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1 posted on 06/25/2006 2:39:17 AM PDT by croak
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To: croak

I think the American voters are going to redeploy some Democrats back to their home districts in November.


2 posted on 06/25/2006 2:47:17 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: croak
Great essay. As usual Steyn hits on all cylinders.
3 posted on 06/25/2006 2:57:28 AM PDT by dancusa (For liberals there is no end to their rights and no beginning to their responsibilities.)
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To: croak

Already posted by yours truly


4 posted on 06/25/2006 3:04:38 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: croak
U.S. can't 'redeploy' its way out of Iraq

Good. Because we're not going to.

Operation Together Forward is working. It's causing a lot of racket right now, because the scum is making a stand, but they're going to end up losing this and that will be yet another big step forward to really hack off the media and the Democrats.

5 posted on 06/25/2006 3:05:29 AM PDT by Allegra (I'm Shizophrenic. No, I'm Not. Yes, I Am. No, I'm NOT. Are TOO. Am NOT.)
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later read


7 posted on 06/25/2006 3:09:16 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE&search=Democrats)
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To: croak

Mark Steyn bump.


8 posted on 06/25/2006 3:12:39 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Striving to obtain liberal victim status.)
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To: croak
Mark Steyn's point is we can't "redeploy" because we are the world's only superpower. America is committed to obligations small countries have the luxury of being able to dodge. Its our credibility on the line as well as our future if we do not win the war on terror and Islamofascism both in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as around the globe. The Defeaticrats, led by the French Poodle Jean Francois Cheri, think America can leave the world to its own devices. Most Americans realize isolationism is an unworkable approach in a world in which great destructiveness can easily follow us to our own shores. 9/11 has been a vivid reminder of what can happen if we are not engaged with the world. We have no choice but to fight til we win the war over our enemny outright. That is our destiny. Americans do not want retreat under any name; they demand victory. The parallels between Vietnam and the current conflict are inaccurate, misleading and mistaken. Its clear the Democrats may not have gotten over the loss of Vietnam but for most Americans 9/11 reminds the defining event that shaped everything we do as a country. What matters in the final analysis is not what the French or the Russians think but what we do to keep our country safe from danger.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

9 posted on 06/25/2006 3:22:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: croak
Funniest Mark Steyn quote: Redeployed Mexicans. I think that'll be the new PC description for illegal aliens if it catches on.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

10 posted on 06/25/2006 3:28:27 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: croak

bookmark


11 posted on 06/25/2006 3:28:44 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Pokey78

ping


12 posted on 06/25/2006 3:30:14 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: croak
The Democratic mid-term platform can be summed up in two words: Lesser France. It does the French Poodle proud he wants America to be as atrophied in its power and as small in its dreams as France. I suspect most Americans don't want our country to become France. Hell no, we don't even want to go there!

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

13 posted on 06/25/2006 3:32:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pokey78

Mark Steyn Alert!!


14 posted on 06/25/2006 3:46:58 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: croak
The real problem of course is the Democrats' emphasis on a collection of domestic programs overlook the fact that without American engagement with the rest of the world, you will have underdeveloped states armed with modern military technology exporting their pathologies to the rest of the planet. That is going to happen whether or not we stay in Iraq. We have to stop that from spreading. But the Democrats don't seem overly concerned for the health of the planet unless its global warming. But the moral health of the planet is a more significant indicator of humanity's survival than whether the temperature rises a couple of degrees in Churchill, Manitoba. In other words, we've got a more serious problem to address. But in their fixation with redeployment, the Democrats have demonstrated above all, they're not a serious party. In an age when national security is our foremost issue. And their platform contains not a single mention of it!

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

15 posted on 06/25/2006 3:47:25 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: croak
John Kerry's Operation Pussy-Out did not get the popular reaction he thought it would. Are American's war weary? Yes. But they probably were even more so during WWII and they managed to stay focused on the war effort and ultimately that support and focus led to our victory.
16 posted on 06/25/2006 3:49:37 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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Mark Steyn makes mention of pipsqueak thug states. Ordinarily, they're not worth paying attention to but armed with weapons of mass destruction, they're capable of killing millions. I stated they're underdeveloped states. Its not their economic inconsequence that makes them a lethal threat; its all that Western military technology they're acquiring that does. And they have to be contained. Not from Washington D.C or anyplace equidistant from Okinawa the Democrats fancy us to redeploy to, but right where they are. That's why everything changed for most Americans right after 9/11. It never changed for Democrats who are still the Party Of 9/10.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

17 posted on 06/25/2006 3:54:19 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: croak

"Redeployed Mexicans"...LOL.


18 posted on 06/25/2006 4:00:08 AM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie (Its the philosophy, stupid.)
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I can't believe it. I hadn't seen this when I posted my C.H.A.D. post.


19 posted on 06/25/2006 4:31:25 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: croak
Steyn's genius is now routine but this article rises even above his normal genius level. His last line sums up the genius of this piece:
In a nonpolar world, there's nowhere to redeploy to.

24 posted on 06/25/2006 5:07:07 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: croak

America is tired of doing all the heavy lifting in this world, but theres no other option


27 posted on 06/25/2006 7:26:41 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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U.S. can't 'redeploy' its way out of Iraq

June 25, 2006

BY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST





Last week John Kerry revealed his plan to "redeploy" U.S. forces from Iraq. This plan is different from fellow Defeaticrat Jack Murtha's plan to "redeploy" U.S. forces from Iraq to Okinawa, which Congressman Murtha seems to think is in the general neighborhood of Iraq. Iraq's in the Middle East, Okinawa's in the Far East: C'mon, how far can it be to get from the Far to the Middle? After all, the distance between the farthest fringe of the kook left and the center of the Democratic Party seems to be closing up every week.



Anyway, Sen. Kerry doesn't want to waste time "redeploying" to Okinawa. When America "redeploys," it's not going to take a connecting flight via Japan and risk its luggage getting "redeployed" to Bratislava. No, sir, in John Kerry's America, we "redeploy" nonstop, straight back to Main Street in time for the Redeployment Day parade.

You gotta hand it to these guys: "Redeployment" is ingenious. I'll bet the focus-group consultants were delirious: "surrender," "lose,","scram," "scuttle ignominiously," "head for the hills" all polled poorly, but "redeploy" surveyed well with all parts of the base, except the base in Okinawa, where they preferred "sayonara" -- that's "redeploy" in any language. The Defeaticrats have a clear message for the American people. Read da ploy: No new quagmires.

This is the most artful example of Leftspeak since they came up with "undocumented immigrant." In fact, if it catches on, I'll bet millions of fine upstanding members of the Undocumented-American community now start referring to themselves as Redeployed Mexicans.

The only teensy-weensy problem is this: If America ever adopts the Kerry plan, the Murtha plan or some variation thereof, does anyone think al-Jazeera, the BBC, Le Monde, Der Spiegel et al will be using the word "redeploy" in their headlines? Or will they use a word closer to what's actually going on?

In a sense, the Democrats have already psychologically redeployed. Last week they unveiled their "New Direction for America." It's a six-point plan, two of whose points are "Cut College Costs" and "Ensure Dignified Retirement." On the first point, it's true the education system remains a problem: Many hardworking Americans are trapped in low-paying dead-end jobs as U.S. congressmen because an inadequate education left them with the impression Okinawa's in the United Arab Emirates. On the second point, I'm all in favor of a "dignified retirement": Why not try it on Kerry as a pilot program? As for the other four points, none has anything to say about national security or foreign policy.

The Defeaticrats' "New Direction for America" foresees a future for this country as a kind of Lesser France. That would be problematic enough: The dependency culture favored by the Dems has mired much of Europe in permanent double-digit unemployment, a moribund economy and unsustainable social programs. Presumably, Nancy Pelosi and Co. would respond by saying that their pledge to "give America a raise" -- i.e., increase the minimum wage -- shows that their party is in tune with real people's real needs rather than a lot of foreign adventuring that's got nothing to do with how real people really lead their really real lives. Sorry, it doesn't work like that. Not even the Democrats can redeploy from the whole planet.

If you were a 5-year-old boy standing in the London streets in 1897 for Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee parade and marveling as the hussars and lancers of the mightiest empire the world had ever known passed before your eyes, it would have seemed inconceivable that you'd be celebrating your 80th birthday in a decrepit ramshackle broken-down strike-bound basket case of a state. Permanence is the illusion of every age. And, if you're interested in a "dignified retirement," you might want to give some thought to the shape of the world the day after tomorrow.

Today, lots of experts crank out analyses positing China as the unstoppable hegemon of the 21st century. But the real threat is not the strengths of your enemies but their weaknesses. China is a weak power: Its population will get old before it gets rich. Russia is a weak power: If Africa has health crises, the Middle East has Islamists and North Korea has nukes, then Russia's got the lot: a dying population whose men have a lower life expectancy than Bangladeshis with a Muslim separatist movement sitting on top of the biggest pile of nukes on the planet. Europe is a weak power, remorselessly evolving month by month into Eurabia.

Islam is a weak power: In the words of Dr. Mahathir Mohammed, the former prime minister of Malaysia, one of the least worst Muslim nations in the world, "We produce practically nothing on our own, we can do almost nothing for ourselves, we cannot even manage our wealth." But in Iran they're working full-speed on nukes that will be able to hit every European city.

North Korea is a weak power: Its population is starving but it's about to "test" the latest variation on its aptly named No Dong missile. I mean "test" in the sense that I test my new shotgun by firing it through your kitchen window. They're going to launch it and see where it comes down -- maybe Tokyo, maybe San Diego; maybe they'll aim for Los Angeles but it'll fall in Vancouver. Hey, that's why we call it a "test," right?

The danger we face is not a Chinese superpower or an Islamist superpower: If it's a new boss, you learn the new rules and adjust as best you can. But the greater likelihood is of a world with no superpower at all in which unipolar geopolitics gives way to nonpolar geopolitics, a world without order in which pipsqueak thug states that can't feed their own people globalize their pathologies. There would be more stories like that one the other day about the three decapitated policemen whose heads were found in the Tijuana River. But Pelosi would carry on talking about college tuition as the world sinks into economic decline, arbitrary bombings and kidnappings, and the occasional nuking.

Kerry gets all huffy if he thinks you're questioning his patriotism, so let's be charitable and assume the Defeaticrats are simply missing the point: For the rest of the world, what's at issue in the Iraq war is not the future of Iraq but the future of America. Can the world's leading nation still lead or is Kerry's Vietnam Syndrome "seared" (as he'd say) into its bones? Luxembourg can be Luxembourg. America doesn't have that option. In a nonpolar world, there's nowhere to redeploy to.


28 posted on 06/25/2006 12:48:20 PM PDT by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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