Being gay 'starts in the womb'

The Telegraph ^ | 06/27/2006 | Roger Highfield

[Gumdrop]

Nonsense. My sister has 7 sons, and not a one of them has any effeminate mannerisms and all are married.

[guitarist]

You know what's really sick, stupid, disgusting, unbelievable, galling, etc.? The way these "studies" are used to "prove" something that is complete myth. Like that boys are "gay" from the womb. I will take the author's word for it that a boy who is the fourth son is more likely to be a homosexual than one who has no brothers. But does it follow from that that perversion is hereditary?? Why don't they follow the trail everyone knows about but it afraid to mention, because it decimates the idea of being "born gay"--namely, that virtually all homosexuals are the sons of an absent or overbearing father!

[L.N. Smithee]

I have never had a problem with the idea that homosexuality may have a biological component to it. What gets me is the way that it is treated as if it is normal and not obviously what would normally be termed a disorder or a birth defect. For believers in natural selection, I have yet to hear any credible reason why homosexuality should not be viewed as an anomaly, since it obviously doesn't lead to continuation and propagation of the species.

Whenever someone suggests that it's not an innocuous difference -- like being red-headed -- and more like being born with a chronic illness that takes great effort to overcome, the radical howl as if there is something hateful about it.

[guitarist]

How about the super-high number of homosexuals that were abused as boys??

[VeniVidiVici]

This is a lie.

According to the liberals themselves, nothing starts in the womb besides a mass of unthinking, unfeeling, ungentically coded tissue that could be nothing more than an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard or a crumb of cheese.

[doug from upland]

Mothers should not be listening to show tunes while pregnant.

[Theresawithanh]

No flame from me, but stupid so-called "scientific" data such as this does deserve the comments, it's horse hockey.

[hosepipe]

[ Being gay 'starts in the womb' ]

Wrong.. being gay starts in the HEAD...

[Alex Murphy]

So does it mean that it is not genetic?

I'm told that only half of all homosexuals are gay from birth. The other half get sucked into it later in life.

[phoenix0468]

Does the seventh son have a seventh son? That's supposed to be very lucky.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.salon.com/health/sex/urge/world/1999/11/04/size/index.html

[jongaltsr]

It happens because his mama beats up his ol man and mama continues protecting her "precious" little boy from the big bad ol world.

Now all he can do is cry "homofobe" when the boys pick on him.

[Recall]

Yeah, or maybe it's suppose to read "Starts a wound"...

[DBeers]

thanks for the ping.

[LowOiL]

BS stuff again, any body worth 10 cents would understand that being the last child means that they are more likely to be a momma's boy and that the father is more likely to be dead during child's needful years of a male role model.

It is that simple...

[IIntense]

I would've suspected it to have begun in the colon.

I shouldn't have laughed...but I did!

[IIntense]

...THREE TIMES A LADY!!

Not nice to mock the esteemed professor. LOL!

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There are now 321 related news stories with ever evolving ever more conclusive and definitive pro-homosexual agenda headlines on google heralding this "study" -much similar to the fanfare that homosexual agenda activists and the MSM leftist mouth peices gave the recently reported "Lesbian Brain" study that was later almost silently corrected without any fanfare...

Well, this is the third article on this study and its "suggestion" conclusion implied as definitive (versus statiscally significant scientific conclusion) that I note posted on FR (no need to post all 321 as posting junk science repeatedly does not make it more credible):

In this study the magical "fraternal birth order effect" raises its head again -another psychological theory without ANY physical biological proof premising it.

Considering the elite psychological community has declared the homosexual disorder normal without ANY scientific basis one must wonder why this purely psychological theory premised in subjective declarations exists let alone is pursued by psychologists seeking physical biological causes YET to be found? One must also wonder why other behavioral disorders attributed to the "fraternal birth order effect" seem to get published less frequently?

The cause(s) of the fraternal birth order effect in male homosexuality.

James WH.

The Galton Laboratory, University College London, Wolfson House, 4 Stephenson Way, London NW1 2HE.

It has been established that the probability that a man is homosexual is positively related to his number of older brothers, but not older sisters when the brothers are accounted for. This is known as the 'fraternal birth order' effect. In the past, efforts have been made to explain this phenomenon in terms of several alternative biological hypotheses and a psychosocial hypothesis. This note examines how well these hypotheses accommodate the fraternal birth order effect. It is concluded that: (1) the evidence for the hypothesis of maternal immunoreactivity to the male fetus is weak; (2) the evidence for the intrauterine hormone exposure hypothesis is also weak; (3) the evidence for the hypothesis of postnatal learning is stronger. Lastly, there seem likely to be causes common to male homosexuality and paedophilia. They may include sexual (or quasi-sexual) experience in childhood or adolescence.

PMID: 14989531 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

-some other interesting observations attributed to the "fraternal birth order effect":

Fraternal birth order and sexual orientation in pedophiles.

Birth order in homosexual versus heterosexual sex offenders against children, pubescents, and adults.

[TheCrusader]

"If you have a biological brother, and you never even lived with that biological brother, this leads to a higher likelihood of male homosexuality,"

hahahaha, more homosexual agenda lunacy is proposed for my entertainment and pleasure.