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Smokers' airline ready for take-off
Telegraph.CO.UK ^ | 6-27-06 | Kate Connolly

Posted on 06/27/2006 4:38:32 AM PDT by SheLion

A German businessman has founded an airline dedicated to smokers.

Smintair, or Smokers' International Airways, aims to cater for smokers who feel excluded in an age when all major airlines have banned the habit.

A Dusseldorf-Tokyo service is due to begin in October and is expected to serve mainly Japanese businessmen.

Smintair's founder, Alexander Schoppmann, a 30-a-day man, said: "There are no laws banning smoking on board. The airlines have made these rules themselves because no-smoking planes are cheaper. It means you don't have to change the air filter system so regularly."


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To: SheLion
A Dusseldorf-Tokyo service is due to begin in October and is expected to serve mainly Japanese businessmen.

If they market this adroitly, I think that this could be a success.

21 posted on 06/27/2006 5:21:29 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Calpernia; netmilsmom
I will cross my fingers....but I'm afraid the other airlines with lock arms and pressure the airports to refuse landing of this innovative entrepreneur.

Well, I am sure there is plenty of smoking on private jets.  This isn't a flag ship carrier anyway, so I doubt if the owner is worried much.

22 posted on 06/27/2006 5:22:41 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

" People are getting sicker on more planes today then ever before. "

Please post data to support this.


23 posted on 06/27/2006 5:23:39 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII
Please post data to support this.

Oh I will!  You can COUNT on it!

24 posted on 06/27/2006 5:25:49 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

>>>This isn't a flag ship carrier anyway

What is a flag ship carrier?


25 posted on 06/27/2006 5:26:25 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SheLion
and I would support this freedom by NOT flying on this airline.

crikey...I'm not a smoker, so I would probably opt for another airline, right? HOWEVER, why can't smokers enjoy a flight on a smoking flight?

(sorry...making my blood boil this morning!....)

26 posted on 06/27/2006 5:26:47 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: SheLion

This thing will get a ton of business.


27 posted on 06/27/2006 5:28:12 AM PDT by KoRn
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To: SheLion

I seem to recall a guy trying this in the US in the early 90's. Didn't last too long.


28 posted on 06/27/2006 5:37:30 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: SheLion

This is a great idea.

What I want to see is a no-security airline, an airline with no x-ray, preflight screening, baggage search, or other "security" hassle. Passengers simply walk straight onto the plane after signing a release indemnifying the carrier should anything bad happen during the flight. Security becomes the responsibility of the passengers.

Better yet, the airline could just issue each passenger a sidearm and seven rounds of ammunition as they got on the plane. I'd like to see a terrorist try to hijack an airplane full of armed passengers...


29 posted on 06/27/2006 5:42:20 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Calpernia
What is a flag ship carrier?

A United States carrier/airline.  Not foreign.

United, Delta, etc

30 posted on 06/27/2006 5:53:35 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: ZinGirl
I'm not a smoker, so I would probably opt for another airline, right? HOWEVER, why can't smokers enjoy a flight on a smoking flight?

Well, calm down. :)  "Some" of our fellow FREEPERS are not so tolerate of we that smoke.  And they don't care WHAT party we support. heh!

31 posted on 06/27/2006 5:56:05 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Raycpa

"Under U.S. government rules, smoking is prohibited on all domestic scheduled-service flights except for flights over six hours to or from Alaska or Hawaii."

Another example that you do not own your private property in America, but must operate it in a manner that pleases the Marxist whims of Big Brother.


32 posted on 06/27/2006 6:09:08 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: SheLion

I thought a Flag Ship carrier was the one that carried the flag of that nation (i.e. government-affiliated), which would not include the ones you mentioned.


33 posted on 06/27/2006 6:10:02 AM PDT by August West (To each according to his ability, from each according to his need...)
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To: sergeantdave

That rule is due to the commerce clause you hold near and dear to your heart.


34 posted on 06/27/2006 6:11:07 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: SheLion
Well, calm down

see....this is where a cigarette would come in handy (snort). ;)

(only because it's too early for a margarita)

35 posted on 06/27/2006 6:14:49 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: Raycpa

I see you're feeling hyperbolic this morning.


36 posted on 06/27/2006 6:14:53 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: SheLion

Oh, thank you!


37 posted on 06/27/2006 6:15:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: VoiceOfBruck
I seem to recall a guy trying this in the US in the early 90's. Didn't last too long.

I thought so too. I just came across a 1993 article about "Smoker's Express". They got around the laws by making passengers members of a private club.

In the U.S. this concept only works if you have enough fliers who meet all of the following: (a) are serious smokers (not the occasional social smoker), (b) find the one flight time convenient, (c) are traveling alone or exclusively with other smokers, (d) find the pricing competitive, and (e) need to get from city A to city B.

This quickly limits the number of potential customers.

38 posted on 06/27/2006 6:20:13 AM PDT by DonnDe
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To: R.W.Ratikal

Buzz off...


39 posted on 06/27/2006 6:20:40 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: SheLion

Hehehehe!

You should have seen the fight I had on one of the Homeschooling discussion boards.
Someone came in with a petition to restrict smoking in all public places.
I told them that this is not something that the Homeschoolers should be involved with as we could easily be government regulated ourselves. The government needs to stay out of our private lives and if one doesn't like smoking, go to a non-smoking restaurant.
At first, people hollered, using all the old "I can't stand smoke" crap.
I keep pushing the personal freedom idea. That the government could come in and say that "Unschooling" is wrong or "Classical Homeschooling" needs more regulation. Each of these homeschooling families have personal freedoms and need to lay low. We are in MI, where homeschooling is easy. With government regulation, our lives could be he!!.

One Unschooler came in and understood. Then another, then a family that uses a Christian Curriculm, and like a bulb going off, it dawned on them that, Yes it could be us next.

The debate was shut down.


40 posted on 06/27/2006 6:31:21 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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