Posted on 06/26/2006 8:24:33 PM PDT by managusta
Boys with a number of elder brothers are more likely to grow up to be gay than boys with relatively fewer older brothers, younger brothers or sisters of any age - but is not the result of upbringing, says a study published today.
For each additional older brother, a boy's chance of being homosexual increases by a third, it says.
Prof Anthony Bogaert, at Brock University, in St Catherine's, Canada, says his research provides strong evidence that sexual orientation may be the result of biological processes in the womb.
"If you have a biological brother, and you never even lived with that biological brother, this leads to a higher likelihood of male homosexuality," said Prof Bogaert.
He says one possible explanation is that sexual orientation is forged in the womb as a result of a pregnant mother's immune reaction to her male sons. Her body builds up antibodies to male-specific molecules from past pregnancies that affect the developing brain of her foetus, shifting its sexual orientation.
The findings were greeted with caution yesterday by Prof Roger Short, an expert in sexual orientation at the Melbourne Royal Women's Hospital and the University of Melbourne, who said there was "much more likely to be a sociological explanation"
So does it mean that it is not genetic?
Being a pedophile?
Being a rapist?
Being a serial killer?
Being a bad dresser and sloppy housekeeper.
But of course. You don't want to see an individual taking the blame for his or her actions do you?
Victims all victims.
I would've suspected it to have begun in the colon....
So does that mean the ninth boy is THREE TIMES A LADY!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Yeah, right. Drawing to an inside straight begins in the womb, too. Thanks a lot, Mom.
They might as well have said, "For each additional older brother, a boy's chance of being unreasonably afraid of backing into doorknobs increases by a third....."
So THAT'S where all those gay Mormons came from.
Oh, wait, never mind.

Anthony Bogaert is an associate professor at Brock University in Ontario.
Oh crap. These people are the High Priests of Perversion. I'll guarantee that this "study" will be found to be bogus, just like all the rest of these psychobabblemumbojumbo BS "studies" where evidence is cherry picked to "prove" the preconceived hypoyjesis.
Too bad that, after 25+ years of looking, there's absolutely no proof of any genetic link to being gay / straight / pedophile / lesbian / transgender / girl watcher / prefer women with big'uns, etc.
Anthony Bogaert, a psychologist and human sexuality expert
Asexuals are getting organized and
demanding acceptance
Dr Anthony Bogaert, an associate professor of psychology at Brock University, released his analysis of a 1994 survey of the sex lives of some 18,000 Britons. He was urprised that fully 1% of respondents reported having had no feelings of sexual attraction to anyone in their lives.
http://tinyurl.com/m5eua
For example: hermaphrodites....
Pegs my BS meter...
ping
And here come an amazing number of stupid comments...not one of which address the study. Conservatives just never never argue on the scientific issues...just blurt out stupid stuff. I would have a lot more respect to a discussion if it was rational.
Ok, now you can go ahead and flame away...oh, and I await the really "mature" ones to comment on my Freeper name.
Nonsense. My sister has 7 sons, and not a one of them has any effeminate mannerisms and all are married.
Whenever someone suggests that it's not an innocuous difference -- like being red-headed -- and more like being born with a chronic illness that takes great effort to overcome, the radical howl as if there is something hateful about it.
How about the super-high number of homosexuals that were abused as boys??
This is a lie.
According to the liberals themselves, nothing starts in the womb besides a mass of unthinking, unfeeling, ungentically coded tissue that could be nothing more than an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard or a crumb of cheese.
Mothers should not be listening to show tunes while pregnant.
No flame from me, but stupid so-called "scientific" data such as this does deserve the comments, it's horse hockey.
Wrong.. being gay starts in the HEAD...
I'm told that only half of all homosexuals are gay from birth. The other half get sucked into it later in life.
Does the seventh son have a seventh son? That's supposed to be very lucky.
It happens because his mama beats up his ol man and mama continues protecting her "precious" little boy from the big bad ol world.
Now all he can do is cry "homofobe" when the boys pick on him.
Yeah, or maybe it's suppose to read "Starts a wound"...
thanks for the ping.
BS stuff again, any body worth 10 cents would understand that being the last child means that they are more likely to be a momma's boy and that the father is more likely to be dead during child's needful years of a male role model.
It is that simple...
I shouldn't have laughed...but I did!
Not nice to mock the esteemed professor. LOL!
There are now 321 related news stories with ever evolving ever more conclusive and definitive pro-homosexual agenda headlines on google heralding this "study" -much similar to the fanfare that homosexual agenda activists and the MSM leftist mouth peices gave the recently reported "Lesbian Brain" study that was later almost silently corrected without any fanfare...
Well, this is the third article on this study and its "suggestion" conclusion implied as definitive (versus statiscally significant scientific conclusion) that I note posted on FR (no need to post all 321 as posting junk science repeatedly does not make it more credible):
In this study the magical "fraternal birth order effect" raises its head again -another psychological theory without ANY physical biological proof premising it.
Considering the elite psychological community has declared the homosexual disorder normal without ANY scientific basis one must wonder why this purely psychological theory premised in subjective declarations exists let alone is pursued by psychologists seeking physical biological causes YET to be found? One must also wonder why other behavioral disorders attributed to the "fraternal birth order effect" seem to get published less frequently?
The cause(s) of the fraternal birth order effect in male homosexuality.James WH.
The Galton Laboratory, University College London, Wolfson House, 4 Stephenson Way, London NW1 2HE.
It has been established that the probability that a man is homosexual is positively related to his number of older brothers, but not older sisters when the brothers are accounted for. This is known as the 'fraternal birth order' effect. In the past, efforts have been made to explain this phenomenon in terms of several alternative biological hypotheses and a psychosocial hypothesis. This note examines how well these hypotheses accommodate the fraternal birth order effect. It is concluded that: (1) the evidence for the hypothesis of maternal immunoreactivity to the male fetus is weak; (2) the evidence for the intrauterine hormone exposure hypothesis is also weak; (3) the evidence for the hypothesis of postnatal learning is stronger. Lastly, there seem likely to be causes common to male homosexuality and paedophilia. They may include sexual (or quasi-sexual) experience in childhood or adolescence.
PMID: 14989531 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
-some other interesting observations attributed to the "fraternal birth order effect":
hahahaha, more homosexual agenda lunacy is proposed for my entertainment and pleasure.
"How about the super-high number of homosexuals that were abused as boys??"
How ABOUT that?
[/Mel Allen]
Seriously, what difference does it make? This study shows their desperation--they are trying to avoid the negative repercussions of either of the two possible reasons for homosexuality, which are:
1) It's genetic--which means gays will be selectively aborted as soon as the gene is found.
2) It's behavioral--which means they should be stopped from recruiting, and will be.
Here they try to blend the two to solve a 'problem,' and create difficulty for those who would stuff `em back in the closet. First, large families usually are fairly conservative, so better in gays' minds to make them smaller and more likely to produce the doting mothers and controlling fathers that we see time and again produce diamonds and deviants (or both). Second, if there is both a genetic AND behavioral component selectively breeding out queerdom isn't so easy as 1 or 2 make it out to be.
"I'm told that only half of all homosexuals are gay from birth. The other half get sucked into it later in life."
NO, NO, NO, they are not recruited. It's the way they are reared that does it.
They can't explain why Ellen Degenerates girlfriends keep switching sides. Not that anybody can.
Balderdash. Science with an agenda.
As the Brits themselves say, "Rubbish".
I used to believe that being homosexual might have had some genetic component. I saw the two main researchers on TV being interviewed around 1992. They were both obviously gay and had their own agenda. I have since believed that it is simply another personality disorder. Sadly, the American Association of Psychologists believes it is another 'variation' on normal. My question is 'what's normal about it?'.
I used to believe that being homosexual might have had some genetic component. I saw the two main researchers on TV being interviewed around 1992. They were both obviously gay and had their own agenda. I have since believed that it is simply another personality disorder. Sadly, the American Association of Psychologists believes it is another 'variation' on normal. My question is 'what's normal about it?'.
We're only discussing the instinct to be sexually attracted to your own sex.
If you're suggesting that certain men who have a severely dominant feminine side...who sashay, gesture, hold that pinky in the air...
If you're suggesting that certain women who swear off makeup, cut their hair like men, dress like men, walk like bouncers and swear like troopers...
...if you're suggesting that's a concious act to feed their chosen perversion...well you're nuts. That is not an act, IMO..
A woman can be trapped in a man's body and vice versa.
It's common sense if you open your eyes and check your bibles at the door. ;^)
How does that square with findings that there is no gene for homosexuality? Whatever draws one to this life style, on what basis can it be accepted as normal?
As to the professor and his womb theory, I'll chalk it up as an "urban myth".
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