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ANOTHER ANN COULTER THREAD

Posted on 06/26/2006 4:14:38 AM PDT by 7thson

I know, I know - another Ann Coulter thread. I wanted to start a fresh thread because of a question. I am two thirds through her latest book, Godless, and I began wondering about something. Why is she being attacked and skewered for her comments on the Jersey Girls? Other than her views on evolution - which, as far as I know, are only commented upon on Free Republic - the mass media does not comment on anything else she has written in the book. She has commented on Howard Dean, Cindy Sheehan, John Edwards, his wife, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, RFK, Jr., et al. In fact, one comment concerning Sheehan - where she says Sheehan is proof some body types should not wear shorts - should be gravy for the media. Why the fascination with the Jersey Girls? Is it because people do not want to question the 9/11 commission - which they wanted - and find out it was a rubber stamp to exonerate the Clintons?


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1 posted on 06/26/2006 4:14:40 AM PDT by 7thson
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To: 7thson

Here's a very strange interview with Ann about being a deadhead.

http://www.jambands.com/Features/content_2006_06_23.06.phtml


2 posted on 06/26/2006 4:24:38 AM PDT by AMiller
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To: AMiller

Ann's a 'deadhead'? I've just lost all respect for her, and won't be buying her book. Worst fricking band of the last century. Noise looking for a classfication category. Junk.


3 posted on 06/26/2006 4:28:14 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: 7thson

Because that's where they thought she was most vulnerable since it can be argued (especially when her quote is taken out of context) that this was her most outrageous (and offensive) statement in the book. I'm almost through it also and I think it is excellent. Thank God we have her to articulate the points she makes...


4 posted on 06/26/2006 4:28:25 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: AMiller
Here's a very strange interview with Ann about being a deadhead.

So will the liberals start saying that it was all the drugs that explain Coulter's attitude?

5 posted on 06/26/2006 4:29:21 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: 7thson

Because the Jersey Girls are, so far, the only ones who haven't publicly slimed themselves. Cindy Sheehan is over, she made a fool of herself and everyone who supported her, the others are divisive and unpleasant. The Jersey Girls, however, are relative unknowns to the American public, though since Ann's book has come out, they won't be, for long.

Consider: Now, thanks to Ann, all of America knows that the Jersey Girls DO NOT speak for all the relatives of those who died on 9/11. Thanks to Ann, all of America knows that the Jersey Girls are making a handsome living criticizing the war in Iraq and the WOT. Thanks to Ann, these formerly criticism-proof poor little victims are having the bright light of public scrutiny shone on their behavior, and what it reveals is not pretty.

I commend Ann Coulter. This past week, I bought her book, and am reading it. I've read other things she has written, and as far as I'm concerned, she is taking on the sacred cows of the left with a vigor and intelligence that is astonishing.

I admire her--she is a sort of Joan of Arc to me. She uses the truth to unmask and disarm those who wish America ill--particularly when they call themselves citizens.

I pray for Ann's safety. I pray she will continue to do battle. I honor her for the sacrifices she makes to do what she does best. I hope she profits by her work.

God bless you, Ann Coulter! I hope you read this, and know that there is a little old retired nurse out in flyover country who likes and admires you. And I am not alone. You are a credit to women everywhere.


6 posted on 06/26/2006 4:31:46 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: 7thson

They don't comment on the others because they are all examples of just how sleazy the Dims are, and they don't want people being reminded.


7 posted on 06/26/2006 4:32:25 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

Not only are they a bad band, their fans are one of the biggest collections of human debris ever put together in one location.


8 posted on 06/26/2006 4:35:48 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: AMiller

It's a great interview.


9 posted on 06/26/2006 4:36:09 AM PDT by 9999lakes
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To: 9999lakes

It is an okay interview - at least, as far as I am concerned. I have never been a Dead fan. I like a couple of their songs but never got into them that much.


10 posted on 06/26/2006 4:38:37 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: caver

Clearly you didn't read the interview -- quite a list of conservative fans mentioned.

Hey. I'm not one, and I vever buy music of any kind, but my style runs more toward Toby Keith. And I think the Dixie Chicks are a fun group! I also am delighted that CW fans have stopped listening to them, but it doesn't change the fact that they were good.


11 posted on 06/26/2006 4:43:17 AM PDT by 9999lakes
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To: caver

You sure got that right, c.


12 posted on 06/26/2006 4:45:27 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: 7thson

Ann has commented of how little of her book has been read by the DBM. She has said that she said much worse things about other topics.


13 posted on 06/26/2006 4:47:59 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: trebb

Hey folks, there are rules!


14 posted on 06/26/2006 4:50:39 AM PDT by alarmguy
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To: 7thson

Because she is right..... they are "victims" who cannot be challenged.


15 posted on 06/26/2006 4:51:01 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: 7thson

Your input here will be helpful to keep the leftist screed out of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter


16 posted on 06/26/2006 4:51:12 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

Dude, everyone on that site is stoned. They hallucinated that they interviewed Ann Coulter.


17 posted on 06/26/2006 4:51:15 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (What is it about "illegal" you don't understand?)
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To: isthisnickcool

???


18 posted on 06/26/2006 4:59:15 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: 9999lakes

I wasn't commenting on the interview. I was commenting on Grateful Dead music & fans.

I agree, there are lots of good musicians and I like a lot of them, but when they make political comments, they lose my respect.


19 posted on 06/26/2006 5:04:48 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
So Ann's a deadhead. Big deal. It's not enough for me to write her off. I never cared for the music of the "dead" but then again I never cared for alot of what passes for music in the last twenty+ years, and more than likely I never cared for what you consider good music too. So by that argument, I should never consider anything that you have to say as legitimate?
20 posted on 06/26/2006 5:10:32 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: libbylu
Because she is right..... they are "victims" who cannot be challenged.

Yes.

A Conservative pundit (Ann) wrote a book saying the Dems are wrong on abortion. Big yawn from the Dems -- nothing new here, they can handle it (the Dems have a secret weapon to deflect such claims). The pundit also says the Dems are wrong on terrorism. Another big yawn. This won't hurt the Dems (they still have their secret weapon).

Then the pundit points out that the Dems use untouchable "victims" in order to sell their half-baked ideas. Anyone who examines the Dem talking-points (and ignores the untouchable spokesperson) will see that the Dems offer absolutely nothing.

CLANG! The secret weapon has been uncovered! The emperor has no clothes! This is a crisis for the Dems! This is not like other attacks on the Dem position! This effectively disarms the Dems and leaves them with nothing to fall back on!

Ann must be destroyed as a heartless witch.

21 posted on 06/26/2006 5:12:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Without a monkey, "You are nothing, absolutely zero. Absolutely nothing.")
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To: Ouderkirk

"I never cared for the music of the "dead" but then again I never cared for alot of what passes for music in the last twenty+ years..."

Ditto that.

Stones, CSNY, Santana, etc etc of the 60s and early 70s, was the end of R&R. Everything since has been crap.

"...and more than likely I never cared for what you consider good music too."

Different strokes, pal.


22 posted on 06/26/2006 5:13:56 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: 7thson
We have rulez, you know!


23 posted on 06/26/2006 5:18:02 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: AMiller; oldglory; MinuteGal; mcmuffin; Peter W. Kessler; Seeking the truth; gonzo
"Here's a very strange interview with Ann about being a deadhead."

What's "strange" about it??

"The one time I missed not being able to go to Dead shows more than any other since Jerry died was during the Clinton impeachment. There was so much viciousness - killed cats, punctured tires, threats, investigations and slander against those of us favoring impeachment. (Anthony Pellicano, you'll recall – the Hollywood private investigator now accused of criminal conspiracy, attempted murder, and making criminal threats – was working for the Clintons during the Monica Lewinsky investigation.).." ~ Ann Coulter

No lie!!

24 posted on 06/26/2006 5:18:02 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
What's wrong with Ann being a Dead Head? I'm a Parrotthead (hence my screen name). BTW - Parrotthead is spelled correctly.

Jimmy Buffett is a huge lib but he doesn't talk about it much and I like his music. I like Jimmy's cover of Uncle John's Band a lot better than the original. I even did a parody called Uncle John's Plan.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

25 posted on 06/26/2006 5:23:03 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Matchett-PI

Hmmmm...

I guess it's time to skip the next 25 visits to the barber shop.

That oughta make my wife real happy.


26 posted on 06/26/2006 5:23:05 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler
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To: 7thson
The reason that the MSM and the lest (OK, they're pretty much one and the same) are going after her on "The Jersey Girls" is because by minimizing the fact that she's targeted 4 specific political activists, and trying to get the "unwashed masses" to believe that she's taking a swipe at all widows of September 11, they're hoping to completely discredit her. "After all, if she'll say something as ridiculous and 'hateful' as that, she'll say anything!" The simple fact is that they can't repudiate anything she says using facts or evidence, so they have to try to destroy her credibility, in order to call everything she writes and says into question. Of course, if we held the left to that same standard, nobody would buy the NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Time, or Newsweek ever again. Or watch any of the alphabet networks, CNN, or MSNBC.

They did the same thing, with far greater success to Gary Aldrich, regarding Clinton's sneaking out of the White House for sexual escapates, which may or may not have happened. Of course, everything else in the book was right, but the MSM glommed on to that one point, and by playing it up, they destroyed his credibility. On the other hand, I did once read something about evidence of this actually happening.

Mark

27 posted on 06/26/2006 5:23:38 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Judith Anne
Well, if the intent of her book was to trivialize the Jersey Girls I'd say she succeeded. The controversy sure is helping sales.

But that's all that's being talked about. If that satisfies you, then fine. But having a talented writer like an Ann Coulter, coupled with a major book publisher and massive publicity, all to crush four New Jersey loudmouths, seems like overkill.

I'd rather the focus be on the Godlessness of liberals and the effect that's having on our society. No one, except Ann Coulter herself, is talking about that.

28 posted on 06/26/2006 5:29:50 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: 7thson
Why is she being attacked and skewered for her comments on the Jersey Girls?

The mainstream media attacks her because they are predominantly liberal, and her comments pose a truth that they don't want revealed.

Some Republican or conservatives don't like the way she presents her case. I believe that there's a feeling among some that "we are too good to be like her" or something like that.

I disagree with both groups - she's right and she presents her case in a manner which draws attention. And frankly, the issues that she presents in her book all deserve attention.

29 posted on 06/26/2006 5:31:21 AM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: Matchett-PI

Hmmm... I'm gonna have come back and read this after I get to work.


30 posted on 06/26/2006 5:31:50 AM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: MarkL

The MSM would rather talk about the Jersey Girls than the thrust of her book. In that sense, they're winning.


31 posted on 06/26/2006 5:32:04 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: 7thson

Ann's first few chapters explain how the press engages in selective and unfair reporting. There you have it.

I got the book on CD; Ann reads it. I must admit that I have to replay parts because I'm laughing so hard that I can't hear her comments.


32 posted on 06/26/2006 5:33:40 AM PDT by Loud Mime ("Countdown": A documentary about Keith Olbermann's dwindling IQ.....)
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To: AMiller

I'm just so jazzed that she likes my favorite band! (Cake)


33 posted on 06/26/2006 5:34:21 AM PDT by SShultz460
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To: 7thson

I enjoyed her book but the evolution chapters got a little too deep for me.


34 posted on 06/26/2006 5:46:41 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
"Ann's a 'deadhead'? I've just lost all respect for her, and won't be buying her book. Worst fricking band of the last century. Noise looking for a classfication category. Junk"

Huh?
You are kidding right?
When did the music someone likes have anything to do with buying anyone's books?
I love Tom Clancy books, and I have no idea what music he likes. And if I did, it wouldn't make the slightest difference to me.
This latest, pathetic attempt by the Ann-haters to smear her is even more pitiful than the ones before.
35 posted on 06/26/2006 5:47:49 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: ClearCase_guy

You pretty much nailed it there.


36 posted on 06/26/2006 5:49:30 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Judith Anne
Also, the media got to frame Ann's comments as "Coulter attacks 911 widows", making it sound as though she said something different. The media knows most people only read the headlines. Happens on FR all to often.
37 posted on 06/26/2006 5:51:55 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: 7thson
The core tactic of unfair critics is to take one or two points and make them the basis of an entire slam on a person. For example, Lincoln's country manner and spellings in his letters and memos was often ridiculed as marking him to be an ignorant rube. Of course, Lincoln, despite a humble background, limited formal education, and often poor spelling, was not an ignorant rube.

With Ann Coulter, none of her MSM interviewers actually read her book. Instead, in preparation for her interview, the Today Show had a staff person, perhaps even an intern, read her book for points they could toss at her to create sparks and put her on the defensive. The truth matters less than if it can be used to make her look bad -- mean, most of all.

Imagine this intern scanning through Coulter's book. Let's see: Ann says liberals are Godless, arrogant, smug, intolerant, often ignorant -- well, how can you argue with that? Ah, but Coulter slams the Jersey girls! Let's hit her on that!

And so the Today Show's unknown intern or junior staffer sets the basis for the interview with Coulter and the entire MSM approach to her new book. Somewhere, that person is bragging to friends and family that he or (more likely) she fashioned the hit interview on Coulter.

Perhaps though, even in that person's callow mind, they wonder briefly: is this really journalism, or just a shallow form of entertainment? And well, isn't it a mark of an even more deadly shallowness that an entire chorus of liberals has taken their lead? Nah, after all, we are liberals, soooooo much smarter and better than everyone else. We do not need to read books by people that we do not agree with!
38 posted on 06/26/2006 5:52:48 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: 7thson
Why is she being attacked and skewered for her comments on the Jersey Girls?

They thought it was the one thing they could use to paint her in a bad light so we would all turn against her. They don't dare argue with her face to face on actual policy - she'd cut them to ribbons.

Re Ann's being a deadhead - I'd lot rather that than her being into Barry Manilow! The Dead is one of my "guilty pleasures" as well, but just their recordings - I wouldn't go near any of their concerts. Other guilty pleasures: Beavis and Butthead, AC/DC, communist rifles, fireworks, Sienfeld, ...anyway, love him or hate him, you gotta admit, Jerry Garcia made the world a more interesting place.

39 posted on 06/26/2006 5:54:36 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: 7thson

Why are they over-reacting? Same old same old -- TRUTH HURTS. Ann's hit the target.


40 posted on 06/26/2006 5:58:13 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: 7thson
The Left needs to discredit Ann Coulter. She is a powerful, effective voice for conservatism, and her observations of liberal instanity (a redundancy if ever I heard one) cut directly into that camp's appeal.

They can't condemn what she says; she's too rational and coherent. So they villainize her by selecting the "questionable" tactics she uses, especially where those criticisms are directed at figures the Left thinks are above reproach. Wrapping their defense in pathos, they feign umbrage over the "bitter, mean-spirited" assault on these pitiful widows, because they think that will resonate with a sympathetic public.

The truth is, the Left couldn't care less about the widows, they couldn't care less about ANY of the victims of 9/11 or terrorism, or the barbarians in Iraq or Afghanistan or anywhere else. All those people are just tools to discredit the administration and regain control of our political machinery.

It isn't working.

41 posted on 06/26/2006 6:05:52 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Judith Anne
After reading the actual chapter, I don't see what the big deal is about the Jersey Girls comment, which was used to establish the point that liberals use victims as human shields to make their arguments unassailable.

I thought her comment against Barry Goldwater (same page) was a lot worse.

42 posted on 06/26/2006 6:10:36 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Peter W. Kessler; oldglory; mcmuffin; Seeking the truth; gonzo

LOL

We already have the blackmail pictures - the ones in Boca are especially guuuuud. :)


43 posted on 06/26/2006 6:13:57 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: 7thson

They can't be bothered to actually read the book. They sieze on comments from others without doing any homework on what she actually wrote.

44 posted on 06/26/2006 6:16:36 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: BlazingArizona

What was the Goldwater comment? I hope is was something along the lines of the comments I have made about him since he showed abundant evidence of extreme senility.


45 posted on 06/26/2006 6:19:17 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Matchett-PI
What was the Goldwater commen

She claimed that his dislike of fundamentalists was evidence of senility. Goldwater never liked fundamentalists, a position on which he stayed consistent until the last breath of his life.

46 posted on 06/26/2006 6:27:33 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: BlazingArizona

Thanks! I was hoping it had to do with "senility" - regardless of the issue. :)


47 posted on 06/26/2006 6:37:56 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: 7thson
Why is she being attacked and skewered for her comments on the Jersey Girls?

Because rather than attacking their politics, Ann decided to attack their widowhood.

48 posted on 06/26/2006 6:39:02 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: robertpaulsen

I have to disagree. This is her highest selling book to date. I do not think that is due to all of her fans. I believe there are some out there a little curious because of the noise from the MSM. I think she will get converts on this one.


49 posted on 06/26/2006 6:46:12 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Because rather than attacking their politics, Ann decided to attack their widowhood.

Uh, no. Her attack is on their hypocritical MO:

We're 9/11 widows - GWB caused 9/11.
We're 9/11 widows - We support kerry, even made commercials for him.
We're 9/11 widows - The Iraq war is wrong.

Hey, you can't criticize our positions. We're 9/11 widows and you're being mean to us. No fair.

50 posted on 06/26/2006 7:16:48 AM PDT by Bob
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