Skip to comments.Was Saddam Regime a Broker for Terror Alliances?
Posted on 06/25/2006 5:55:24 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
Newly declassified documents captured by U.S. forces indicate that Saddam Hussein's inner circle not only actively reached out to the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan and terror-based jihadists in the region, but also hosted discussions with a known Al Qaeda operative about creating jihad training "centers," possibly in Baghdad.
Ray Robison, a former member of the CIA-directed Iraq Survey Group (ISG), supervised a group of linguists to analyze, archive and exploit the hundreds of captured documents and materials of Saddam's regime.
This is the final installment in a three-part series concerning a notebook kept by an Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) agent called Khaled Abd El Majid, and covers events taking place in 1999. The translation is provided by Robison's associate, known here as Sammi.
The first two translations from this notebook detailed an agreement between members of the Saddam regime and the Taliban to establish diplomatic and intelligence based cooperation. This final translation further advances the link between the Saddam regime and world-wide Islamic Jihad terrorism.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Worth a look.
Thought you might find this of interest.
'Bout time this comes out.
Really bad couple of weeks for Democrats.
Looks like all they have left about why we attacked Iraq is "for the oil."
Thank you so much for remembering my intense interest in this, Jet. I appreciate it.
Ikez - you will want to look at this.
Saddam Regime Document: Iraqi Intelligence met with Bin Laden in 1995 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1600579/posts
March 2001 Document: Saddam Regime Recruits Suicide Terrorists to Hit US Interests http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1610012/posts
2003 Document: Saddam Ordered To Treat The Arab Feedayeen Terrorists The Same As Iraqi Soldiers http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1618519/posts
Document: Iraqi Intelligence To Train Arab Feedayeen Terrorists In the Year 2000 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1617431/posts
Document: Saddam Regime Training and Using Foreign Arab Terrorists As Suicide Bombers. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1600367/posts
Document: Afghani Taliban Consul Spoke of a Relationship Between Iraq and Bin Laden http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1597459/posts
Document: Zarqawi in Iraq Long Before the War Started http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1598259/posts
March 2002 Document: Saddam Ordered 25,000 Dollars for Each Suicide Terrorist Against Israel http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1602317/posts
2003 Document: Iraqi Intelligence Asks Hamas To Conduct Terrorist Attacks Against The US. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1607915/posts
Bad month to be a liberal.
Yet another one.
Nope they cant use oil either. With oil prices as high as they are, folks are starting to warm to the idea of war for oil :-)
Have you emailed Ray Robison with your translations?
"The author welcomes your comment on the translation and analysis of this document. You can contact Ray Robison by emailing him at: firstname.lastname@example.org."
Ah...but the dems keep saying there is NO link between Saddam and al-queda before we invaded Iraq.../sarc.
Here's your daily terrorist roundup
Thanks AV, great pictures :)
Samarra, Ramadi and Salman Pak
Sound about right jv?
Thank you for putting those links all in one place. This week I'll update my list of Saddam/Al Qaeda contacts going back to the 90's.
Thanks for the ping, SE Mom. I'll add this to my list when I update it this week.
We have freepers doing enormously important work!
Thanks to all contributors.
Don't forget that the al Qaeda actively sought WMD from Iraq and worked hard on getting them from Iraq, (9-11 commission)
the desire for a relationship came from BOTH sides, i will have more on this within a week or two
Thanks for the PING Peach. This story is going to get bigger.
I hope Brit or John Gibson brings Ray on their show.
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Thanks to the commenter from LGF who recommended my site to FARK...wow.
Didn't have the ability to respond to the critics since my commenting abilities won't be activated until tomorrow but it sure was nice reading the moonbats twisting.
Lets just say that the objections of the moonbats were easy to refute.
If you are interested in that sort of article this one might be amusing as well.
Putting a new site together at www.pierrelegrand.ne... it is not ready yet but you can look around if you want.
At least FNC is publishing this. I wish others in the MSM would do this too instead of trying to bring down Bush43.
It's starting to really pile up ....
Is the Pope German?
That's what I've heard. Only one per plane knew of the actual plan.
I understand how one trained in flight schools could have flew into the planes into the buildings and that Iraq didnt have much of an Air Force to begin with (my questions about the Iraqi Air Force were sarcastic). One of the arguments with resect to 911 is that these manuevers were hard for even experienced pilots and here you have guys wh attended flight schools supposedly doing advance maneuvers.
The important question remains with respect to this memo in that it requests volunteers in the Iraqi Air Force for a suicide mission 6 months before 9/11. The only air-oriented suicide attack after that memo is 9/11. Sure, it's coincidental but we have US memos also "predicting" hijackings before 911. Conspiracy theorists use these to say our govt knew that 911 was to occur. This is a memo from Iraq requesting what I would assume to be pilots from the Iraqi Air Force to perform a suicide mission six months before 9/11 - then 9/11 occurs. Call me wacky, but its looks somewhat suspicious to me!
I think anyone with some sense of logic would look at Saddam for possible connections with terror attacks against the U.S. and these memos confirm that Saddam at the least supported attacks against us, if not 911, he had intentions to perform terrorism against the U.S.
What really sucks is that the MSM media now puts Iraq's WMD and terror ties in the UFO category, whoever continues to claim prove any of the two are real, they are subjectd to ridicule in the MSM.
I just remembered Stephen Hayes' interview on the Jon Stewart show where Hayes was flat out disrespected. Jon Stewart bascially laughed at Hayes as if he was investigating the Loch Ness monster and called the book a bunch of BS. I remember someone telling me that these TV interviews are actually scripted to a specific point of view, which in this case was that Saddam had no WMD or ties to Al Queda.
I think so. Supporting terrorist plots would give Saddam a way of hitting back at the U.S., while maintaining "plausible deniability".
Context for 1999 meetings mentioned between IIS agents and a Taliban/al Qaeda representative as written about in Ray Robinsons FOXNews.com piece.
To better judge the context and validity of the IIS documents translated for Ray Robinson's FOXNews.com piece, a review of open source information relating to both Iraqs and al Qaedas situations in 1998 and 1999 is helpful. Particularly, was there a need for cooperation between the two sides and what other geopolitical concerns did al Qaeda and Iraq have at the time?
Although the most recent document deals with events in 1999, it is necessary to go back to 1998 to review events leading up that point.
In early 1998, Iraqs state sponsored terror proxies were still weak from being dismantled in many countries during the Gulf War and Clinton-ordered U.S. air strikes on IIS headquarters in retaliation for the attempted assassination of George H.W. Bush in 1993. David E. Kaplan, Bruce B. Auster and Douglas Pasternak, USNews & World Report, 3-2-98
Simultaneously, Iraqs terror proxies such as Abu Nidals group and others had been weakened by infighting and some had become inactive since the first Gulf war. (David E. Kaplan, Bruce B. Auster and Douglas Pasternak, USNews & World Report, 3-2-98) Despite these setbacks the State Departments annual report on State Sponsors of terrorism still noted that Iraq was actively seeking to rebuild that terrorist infrastructure ("What did Iraq's State Sponsored Terrorism look like during the 1990's?"). But with their previous means of sponsoring terror visibly weakened, might they seek new avenues and new means of rebuilding that infrastructure, as the State reports indicated.
In August, 1998, U.S. embassies were attacked by al Qaeda killing hundreds. U.S. air strikes target Osama bin Ladens position in Afghanistan and put pressure on Taliban. CNN, August 20,1998 At a time when al Qaeda was successfully attacking American interests and Iraq was seeking help rebuilding its international terrorist infrastructure, its appears that a common interest was in place between the two sides (if it hadnt existed already).
The middle of 1998 also saw reports of Osama bin Laden asking Saddam Hussein for asylum through his Sudanese contacts. This may have been related to differences with the Taliban and international pressures on the Taliban at the time for hosting terrorists. (Its later reported that Saddam Hussein had offered Osama bin Laden asylum in Iraq through Farouk Hijazi. Osama bin Laden apparently overcame any differences with the Taliban and thus never needed to boogie to Baghdad.) ABC News, 1-14-99
December 16, 1998 - Operation Desert Fox Iraq bombed for not complying with UN resolutions regarding WMD inspections CNN, 12-16-1998
December 17th or 18th, 1998 Ayman al-Zawahiri condemns U.S. attacks on Iraq Scott Malensek, Accuracy in Media, 3-9-06
December 21, 1998 - Iraq offers asylum to bin Laden during meeting with Farouk Hijazi TIME, NEWSWEEK, 9-11 COMMISSION, ABC News and others report that Iraq invited bin Laden to move his headquarters to Iraq. Scott Malensek, Accuracy in Media, 3-9-06
December 1998 Bin Laden/Farouk Hijazi meetings includes agreement by both sides to unleash anti-American terror war, this story is reported years before the Uday Hussein Heroes attack document, regarding terror attacks in Europe, is made public (more on this below) Yossef Bodansky, "Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War On America", p.361
December 22, 26 - 1998 Osama bin Laden condemns U.S. air strikes on Iraq in interview with Peter Arnett Scott Malensek, Accuracy in Media, 3-9-06 Stephen Hayes & Thomas Joscelyn, Weekly Standard, 7-18-05
February 1999 - Newsweek reports that Saddam Hussein was working to enlist Osama bin Laden to help rebuild his terrorist infrastructure, which had been badly damaged during the Gulf War and Clinton air strikes (more details on the damage and rebuilding efforts of Saddam Husseins international terrorist infrastructure during the 90s is available here, per State Dept. reports)
"Newsweek also reported that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein has been making new overtures to bin Laden in an attempt to rebuild his intelligence network and to create his own terror network." - United Press International (3 Jan 1999)
February 17, 1999 - AFP reports that Saddam Hussein is hoping to use bin Laden to carry out terrorist attacks against Western interests, particularly in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia FrontPage Magazine, July 14, 2003
February 1999 - U.S. intelligence community receives report that Iraq has formed a suicide pilot unit that it planned to use against British and U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf. (this report was disregarded as disinformation though by this time the 9-11 plot, involving suicide pilots, was now well in the works by al Qaeda) Eleanor Hill Staff Director, Joint Inquiry Staff Statement to Joint House/Senate Intelligence Committees, Part I, 9-18-02
Rays story details documents from a March, 1999 meeting between an al Qaeda/Taliban representative and Iraqi officials. (Ray Robinson, FOXNews.com, 6-26-06)
This story fits into a time period in which mainstream media reports indicate numerous terror plots were in motion (9-11, Millenium plot, etc.), meetings between Iraqi officials and al Qaeda members were taking place and an apparent convergence of anti-Western interests was taking place.
A May, 1999 IIS document reveals that Uday Hussein had documented plans for martyrdom terror attacks in Europe, this document was recovered post-war Iraq. Whether or not these planned attacks had anything to do with the reported meetings with al Qaeda remains to be seen. Kevin Woods, James Lacey, Williamson Murray, Foreign Affairs, May/June 2006
Other postwar Iraqi documents suggest that Algerian/Sudanese terrorists were being trained in Samarra, Ramadi and Salman Pak terror camps in 1999. If these documents are accurate, were these Sudanese terrorists al Qaeda affiliates? The answer of who these men were likely lies in the mountain of still classified postwar documents. Stephen Hayes, Weekly Standard,1-11-06 Dan Darling, Weekly Standard, 1-11-06
In August, 1999, al Qaeda affiliate Ahmed Ressam began working out the details of his plan to bomb the Los Angeles airport
(Incidentally, Iraqi agents had attempted a similar attack during the first Gulf War, details of which were reported in the following Washington Post article regarding a heightened Security threat to airliners during military action against Iraq) Rick Atkinson and David Broder, Washington Post, 1-17-91
In September of 1999, further meetings between high ranking Iraqi officials and high ranking al Qaeda members in Iraq are reported to have taken place.
AKI, May, 23, 2005 This may have been related to Ayman al Zawahiri (Osama bin Laden's top deputy) attending a Jihadi conference in Iraq that NEWSWEEK Stephen F. Hayes and Thomas Joscelyn, "Mother of All Connections"
Also in September 1999, Izzat al-Douri (now a major figure in insurgency and has been working with Ansar and al Qaeda since outset of war as reported by Dan Darling for the Weekly Standard) and Ayman al-Zawahiri (who the 9-11 Commission cited as having ties of his own with Iraq) reportedly also met to discuss terror camps and joint training ADNKRONOS International 5-23-05
November 22, 1999 An internal Iraqi memo shows plans to build and perfect IEDs, The memo also mentions training of Arab fedayeen. Was building and perfecting IEDs something that Iraq was doing throughout the 1990s or was it unique to this year? If it was unique, it indicates an anticipation of some sort of guerilla warfare (possibly anticipating a U.S. led invasion). "Captains Quarters, Joseph Shahda, April 20, 2006
Without making any conclusions as to what happened at the meetings, because the picture still remains incomplete, it appears that both al Qaeda and Iraq viewed themselves at war with the U.S, particularly in light of the recent air strikes on both.
With Iraq looking to rebuild its weakened terror infrastructure and al Qaeda openly at war with the United States (as evidenced by repeated by anti-U.S. fatwas from Osama bin Laden) the two sides had a common interest to overcome ideological differences and build a relationship upon.
To what extent, if any, these two sides actually agreed to work together will not be fully known until the remaining documents from both Iraq and Afghanistan are made public and translated.
The struggle between those pushing for the documents to be released (politicians like Sen. Santorum, Sen. Pat Roberts, Congressmen Hoekstra and others as well as media figures such as Stephen Hayes, Thomas Joscelyn, Ray Robinson and others) and intelligence bureaucrats who continue to maintain control over the recovered documents will ultimately decide how much of this story is going to be allowed to be made available for public consumption.
Members of Saddam's inner circle are now being promoted to al Qaeda leadership positions in Iraq. This has actually been going on for quite some time.
I wish more people were aware of this.
Very true. I think the documentation is solid going all the way back to 2002.
This deserves its own stand-alone thread, my FRiend. I can't do it today, but if you'd like, remind me and I'll do it tomorrow.
Feel free Peach. I am moving my site to a .com fairly soon so I may be able to reprint posts right into the news section here.
I'll post it tomorrow, ikez. It may get moved to the blog section of FR so I'll be happy when you have a .com site.
Thanks for the ping, your work. BTTT!
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