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Giuliani and History (In the age of terror, he could be the best presidential candidate available)
The American Prowler ^ | 6/27/2006 | Philip Klein

Posted on 06/26/2006 10:40:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: areafiftyone

different=different poses


61 posted on 06/27/2006 5:42:55 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: Auntie Toots
I don't know that much about Allen, but from what I know, he seems like a decent sort.
Saw him on C-Span a few days ago.
Do I think he can't beat Hilary? No.
But hey, its early days yet.
I am strongly for Rudy. I know his record on tackling and dealing with tough issues, and I he will beat Hilary. But of course I'll vote for whoever the Republican candidate is.
62 posted on 06/27/2006 5:44:59 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks for posting!


63 posted on 06/27/2006 5:46:06 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: livius
Abortion, gun control and immigration are all legal and legislative issues.

The President is a leadership and protection of the USA role. While he has a veto power, it can be overruled.

The President's Power at its summit is as Commander in Chief. Guiliani works for me.

McCain doesn't work because he has something deeply imbedded in him from being a POW. He can't shake it. It interferes with a strong and correct mindset. It makes him wobble.

64 posted on 06/27/2006 5:49:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Auntie Toots

Up here in the tundra, I ask if people have heard of George Allen. No one I ask has heard of him.


65 posted on 06/27/2006 6:03:14 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: carlo3b
Nobody in this potential field of candidates can engender the strong coalitions to beat the Hildabeast,...

Anyone who says Hillary Clintong is the be all, end all of the '08 election has already conceded defeat... or has other motives... I do not believe the liars in the media... Julie-Annie is a stalking horse for the left...

66 posted on 06/27/2006 6:04:26 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: All
AS HE FOUGHT TO TRANSFORM New York City, the New York Times editorial board and liberal interest groups denounced him every step of the way.

Too bad so many Freepers are in bed with the Slimes.

67 posted on 06/27/2006 6:05:01 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: areafiftyone
Guiuliani is polling way over every Republican in the South and Western states.

You believe the spoon fed left wing media propaganda?

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All the Republican candidates are in the single digits except for McCain.

There are no candidates, nobody but the left wing media has declared anyone is running...

68 posted on 06/27/2006 6:13:47 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

So every single poll is wrong because Giuliani is on top? He's topped every single poll out there and each one is wrong? People are tired of the same old Democrats and Republicans right now - they want new blood and are looking for change. Things may change by the time 2008 rolls around.


69 posted on 06/27/2006 6:18:14 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: carlo3b
. . . gun stance (I believe he will take a back step on this one) . . .

This is why Giuliani doesn't stand much of a chance at all. When I've got politically astute people like Freepers telling me that they "believe he will take a back step" on a major issue like this, you can understand why a Giuliani candidacy would generate record low turnout among conservative voters.

I don't think there are too many people who would make the effort to walk across the street for a half-@ssed candidate like this.

70 posted on 06/27/2006 6:19:56 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Sacajaweau
Abortion, gun control and immigration are all legal and legislative issues.

No, they are Constitutional enforcement issues of the executive branch...

Illegal immigration is not an executive responsibility for national security?

71 posted on 06/27/2006 6:23:30 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: areafiftyone
So every single poll is wrong because Giuliani is on top?

Of course not but it is premature to start saying things such as Giuliani is our only hope to beat Hillary. We are a good 18 months or so from the Republican primaries, a lot happen before then and after then. Our future president could be someone no one's have really mentioned. Until then, it's fun to speculate but let's not get caught up in any one candidate.

72 posted on 06/27/2006 6:23:50 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: tkathy
Rudy would be awesome fighting the WOT, the only issue that matters.

The only problem there is that the so-called "war on terror" hasn't been a major issue in Washington in quite a long time.

73 posted on 06/27/2006 6:24:13 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: areafiftyone
A 2008 presidential poll taken in the spring of 2006 is nothing more than an assessment of a candidate's name recognition -- 2.5 years before the election.

How quickly we forget that John Kerry probably wasn't even polling at 5% back in the spring of 2002. Everyone was talking about Al Gore, Joe Lieberman, and Howard Dean as the front-runners for the 2004 Democrat nomination.

74 posted on 06/27/2006 6:27:35 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: LWalk18
Our future president could be someone no one's have really mentioned

Well I do hope more Governors get into the mix. Senators make me puke - they are a bunch of egotistical maniacs. I will not vote for a Senator in the primary.

75 posted on 06/27/2006 6:29:46 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone
People are tired of the same old Democrats and Republicans right now -

I am tired of illegal immigration and that is what people are talking about. Language, borders, culture...

The cult of personality will address none of the three and neither will Julie-Annie...

76 posted on 06/27/2006 6:31:17 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Brilliant
Also noticed the "undecided" vote (members only) for Allen is currently 4.9%.
That's probably because for many of us Allen is a total unknown.

I've seen nothing about his positions on the "One Issue" lists.

77 posted on 06/27/2006 6:49:55 AM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: napscoordinator
Senator McCain is a very conservative Senator

FR is probably far more conservative as a whole than most groups.
On the recent FR poll (members only) Sen. McCain at 39.7% lost to those conservative voters who selected "3rd party" (37.1%) or "sit it out" (11.3%)

If McCain can't win the support of those here who should be a conservatives natural base, can he really be considered conservative?

78 posted on 06/27/2006 7:03:07 AM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: nickcarraway

I would never vote for that swine.


79 posted on 06/27/2006 7:04:46 AM PDT by Protagoras (("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: Kryptonite
Kryptonite wrote:
I believe very strongly that if the demonrats put shrillary up, we can beat her with George Allen. Just need to get people familiar with the man at this point, as relatively few, including self-described republicans, recognize his name or know much else about him.

You're dreamin', man. George Allen hasn't got a prayer of defeating Hillary.

Right now, I see two, and ONLY two, Republicans capable of beating Hillary in 2008:
1. Giuliani - this is less a matter of politics, and more a matter of "street smarts". Giuliani may be the only Republican out there who is quick enough on his feet to counter Hillary and the full weight of the mainstream media which will be thrust behind her.
2. Tom Tancredo - this is 180 degrees the opposite of #1. Tancredo has THE issue for 2008, he OWNS it among Republicans. No one can "get to the right of him" on illegals and the immigration issue. It is the hottest button of hot-button politics, and with it, Tancredo can explode onto the national political scence, crossing numerous political "fences", and win with it.

But the others, especially no-names like Mr. Allen? C'mon....

- John

80 posted on 06/27/2006 7:07:02 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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