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Editorial: Recidivism(Schwarzenegger makes another left turn.)
Orange County Register ^ | June 25, 2006 | staff

Posted on 06/25/2006 4:38:20 PM PDT by kellynla

One of the most promising developments early on in the Schwarzenegger administration was the new governor's willingness to tackle the issue of prison reform – especially in the wake of Gov. Gray Davis' administration, which acted like a wholly owned subsidiary of the ham-fisted state prison guards union.

The prison guards, which pumped enormous contributions into Gov. Davis' campaign, received oversized pay hikes and were given undue power over the correctional system, where a code of silence among guards made it impossible to root out abuse and corruption. Under Gov. Schwarzenegger, the state proposed wide-ranging and sensible reforms.

But as with most good proposals from this governor, they have been quickly thrown out the window at the first sign of resistance. The governor has backed away from most of his sensible proposals, from pension reform to blowing up the boxes of state government.

Following the defeat of a series of reform initiatives in November, the governor has swung sharply to the left and, according to critics, is running an administration that is becoming indistinguishable from his predecessor's. So why should the issue of prison reform be any different?

Last week, a federal court-appointed watchdog slammed the administration for backing away from reforms and called on wider federal control of the California prison system. The special master, John Hagar, pinned the blame on the governor's new Democratic chief of staff, Susan Kennedy, who was a cabinet officer for Gray Davis. Mr. Hagar accuses the administration of jeopardizing the court's reform plan and quietly purging independent reform-minded leaders from the prison agency. "Following the appointment of Susan Kennedy as the governor's chief of staff ..., a series of disturbing developments have taken place which signal a return to the prior Davis administration's practice of allowing the CCPOA [California Correctional Peace Officers Association]

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: calprisons; ccpoa; itsarnoldorangelides; joinarnold; prisons; reelection; rinold; schwarzenegger; zerosumgame
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It's ironic that the governor, who promised to save California from Gray Davis, has lately been following the Davis playbook.
Nothing "ironic", the only difference in this clown and the Dimwit Davis is that this clown has a "R" after his name. Hope all you RINOld fan club members are happy.
1 posted on 06/25/2006 4:38:24 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge
ping

RINOld has also reneged sending the CA NG to the border. Guess we know who wears the pants in this family...
2 posted on 06/25/2006 4:41:10 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Arnold has never disappointed me, as I never held any hope in him.


3 posted on 06/25/2006 4:43:47 PM PDT by appleharvey
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To: kellynla
Seek to harm and harm shall find you

A Wolf found great difficulty in getting at the sheep owing to the vigilance of the shepherd and his dogs. One day he found the skin of a sheep that had been flayed, put it on over its own pelt, and strolled down among the sheep. For a time he succeeded in deceiving the sheep, and enjoying hearty meals; but the shepherd happened upon him resting and killed him.

4 posted on 06/25/2006 4:52:29 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RAT party is still Stuck on Stupid)
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To: appleharvey
yea, well for those who actually live in CA and pay taxes here,
the worst part about it is that in all likelihood we're gonna haved this clown for another 4 years...
I almost wish he wouldn't be reelected, at least we wouldn't be embarrassed by his incompetence and could elect a true blue conservative in 2010, Tom McClintock!
5 posted on 06/25/2006 4:54:33 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Can the author of the article cite any evidence of abuse and corruption or just make the charge.


6 posted on 06/25/2006 4:57:17 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: kellynla

And hey look at this way, you'll get some of AZ finest correctional officers because you pay three times the salary we do.


7 posted on 06/25/2006 4:58:14 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: kellynla

Rinold is not going to win this time. Bet on it.


8 posted on 06/25/2006 4:58:19 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RAT party is still Stuck on Stupid)
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To: John Lenin

Yes he will. You think the CA people are going to vote for a really lefty for Gov?


9 posted on 06/25/2006 4:58:52 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

Yes I do. I have picked all the correct winners of the preidency my whole life.


10 posted on 06/25/2006 5:00:16 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RAT party is still Stuck on Stupid)
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To: kellynla

Arnold has done a number of things that have left me perplexed.One thing I never understood was Arnolds rationale for for(re)hiring an outspoken democrat like Susan Kennedy who had also worked for Gray Davis.What was the point?I don't follow Cal politics,but that must have alienated a lot of republicans.


11 posted on 06/25/2006 5:01:57 PM PDT by Thombo2
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To: marajade

Name a group Rinold has not offended ?


12 posted on 06/25/2006 5:02:24 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RAT party is still Stuck on Stupid)
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To: marajade

If you unaware of the corruption you can start here,
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/v-print/story/8109956p-9042158c.html

Any further research will be left up to you as I'm busy here but google is available.


13 posted on 06/25/2006 5:04:30 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: John Lenin

Are you a CA resident? Arnold is gonna win. The Dem's candidate is too much of a lefty.


14 posted on 06/25/2006 5:05:05 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: John Lenin

You're so offended that you'd rather have a real lefty instead of a kinda sorta lefty as Gov?

You think the CA budget's are bad now. Elect his Dem counterpart and you'll really be paying the taxes.


15 posted on 06/25/2006 5:06:23 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

I live in So Cal. No way I'm voting for this poser. My theory is give the RATS the rope to hang themselves.


16 posted on 06/25/2006 5:07:37 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RAT party is still Stuck on Stupid)
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To: kellynla

Seems to me by reading the article that the two biggie problems are now former problems. And what's wrong with the feds doing their thing? Even we had to consent to a number of thingies to fix the AZ Dept of Juvenile Corrections and it turned out to be a good thing.


17 posted on 06/25/2006 5:09:14 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Thombo2

what's "perplexing"...he's an ass in an elephant costume.


18 posted on 06/25/2006 5:09:19 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: marajade

He blew the opportunity of a lifetime to change things in this state. He is a complete failure on so many levels.


19 posted on 06/25/2006 5:10:09 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RAT party is still Stuck on Stupid)
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To: John Lenin

Your theory is stupidity. How long do you plan on living in CA after the Dems take charge and when you can't pay the taxes on your mortgage?


20 posted on 06/25/2006 5:10:46 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: John Lenin

What opportunity was that? With the kind of legislature that CA has your lucky he's been able to do what he has.


21 posted on 06/25/2006 5:11:34 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

I'm voting Angelides. No need for us to talk anymore.


22 posted on 06/25/2006 5:13:32 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RAT party is still Stuck on Stupid)
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To: kellynla
RINOld has also reneged sending the CA NG to the border. Guess we know who wears the pants in this family...

That is not true, he sent 1000 Cal NG to the California border. The only thing he refused to do was send 1500 Cal NG to the Arizona/NM/Texas border. Thre were a lot of hysterical headlines, but it is a fair decision. I'm not defending his other leftist turns, but let's not make stuff up.
23 posted on 06/25/2006 5:13:52 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: marajade

let us know when you move to CA
it the meantime, keep your personal "stupidity" attacks to yourself, you of all people calling anyone "stupid" is rich.


24 posted on 06/25/2006 5:14:30 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: John Lenin

Have a lot of money for lots more taxes do you? Then go right ahead.


25 posted on 06/25/2006 5:14:51 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: kellynla

For some unknown reason you keep forgetting I was born there and lived 28 years of my life there. And you keep forgetting I still have lots and lots of family who still lives there.

For their sakes I hope Arnold wins.


26 posted on 06/25/2006 5:17:38 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

My vote is not going to change the fact that Rinold is going to lose.


27 posted on 06/25/2006 5:18:02 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RAT party is still Stuck on Stupid)
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To: John Lenin

We'll see.


28 posted on 06/25/2006 5:18:51 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: kellynla

If Hillary gets the Dem nomination, you vote Hillary.


29 posted on 06/25/2006 5:20:10 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: kellynla

"He's an ass in an elephant costume."I think Arnolds career in politics is going to be brief.


30 posted on 06/25/2006 5:20:12 PM PDT by Thombo2
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To: Thombo2

I hope Arnold runs against Boxer and gets her the heck out of the Senate. No other Republican can do that but him.


31 posted on 06/25/2006 5:21:12 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: MrShoop

"he sent 1000 Cal NG to the California border."

steak dinner at the Palms says they aren't there yet!


32 posted on 06/25/2006 5:23:01 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla; MrShoop

It must really suck to have to lie in posts just for you to try and make a point.


33 posted on 06/25/2006 5:24:11 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

I couldn't care less where you were born,
bottom line is YOU AREN'T HERE NOW!

and for someone who doesn't know about the corruption in the prison system, you have no business calling anyone "stupid!"


34 posted on 06/25/2006 5:25:37 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Schwarzfinger. Fortunately, James Bond in his wisdom as a founding father rendered him ineligible for the office of president when Austrian weightlifters were specifically excluded from the American presidency.


35 posted on 06/25/2006 5:27:30 PM PDT by mathurine (ua)
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To: kellynla

You vote Dem and see if the corruption stops.


36 posted on 06/25/2006 5:30:49 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

"lie in posts"

lie? what lie?

you come on a thread, you don't know the facts regarding the thread and then you have the unmitigated nerve to post personal attacks...

take your flame baiting posts elsewhere


37 posted on 06/25/2006 5:34:17 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
steak dinner at the Palms says they aren't there yet!

I like my steak medium rare. Private message me and we can meet atr the Palm for my Steak. :)

See this story in San Diego Union Tribune; the deployment started on June 18:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060618/news_1n18border.html
38 posted on 06/25/2006 5:35:42 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: John Lenin
"A Wolf found great difficulty in getting at the sheep owing to the vigilance of the shepherd and his dogs. One day he found the skin of a sheep that had been flayed, put it on over its own pelt, and strolled down among the sheep. For a time he succeeded in deceiving the sheep, and enjoying hearty meals; but the shepherd happened upon him resting and killed him."

Right on target with your parable!!Doubt whether Ahrnie will understand until too late.

39 posted on 06/25/2006 5:38:56 PM PDT by fuzzthatwuz
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To: fuzzthatwuz

I read that and have to laugh my butt off. By the end of the campaign I predict Rinold will be more democrat than Angeleides himself. It's going to be fun to watch so called conservatives eat up the garbage coming out of his mouth.


40 posted on 06/25/2006 5:48:18 PM PDT by John Lenin (The RAT party is still Stuck on Stupid)
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To: MrShoop

you're a little quick on the draw there...
no where in the article you posted does it say there are 1000 CA NG on the border.

It does say
"California does not expect to have National Guard troops at Border Patrol stations until mid-July,"

"steak dinner at the Palms says they aren't there yet!"

thanks for proving my point...now about that steak!


41 posted on 06/25/2006 5:52:05 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: MrShoop; kellynla

Looks like you win, Kelly! They ain't all there!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-national-guard,1,2727706.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

California has committed to putting 1,000 troops on the border by July 31 and has 250 there already.


42 posted on 06/25/2006 5:52:50 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Remember a few yrs back whe the people wanted the category in voting of casting a vote for none of the above? You guessed it. It wasn't allowed. Too bad. Here's is another perfect example of "none of the above" winning.


43 posted on 06/25/2006 6:09:54 PM PDT by Digger
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To: kellynla
How does that amount to Arnold reneging on his promise to the President?
44 posted on 06/25/2006 6:35:06 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop

hey, you saw the bet...
now are you gonna honor it?


45 posted on 06/25/2006 6:46:22 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Seems to me the real problem is the intrusion of federal courts into our nation's prisons. Note that in the article, is the portion about "prisoners civil rights". Give me a damned break already, prisoners today have it much better than prisoners did in the 1960s, back when we ran prisons like they were supposed to be run. Then the federal government and the Warren Court basically told us we couldn't treat criminals like criminals anymore.


46 posted on 06/25/2006 6:52:42 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (6-6-06 A victory for reason)
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To: kellynla; All
RINOld has also reneged sending the CA NG to the border.

BULLCRAP.

The FACTS: there have been over 200 CA NG on the border before Bush said a word about it. Arnold has authorized 1,000 CA NG on the border. He's adding more each week until they're all in place by the end of July.

What he was refused to do is to send a further 1500 CA NG beyond that 1000 as the White House desired.

47 posted on 06/26/2006 12:21:18 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace higher taxes with Angelides.)
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To: newzjunkey

your boy is sounding more like Kerry every day...
"I was for troops on the border before I was against them."



"BULLCRAP?"
do us all a favor and wash out your mouth this morning...


48 posted on 06/26/2006 6:11:52 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: appleharvey

Art Olivier, the Libertarian for Governor, will privatize the prison guards. http://www.electArt.com


49 posted on 06/26/2006 6:18:54 AM PDT by MertK9
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To: newzjunkey
Which action by the Gov do you think has the greatest effect on promoting or discouraging illegal immigration; sending a few unarmed troops to the border or telling the billions on underprivileged people in the world that “If they are here legally or illegally, every child should have the right to some health care, and the schooling and so on.”
50 posted on 06/26/2006 6:29:35 AM PDT by MertK9
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