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It's time for a North American Union
Fort Worth Star Telegram ^ | Jun. 11, 2006 | By STEVEN HILL Special to The Washington Post

Posted on 06/25/2006 6:41:38 AM PDT by baseball_fan

WASHINGTON - Immigration issues are always ripe for demagoguery, particularly in an election year. But the solution to the very real problems along the U.S.-Mexican border can be found, ironically, in that other part of the world that demagogues love to ridicule: old Europe.

Two years ago, the European Union admitted 10 new members. Like Mexico, all of these nations were poor, some of them fairly backward and most recently ravaged by war and dictatorship.

The leaders of the European Union wisely created policies for fostering regional economic and political integration that make the North American Free Trade Agreement "look timid and halfhearted by comparison," according to Bernd Westphal, consul general of Germany.

Europe realized it had to prevent a "giant sucking sound" of businesses and jobs relocating from the 15 wealthier nations to the 10 poorer ones. It also had to foster prosperity and the spread of a middle class and prevent an influx of poor workers to the richer nations.

So for starters, it gave the new states billions in subsidies to help construct schools, roads, telecommunications and housing, thus making these nations more attractive for business investment. It was expensive, but the result has been a larger economic union in which a rising tide floats all boats.

In return, the 10 poorer nations had to agree to raise their standards on the environment, labor law, health and safety -- and more.

Worker migration is regulated. Immigrants will be carefully integrated so as to cause the least disruption to the developed economies, with the goal of having open borders down the road.

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To: Personal Responsibility

Numbers don't have a damn thing to do about it, Personal Responsibility. This is the United States of America, not the North American Union.


21 posted on 06/25/2006 7:04:48 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
The socialists see this as an opportunity to get over 300 million people that they can mold together in a giant social experiment.
History shows that they've already performed their social experiment several times.
Headstones mark their testing grounds.
22 posted on 06/25/2006 7:05:38 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: baseball_fan

Mr. Hill should put down the pipe.


23 posted on 06/25/2006 7:06:16 AM PDT by toddlintown
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To: sgtbono2002
And the only thing we will have to give up is our severeignty. Our identity as a nation.

That's it in a nutshell. Only that pesky little thing we call sovereignty.

24 posted on 06/25/2006 7:06:42 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Depends who they're representing...ya see. When they DON'T move this agenda forward, they're being traitorous to the K Street crowd that bought them their seats.....


25 posted on 06/25/2006 7:07:27 AM PDT by mo
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To: Personal Responsibility

"Mexico has a population around 110,000,000. Canada has a population of 35,000,000 or so (round numbers). We have a population of 295,000,000 (Source for all three: http://www.cia.gov )

How do you figure we are outnumbered?"

If by "we" you mean conservatives, then we would be vastly outnumbered by the left. We would become a liberal, fascist police state overnight. Welcome to the Brave New World.


26 posted on 06/25/2006 7:09:35 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: baseball_fan; All
Here's what I could find quickly:

North America’s SuperCorridor {Immigration Reform will never happen}
 
The Death of Three Nations--good news for Mexicans, but very bad news for everyone else.
 
Tancredo confronts 'super-state' effort--"Tancredo confronts
'super-state' effort
Demands full disclosure of White House work with Mexico, Canada"
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50657
 
The North American Union "matrix"
 
U.S., Mexico, Canada officials laud ties
 
The North American Union "matrix"--Back in 2004, I published The Real Matrix, in seven parts (read them here).

THE REAL MATRIX
By Steven Yates

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7

And then: US divided by superhighway plan--A MASSIVE road four football fields wide and running from Mexico to Canada through the heartland of the United States...
 
The North American Union is on its way.
It's all spelled out in this report:

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf
 
North American Leaders Unveil Security and Prosperity Partnership (North American Superstate)
 
Related:

Political Correctness — The Revenge of Marxism Fjordman: The Revenge of Marxism

http://sixthcolumn.blogspot.com/2006/06/trans-texas-corridor-of-north-american.html

Trans-Texas Corridor of the North American Union
Check out this WND report by Jerome Corsi that describes the route for the 12-lane highway that is a part of the North American Union...The NAFTA Super Corridor will be constructed largely by private companies that intend to operate the new I-35 as a toll road. North America's SuperCorridor Coalition Inc., or NASCO...

Corsi files FOIA request to expose plans for 'North American union'

27 posted on 06/25/2006 7:14:28 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: SVTCobra03

Just wait, Bush's one world order supporters will arrive and show us the error of our way for not supporting his dream.


28 posted on 06/25/2006 7:15:33 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: baseball_fan

Someone should check the author's income. Bet you will find
something from the "One World" group.
Oh BTW--If this goes through, he is going to have to learn Spanish (Mexico) and French(Ontario, Canada)


29 posted on 06/25/2006 7:16:29 AM PDT by radar101 (The two hallmarks of Liberals: Fantasy and Hypocrisy)
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To: cripplecreek
We are not outnumbered. Our population just hit 300,000,000 and Mexico and Canada put together don't even equal half of that.

When you look at it in terms of wealth (GDP per capita), it isn't even a contest. The United States is the big gorilla on this hemisphere and nobody else even comes close to us.

Guys, we have to open our minds a little and consider the benefits of uniting at least North America into a single economic bloc. There are vast amounts of natural resources and potential wealth in both Canada and Mexico that will ensure that the United States is the powerhouse of the world for generations to come. It would be stupid of us to cast this all aside in the name of "sovereinity"

And who says we have to give up any sovereinity at all? Our intent should be to integrate Canada and Mexico into the United States by admitting them as states. Naturally, they would have to go through a period of territory status and they would have to adopt the U.S. Constitution and meet all other requirements before being admitted.

Now Canada is a lot closer to this reality than Mexico. We could conceivably begin admitting Canadian provinces as states within 10-20 years if we start the process now. Mexico would obviously take a lot longer as they are more of a mess. Also, don't forget the Central American countries such as El Salvador and Panama as well as islands such as Cuba, Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic. All of these should eventually become U.S. states so that the USA stretches from the North Pole to the Panama canal.

In the meantime, we need to integrate our economies to a certain extent so that the other countries in North America can begin to prosper and put themselves in position to become U.S. states eventually.

I'm an imperialist at heart and I do not believe the United States should ever stop expanding and admitting states.

30 posted on 06/25/2006 7:20:39 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I think Randy Travis must be paying his bills on home computer by now)
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To: SVTCobra03

If I may add my .02:

I think it's the belief of MOST of the folks on this board that, if it came right down to it, there are enough conservatives in this country...ARMED conservatives...who would take to the streets and start American Revolution Pt. 2 if something like that ever happened.

Now, am I advocating going out and shooting fellow Americans? By no means! What I _am_ saying is this: In order to maintain our nation's sovereignty, if it comes down to it, that in a WAR you have to do what you have to do. If the gov't. keeps going the way it appars they're going, then war is inevitable.


31 posted on 06/25/2006 7:23:15 AM PDT by hoagy62 (America: SUPREME!)
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To: radar101

The big difference is that counries applied for EU membership because they wanted to join. Neither Canada or Mexico want to join the US. And we don't want them.


32 posted on 06/25/2006 7:23:42 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: SamAdams76
Our intent should be to integrate Canada and Mexico into the United States by admitting them as states.

That's a horrible idea. Do you know how much it would cost to bring Mexico up to a decent level of income per person? It would dwarf the money West Germany spent on East Germany. And the East Germans spoke the same language and were educated.

Making Mexico a state would quickly bankrupt us. No thanks!

33 posted on 06/25/2006 7:24:36 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: SVTCobra03

Oh..yeah..ideologically we would certainly be outnumbered if we partner up with any country besides Austrailia!


34 posted on 06/25/2006 7:28:40 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: baseball_fan

Another article in the ongoing campaign of the elites to avoid facing the reality that Mexico is a failed state and will have to stop exporting its poverty to us and deal with ita problems of corruption and dictatorial tendencies before any of these grandiose schemes have even a prayer of working.


35 posted on 06/25/2006 7:31:02 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: baseball_fan
A bit on down in the article:

It would start with massive subsidies from the United States to Mexico, a Tex-Mex Marshall Plan, with the goal of decreasing disparities on the Mexican side of the border and fostering a climate riper for investment.

I don't want to dump U.S. taxpayer money into improving Mexico.

Such entitlements haven't worked in the U.S., and a "Great Society II" program south of the border strikes me as socialist nonsense of the first water.

36 posted on 06/25/2006 7:31:24 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: hinckley buzzard

> The missing piece in this adolescent daydream is that the EU has essentially failed to do all those wonderful things this einstein credits them for.

Hasn't been sucessful everywhere yet - plus I'm far from cheering for the bureaucrat NWO they try installing over our heads - but Ireland's a good example that the development policy actually works.


37 posted on 06/25/2006 7:31:33 AM PDT by Schweinhund
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To: pbrown

I agree with that, and agree that it destroys our sovreignty. This would also put the socialists in the south and loony lefties in the north on an even playing field to determine what happens in between. I think I dislike that the most.

I was just pointing out that we are not "outnumbered" by Can / Mex population wise. The only "We" that would be outnumbered is us, the FR inhabitants.


38 posted on 06/25/2006 7:32:37 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: cripplecreek

? At one time, we were the greatest nation in the world. Now we have to mesh? Uh, NO, and HELL NO. Why the heck are you giving up?


39 posted on 06/25/2006 7:33:42 AM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Schweinhund
but Ireland's a good example that the development policy actually works.

Isn't Ireland's success due to their very low tax rates? Rates which the rest of the EU wants them to hike.

40 posted on 06/25/2006 7:34:41 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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