CIRA dead officially, then break out the booze.


37 posted on 06/24/2006 7:22:59 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

This news? was news to Bush?

This is as upset as I've seen the casually political among us in my lifetime. Co-workers who thought they were liberal are now big time anti-illegal.


38 posted on 06/24/2006 7:42:00 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Republican Wildcat

"Strange...I heard McCain say just the other day that House GOP will pay a price for ignoring the will of the American people on this issue."

McCain must have had a senior moment. He meant to say the will of the Senate. Even Frist used that phrase for something a couple of weeks ago. When did the Senate ever give a rat's derrier for "we the people?"


39 posted on 06/24/2006 9:42:50 PM PDT by RR76 (Where have you gone Ronnie, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.)
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To: Sic Luceat Lux

"Finish the wall/pitch 'em all back over!"

How about a catapult just to play it safe?


40 posted on 06/24/2006 9:45:24 PM PDT by RR76 (Where have you gone Ronnie, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
It was also hurt by a fundamental misreading of the depth of hostility to the measure among House Republicans.

...AND most importantly the hostility towards illegal alien amnesty by their constituents, the American People!!!

41 posted on 06/24/2006 9:48:54 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Borders, Language and Culture - You Don't Have These, You Don't Have A Country)
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To: RR76
How about a catapult just to play it safe?

Well, don't want them to get injured, but otherwise, sounds fine with me./ Bttt

42 posted on 06/24/2006 10:02:20 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: navyblue
Maybe it's just me, but I'm thinking the White House's choice for the picnic menu probably didn't go over too well with those opposed to his mexicanization of the U.S.

(Taquitos and mexican rice.) Hey! Where's the hamburgers and hot dogs?

That's the first thing I thought of, too!
Dumb and arrogant!!

43 posted on 06/25/2006 7:17:02 PM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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