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Utah race closes to virtual dead heat
Washington Times ^ | 6/26/06 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 06/26/2006 4:35:10 AM PDT by Dane

SALT LAKE CITY -- Rep. Chris Cannon, the five-term Republican facing a stiff primary challenge here over his stance on immigration, has lost a comfortable lead and heads into tomorrow's primary in a statistical tie, according to the latest poll by the Salt Lake City Tribune. The survey of 400 voters found that 44 percent of "likely" Republican primary voters prefer the incumbent Mr. Cannon, compared with 41 percent who prefer developer and political newcomer John Jacob, who promises to crack down on illegal immigration. The three-point gap is within the poll's five-percentage-point margin of error.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnestyforillegals; bordersecurity; cannon; cannon100acu; cannonwillwin; electioncongress; electionushouse; gopprimary; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; jacob; johnfund; rushlimbaugh; satan; sensenbrenner; washtimesbias
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Looks like the Wash Times engages in some bias of their own. They trumpet with much fanafare a Salt Lake City Tribune poll whose subsections have up an 9% margin of error(which makes it junk), while stays silent about a Deseret News poll showing Cannon leading by 10 points.

All polls were taken during the same time period and before Jacob's remark last Thursday that satan was thwarting his campaign and that was also left out of the Wash Times article as was Mr. Jacob's amnesty program called "fastpass".

Shame on the Washington Times in engaging in New York Times and Washington Post like bias.

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1 posted on 06/26/2006 4:35:12 AM PDT by Dane
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To: All
Below is a link where Mr. Jacob's mentions his amnesty program, "fastpass".

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And Mr. Jacob's saying the devil is thwarting his campign.

SALT LAKE CITY Republican congressional hopeful John Jacob believes the devil is impeding his efforts to unseat five-term Representative Chris Cannon. He says there's another force that wants to keep him from going to Washington and the devil is what it is. Jacob says that since he decided to run for Congress, Satan has disrupted his business deals, preventing him from putting as much money into the race as he had hoped. Jacob said during a Wednesday immigration event that the devil was working against him, then reiterated his belief yesterday in a meeting with The Salt Lake Tribune editorial board. He says there's been a lot of adversity, and there's no question he has had experiences that believes are due to an outside force.

2 posted on 06/26/2006 4:41:22 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

An example of Washington Times bias.


3 posted on 06/26/2006 4:42:28 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

dane

i've been trying to figure out what dog you have in this fight because for a man who is so confident of a cannon victory, you sure are worried enough to show these "corrections" every time this issue comes up.


4 posted on 06/26/2006 5:00:19 AM PDT by jneesy
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To: jneesy
i've been trying to figure out what dog you have in this fight because for a man who is so confident of a cannon victory, you sure are worried enough to show these "corrections" every time this issue comes up.

It was the Washington Times that left out the facts(corrections as you call them). If the Wash Times wishes to go down the Wash Post road, so be it, but I have a right to point out their, IMO, deliberate leaving out of facts about the Cannon/Jacob race.

5 posted on 06/26/2006 5:03:05 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: jneesy

What dog Dane has in this fight.

Dane and others who think like him have a big dog in this fight.

They know full well that a defeat for Cannon is a defeat for Bush's open borders policy. They can't have that since they have been telling us for months how polls show support for Bush's "Comprehensive Reform" policy.

A defeat for Cannon will really show them how wrong they were, just like how wrong they were to support Harriet Miers and The Dubia Port deal.


6 posted on 06/26/2006 5:25:05 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Dane

Cannon is the Vice Chairman on the U.S.-Mexico Congressional Caucus.

Remember Cannon's own words:-

“We love immigrants in Utah. And we don’t often times make the distinction between legal and illegal. In fact, I think Utah was the first state in the country to legislate the ability to get a driver’s license based on the matricula consular card and of that I am proud.”

In addition Cannon was the sponsor for H.R. 1918:-

"Student Adjustment Act of 2003 - Amends the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to repeal the provision prohibiting an unlawful alien's eligibility for higher education benefits based on State residence unless a U.S. national is similarly eligible without regard to such State residence.

Amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to cancel the removal of, and adjust to permanent resident status, certain (inadmissible or deportable) alien middle or secondary students with qualifying years of U.S. residency. Makes such aliens eligible for Federal and State higher education assistance during the pendency of their application for cancellation of removal."

If the electorate in Utah want to send a message to Congress on illegal immigration then they have to fire the Cannon.


7 posted on 06/26/2006 5:36:07 AM PDT by managusta (corruptissima republica plurimae leges)
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To: Dane

Immigration is going to be THE issue in the 2006 and 2008 elections. One can only hope that the Republicans develop some backbone on this and adopt a stronger policy before the Democrats get a clue and do it first (not likely I know). The Republicans may be thinking that there will be no backlash because the Dems have no popular policy on this and conservatives will vote Republican anyway, but I believe that many of them might simply stay home on voting day because of this.


8 posted on 06/26/2006 5:36:27 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: tennmountainman

well thats pretty much what i was wondering. whether he was simply a bushbot or is he profiting from the illegal alien racket


9 posted on 06/26/2006 5:56:49 AM PDT by jneesy
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To: tennmountainman
They know full well that a defeat for Cannon is a defeat for Bush's open borders policy.

The lies keep going on, Buhs and Cannon are not "open borders".

My dog in this fight is to counter the lies you all are spouting about ACU 100% rated conservative, Chris Cannon.

10 posted on 06/26/2006 6:00:44 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: jneesy
well thats pretty much what i was wondering. whether he was simply a bushbot or is he profiting from the illegal alien racket

Nope just countering the tancreepbot lies about 100% ACU rated conservative Chris Cannon.

With "conservative" friends like who needs enemies.

11 posted on 06/26/2006 6:02:30 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

All Utah Republicans who want to cast their votes against illegal immigration need to get out their issue voters tomorrow. This is the way to make your voice heard by the DC politicos of both parties more than any other way. They watch these votes.


12 posted on 06/26/2006 6:04:53 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
All Utah Republicans who want to cast their votes against illegal immigration need to get out their issue voters tomorrow. This is the way to make your voice heard by the DC politicos of both parties more than any other way. They watch these votes

Yes they do, BTW, how do you feel about your candidate Jacob saying that satan is trying to thwart his campaign, and putting his petty adversity of not being able to raise campaign funds on par with those who suffer real adversity and evil every day, such as victims of violent crime.

13 posted on 06/26/2006 6:07:55 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: jneesy

I would suspect the latter. He's too shrill and panicky.


14 posted on 06/26/2006 6:22:17 AM PDT by MrEdd (Bad spellers of the world - UNTIE!,)
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To: MrEdd
I would suspect the latter. He's too shrill and panicky

LOL! If pointing out facts makes one "shrill and panicky" so be it.

15 posted on 06/26/2006 6:23:32 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

i'll feel great about it if he knocks off an open borders flunky


heres the only ranking i'm concerned with right now

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=UT03&VIPID=818


16 posted on 06/26/2006 6:24:44 AM PDT by jneesy
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To: Dane

Screw this "100% ACU conservative". He votes the same way on immigration issues as Ted Kennedy, Dick Durbin, Hillary Clinton and 95% of the other democrats and 100% of the RINOs.


17 posted on 06/26/2006 6:26:04 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: jneesy
heres the only ranking i'm concerned with right now

Yep some zealous on issue group.

I'll go with such groups as the American Conservative Union, which has given Chris Cannon a 100& rating for the last 2 years, and respected congressman on FR, James Sensenbrenner who has endorsed Chris Cannon.

In a week where Cannon has received endorsements from President Bush and first lady Laura Bush, he released a new one Wednesday from one of the toughest critics of the Senate bill and its path-to-citizenship proposal, House Judiciary Committee chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis. In a recorded message, Sensenbrenner said Cannon is "a major force in Congress." "And long before it was fashionable, Chris Cannon was working with me to stop illegal immigration. Just about everybody in Congress is talking about immigration, but Chris Cannon is one of the few doing the heavy lifting to actually solve the problem."

18 posted on 06/26/2006 6:29:03 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Free Dominoes
Screw this "100% ACU conservative". He votes the same way on immigration issues as Ted Kennedy, Dick Durbin, Hillary Clinton and 95% of the other democrats and 100% of the RINOs.

Well I guess you are saying to James Sensenbrenner, "screw you" also, per reply #18 of this thread.

You really like to screw over your friends don't you, ala tom tancredo.

19 posted on 06/26/2006 6:31:49 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

You don't hear about it here, but I'll bet this issue plays different in different states. I don't know about Utah, but I do know that my sister is a business owner in a Mo town of 7,000 people. she likes the fact that Mexicans come and bring economic activity buying houses and cars. If they will take the jobs at the chicken processing plant, so much better.


20 posted on 06/26/2006 6:41:47 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Dane

With "friends" like Cannon who would vote for Kennedy's (and all the other democrats') amnesty (not amnesty) plan, who needs enemies? I would think that the fact that all the democrat senators were for this (except a few in deep red states up for election this year) would be enough information to tell you which side conservatives should be on. Letting this amnesty BS go through will just accelerate the 3rd world socialist take over of this country.


21 posted on 06/26/2006 6:47:43 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: ClaireSolt; Extremely Extreme Extremist
You don't hear about it here, but I'll bet this issue plays different in different states. I don't know about Utah, but I do know that my sister is a business owner in a Mo town of 7,000 people. she likes the fact that Mexicans come and bring economic activity buying houses and cars. If they will take the jobs at the chicken processing plant, so much better.

Of course you won't. There is a small but very loud faction on FR, who are hispanic bashers.

A couple of days ago one of their biggest cheerleaders(extremely extreme extremist) pinged me to a thread about a illegal immigrant mass murderer getting justice in Texas(i.e his execution).

Of course the thread turned into a hispanic bash fest, while all the while whites are never such mass mudrerers such as ted bundy or jeffrey dahmer.

I guess to EEE, their names are jeffrey dahmerez and theodoro bundy.

22 posted on 06/26/2006 6:48:29 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Free Dominoes
With "friends" like Cannon who would vote for Kennedy's (and all the other democrats') amnesty (not amnesty) plan, who needs enemies? I would think that the fact that all the democrat senators were for this (except a few in deep red states up for election this year) would be enough information to tell you which side conservatives should be on. Letting this amnesty BS go through will just accelerate the 3rd world socialist take over of this country

Pure tancreepbot lies.

Chris Cannon voted for H.R. 4437.

23 posted on 06/26/2006 6:51:14 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane; NapkinUser; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; Torie

Hey, Dane, if Cannon loses, are you gonna commit seppaku ? ;-)


24 posted on 06/26/2006 6:56:37 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Dane

The question is how he would vote (or would have voted) on Bush's amnesty (not amnesty) plan. Voting him out (or against him) will send a message to Bush that we don't want his amnesty (not amnesty) crap.


25 posted on 06/26/2006 6:57:42 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: Dane

I am not a Hispanic basher. In fact, a soon-to-be son-in-law from Columbia told me there are no Hispanics. I am very concerned that illegals undermine a body of labor law it took us 100 years to arrive at. I am also concerned that Californians who will not face their problems suck all of the oxygen out of the air. Nationwide, illegal immigration is only half a Mexican phenomenon. We have more serious problems I have seen here than illegal nannies and landscapers. Try indentured servants from India and sex-trade slaves from Indochina. However, as long as local authorities think traffic stops and seat belt sweeps are more important, we are doomed.


26 posted on 06/26/2006 6:58:26 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Hey, Dane, if Cannon loses, are you gonna commit seppaku ? ;-)

Nope, why give you sadistic pleasure.

Anyway, Cannon is going to win.

27 posted on 06/26/2006 7:00:24 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: tennmountainman; Dane
They know full well that a defeat for Cannon is a defeat for Bush's open borders policy. They can't have that since they have been telling us for months how polls show support for Bush's "Comprehensive Reform" policy.

While a Cannon loss is a longshot, it is funny to think of Dane sitting there with fingers, arms and legs crossed, eyes squeezed tightly shut, exclaiming over and over, "Oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please..."

28 posted on 06/26/2006 7:00:57 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (My head hurts.)
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To: Free Dominoes
The question is how he would vote (or would have voted) on Bush's amnesty (not amnesty) plan. Voting him out (or against him) will send a message to Bush that we don't want his amnesty (not amnesty) crap

Yeah vote out a guy who voted for H.R. 4437, and when are you tancreepites going to start your jihad against J.D. Heyworth, who voted against H.R. 4437.

Anyway as you twist yourself into a rhetorical pretzel. I'll trust people such as James Sensenbrenner, who has given a ringing endorsement to Chris cannon.

29 posted on 06/26/2006 7:05:20 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

Jacob will vote for H.R. 4437 as well. What we can be sure of is that he won't vote for Bush's amnesty (not amnesty) plan like 95% of the Rat Senators and 100% of the RINOs.


30 posted on 06/26/2006 7:10:41 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: Free Dominoes
Whew dude, step away from the keyboard and take a break, get yourself a pepsi or a cup of coffee, and when you are calmed down, then go to your superiors at the DNC basement, to get further instructions.
31 posted on 06/26/2006 7:20:36 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: jneesy
Dane is panicking because the pro-illegal Republicans are getting their asses handed to them.

Attacking the Washington Times polls? What's next, when Brit Hume announces a Jacob victory, he'll say Hume has been paid off by the Tancredo/Buchanan PAC.

32 posted on 06/26/2006 7:21:53 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Undocumented FReeper)
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To: Dane
I guess to EEE, their names are jeffrey dahmerez and theodoro bundy.

I have nothing against Hispanics Dane. Show me a thread where I specifically bashed them. It would have been pulled by the Mods.

You are really grasping at straws here, your pro-illegal Republican Cannon is circling the drain.

33 posted on 06/26/2006 7:25:26 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Undocumented FReeper)
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To: Dane
Chris Cannon voted for H.R. 4437.

And John McCain is against wasteful spending.

So what's your point?

34 posted on 06/26/2006 7:26:33 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Undocumented FReeper)
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To: Dane

You're the one siding with 95% of the Rat senators (I assume you're in favour of Bush's amnesty (not amnesty)) so take your own advice!


35 posted on 06/26/2006 7:26:57 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Attacking the Washington Times polls?

Uh EEE, it wasn't a Washinton Times poll. It was a Salt Lake Tribune poll. And I am the one who is attacked for not having reading comprehension.

Anyway I posted all of the Utah-3 Republican primary media polls, unlike the Washington Times, which also left out Jacob saying that satan is thwarting his campaign and his amnesty "fastpass" plan.

36 posted on 06/26/2006 7:28:11 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Free Dominoes

Cannon's vote for HR 4437 was a political move. Had he voted against it, he would have been railroaded out of the state GOP convention instead of fighting for his political life as he is now.


37 posted on 06/26/2006 7:28:45 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Undocumented FReeper)
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To: Free Dominoes
You're the one siding with 95% of the Rat senators (I assume you're in favour of Bush's amnesty (not amnesty)) so take your own advice!

Nah, I'll take James Sensenbrenner's advice. Congressman Sensenbrenner is endorsing Chris Cannon(per reply #18 of this thread).

38 posted on 06/26/2006 7:30:22 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Uh EEE, it wasn't a Washinton Times poll. It was a Salt Lake Tribune poll.

If the WashTimes is reporting it, it means that Cannon is in even more trouble than originally thought and the other two polls are bogus.

Anyway I posted all of the Utah-3 Republican primary media polls, unlike the Washington Times, which also left out Jacob saying that satan is thwarting his campaign and his amnesty "fastpass" plan.

The WashTimes didn't report it because (A) Utah voters don't give a damn about Jacob's remarks (B) Jacob plan is not an amnesty plan but a proposal similiar to what's in the Pence plan.

39 posted on 06/26/2006 7:35:23 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Undocumented FReeper)
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To: Dane

Are you in favour of Bush's amnesty (not amnesty) plan? If you are, wouldn't the fact that 95% of the Rat senators and 100% of the RINOs voted for it and most of the conservative republicans voted against it tell you that the Bush plan is not a conservative (let alone a good) plan?


40 posted on 06/26/2006 7:37:32 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: Dane

Still pimping Sensenbrenner. What if Tancredo had endorsed Cannon? You'd then say Cannon is being paid off by the Buchanan/Tancredo PAC and go into a coma.


41 posted on 06/26/2006 7:37:37 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Undocumented FReeper)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
If the WashTimes is reporting it, it means that Cannon is in even more trouble than originally thought and the other two polls are bogus

LOL! IOW, if the New York Times or Wash Post is reporting only one poll, then the other two polls are bogus.

Dude, I don't if you are naive or deliberate, but as of now I would put my money on the latter.

42 posted on 06/26/2006 7:38:10 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

That's what I figured. It would have been political suicide to vote against it, so he voted the right way for once (on immigration).


43 posted on 06/26/2006 7:40:05 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Still pimping Sensenbrenner.

Well if you are saying that Sensenbrenner's endorsement of Chris Cannon is "pimping", so be it.

I'll let readers on FR decide if Congressman Sensenbrenner(in your words) is a "pimp".

44 posted on 06/26/2006 7:40:32 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Free Dominoes; Extremely Extreme Extremist; sinkspur; Texasforever
That's what I figured. It would have been political suicide to vote against it(H.R. 4437), so he(Cannon) voted the right way for once (on immigration)

So when are you going to start your tancreepite jihad against J.D. Haeyworth, who voted against H.R. 4437.

Whew, this is great entertainment watching you all do your sidewalk contotionist routine.

45 posted on 06/26/2006 7:44:26 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Free Dominoes; Extremely Extreme Extremist; sinkspur; Texasforever
That's what I figured. It would have been political suicide to vote against it(H.R. 4437), so he(Cannon) voted the right way for once (on immigration)

So when are you going to start your tancreepite jihad against J.D. Haeyworth, who voted against H.R. 4437.

Whew, this is great entertainment watching you all do your sidewalk contortionist routine.

46 posted on 06/26/2006 7:44:34 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

Someone tell me why Hayworth voted against HR 4437. He seems to be against the illegal invasion of America.


47 posted on 06/26/2006 8:04:22 AM PDT by Free Dominoes
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To: Dane

Cannon is supported by and endorsed by the racist, pro-marxist National Council of The Race (La Raza) because of his support for their radical agenda.

Despite his recent outright lies about his position on border security and immigration reform, Cannon's voting record on these issues are atrocious:

Voted on House floor against amendment to HR 4437 to end visa lottery in 2005

Cosponsored legislation that includes provision to increase chain migration in 2005-2006

Voted against amendment to prohibit immigration increases in Free Trade Agreements in 2005

Voted for sanctuary policies for illegal aliens in 2006

Voted against amendment to end special amnesty for certain Central Americans in 2006

Voted on the floor of the House against amendment to require implementation of entry-exit system in 2005

Voted on House floor against amendment to clarify local law enforcement's authority to enforce immigration laws in 2005

Voted in favor of sanctuary policies for illegal aliens in 2005 H.Amdt. 288 to HR 2862)

Voted in favor of sanctuary policies for illegal aliens in 2005 (H.Amdt. 138 to HR 2360)

Cosponsoring bill to reward illegal aliens with amnesty in 2005-2006

Voted against amendment to increase interior enforcement in 2005

Cosponsored bill to create an amnesty for illegal agricultural workers in 2005-2006

Voted against enforcing federal laws against sanctuary policies to protect illegal aliens in 2004 (H.Amdt. 655 to HR 4754)

Voted in favor of sanctuary policies to protect illegal aliens in 2004 (H.Amdt. 583 to HR 4567)

Cosponsored amnesty for Colombians and Peruvians in 2003-2004

Cosponsored so-called guestworker program to create amnesty for illegal aliens in 2003-2004 (HR 1684)

Cosponsored bill to reward illegal aliens with in-state tuition rates and amnesty in 2003-2004 (HR 1300)

Cosponsored bill to reward illegal aliens with amnesty in 2003-2004

Co-sponsored bill to reward illegal aliens with in-state tuition rates and amnesty in 2001-2002

Co-sponsored legislation to grant amnesty to over 2 million illegal aliens in 2002

Voted FOR Section 245(i), a form of amnesty for illegal aliens in 2002

Voted in favor of a four-month extension of Section 245(i) in 2001

Cosponsored bill to create an amnesty for illegal agricultural workers in 2003-2004

Voted AGAINST killing pro-illegal-alien Section 245(i) program in 1997

Cannon deserves to be defeated in the REPUBLICAN Primary election.
48 posted on 06/26/2006 8:08:41 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Dane

"ACU 100% rated conservative, Chris Cannon"

If his ACU ratings are so high (and that may true)
Why is he in a runnoff with a novice?

It is because he has been Bush's point man on the open borders policy
and amnesty and it looks like Citizens in Cannons district don't agree.


49 posted on 06/26/2006 8:09:39 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Spiff

wow


50 posted on 06/26/2006 8:12:28 AM PDT by moehoward
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