"New Jews" Shulamit Aloni, Zahava Gal On and Ronny Brizon admire their hero
Posted on 06/27/2006 7:21:13 AM PDT by Alouette
No 'zhid' for president
Rabbi Lau is the polar opposite of the Israel envisioned by the Zionist forefathers. We need an enlightened 'new Jew' to lead the country
Since the ugly, sickly "zhid," a character that doesn't appear in the least bit majestic, bestows on the ideal image of the beautiful, proud Hebrew… the zhid should be shocked and humiliated, whereas the other guy should be proud. The zhid is loathsome to everyone and everything, whereas the proud Hebrew must charm them… The zhid loves hiding with bated breath from the eyes of strangers, whereas the other guy must march proudly and strongly towards the entire world…and wave the flag: I am a Jew!
Before everyone comes down on me yelling, "anti-Semite, anti-Semite," I would point out that the words written above were written by none other than one of Zionism's founding fathers and an exceptional intellectual: Ze'ev Jabotinsky.
Need it be said that Jabotinsky was no anti-Semite? Quite the opposite: He dedicated his life to fighting for his Jewish brothers and saving them from the disaster he predicted would engulf them.
This quote is particularly important because it comes from Jabotinsky's eulogy for Theodor Herzl! He wrote these words because he attached great importance to symbols in general, and to national symbols in particular. He viewed Herzl as the embodiment of the "Hebraization" of the Jewish people and the antithesis of the conservative "zhid", with his extreme opinions, frozen ties to Jewish law and lack of tolerance.
It is well known that all of Zionist theory can be summed up in two sentences: A country for the Jewish people, to serve as a home for new Jews. The nature of change required amongst the Jews (individually and as a nation) aroused great conflict and disagreement, but all the Zionist forefathers – from Herzl to Brenner – agreed that the new Jew must be the polar opposite from the "zhid." This is what Jabotinsky wrote.
The State of Israel was born, and the first goal of Zionism was realized. But the "new Jew" is still fighting a raging battle. Some of us have thrown off the outdated yoke of nonsense and adopted an enlightened, liberal and open world view. Others have not only failed to open up, but have sunk into darker and darker behaviors. They are ethnocentric, hate foreigners and "heretics," and harbor deep hatred for individual freedom and equality.
Unfortunately, this stream is growing and becoming deeply entrenched. If we do not fight this ideology with all our might, there is absolutely a danger that the state of the Jews will become a shtetel of zhids. The polar opposite of the vision of the Zionist forefathers.
Important symbol
The most symbolic office in the country is the presidency. The president symbolizes the image of this country, in our eyes and in the eyes of the world.
Throughout the history this country, scientists and men of the humanities such as Chaim Weizmann, Zalman Shazar and Yitzhak Navon have been chosen to serve as president. In addition, public servants such as Ezer Weizmann and Moshe Katsav have also served. Men who correctly personify, more or less Jabotinsky's "Hebrew": Cultured Jews with broad knowledge in science, rather than zhids frozen in halacha (Jewish law) who hate everybody else.
Could it be that for the first time in history the state will nominate the polar opposite of everything it stands for to serve as its highest symbol? Reactionary, conservative religiosity (even it these are hidden behind fake declarations and public faces)? That we would nominate scorn for all other religious philosophies, to say nothing of philosophies that are not religious at all?
Should our head of state be a Jewish ayatollah who refuses to drink wine out of a bottle touched by a "goy?" Who refuses to shake a woman's hand? Who wouldn't even sit in the same room with Reform and Conservative Jews? This is someone to represent us? Does such a man symbolize the character of our country?
One of the (self-declared) candidates for the presidency spoke several months ago at Bergen Belsen and declared three "enemies of humanity": anti-Semitism, AIDS, and atheism.
One wonders what that individual would have to say about the sworn atheist, Jabotinsky
Ronny A. Brizon was a Knesset member for the Shinui Party
"New Jews" Shulamit Aloni, Zahava Gal On and Ronny Brizon admire their hero
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"Zhid" is the commonly used word for "Jew" in Poland and Russia.
Never heard that it was an "anti-semitic" term.
Is there another word for Jew in Russian or Polish that is acceptable?
"Zhid" is a derogatory word, like n***er for African-American.
The Russian word for "Jew" is "Evrei"
(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")
The Russian word for "Jew" is "Evrei"
It is so Russian. In Polish it is reverse - "Zyd" ("Zhid") is a proper polite name for a Jew while "Jewrej" ("Evrei") is an insult.
Languages are tricky.
BTW the proper Polish word for a Pole is "Polak" ("Polack").
The intolerance of this secularized, leftist "new Jew" is not really shocking (not anymore, not after decades of reading and listening to crap like this), but it is thoroughly disgusting.
Israel is a nation. Like any other nation, it will fail when the people lose faith in the founding principles and symbols of that nation. For Israel, those principles can be boiled down to one thing: it is a refuge for all Jews of all lands, a nation that will protect Jews when other nations either refuse to do so or when there is outright persecution of Jews. But the "new Jew" quite obviously hates the very people for whom Israel was founded, the Jews of Europe and the Arab world who were largely religious, respectful of their heritage and decidedly non-hostile to other Jews (those not non-hostile to those practices forbidden by Jewish law).
To create a secular, socialist society like Ronny Brizon would like to do will doom Israel - because it cuts the heart out of what Israel is supposed to be, it will eliminate the fierce loyalty and willingness to sacrifice for the good of the nation that Israel has benefitted from for nearly 60 years. Eliminate what is special about Israel, and Israel will be just another nation, subject to the normal laws of nations.
Thankfully, Brizon and his comrades have been largely rejected by the Israeli public.
i think in Russian it is "Yeberesky"..
Persons of Jewish origin were over-represented in the Russian revolutionary leadership. However, most of them were hostile to traditional Jewish culture and Jewish political parties, and were eager to prove their loyalty to the Communist Party's atheism and proletarian internationalism, and committed to stamp out any sign of "Jewish cultural particularism". Yevsektsiya members were sometimes derogatorily called Yevseki.
The Zionist forefathers picked the wrong country in which to create "new Jews." In fact, they picked the wrong name for their movement.
What about recreating the Jewish state of three thousand years ago? Is there no alternative to Galut religiosity and "Hebrew" modernity? What about Hebrew antiquity?
Let me get this straight, if you walk around bare headed, that is more Jewish than wearing a keepah and tzitzis?
No, if you hate religious Jews and believe they should be destroyed, that makes you more "Jewish" than keeping the commandments.
Today's left has rejected a universal proletarian culture in favor of particularistic Third World nationalism (in which all classes in the historically oppressed nation cooperate against the plutocratic West, a la Mussolini), with "reactionary" poor whites replacing capitalist fat cats as the oppressive "antithesis" in Hegel's formula. No wonder they regret Japan's defeat in World War II!
if you walk around bare headed, that is more Jewish than wearing a keepah and tzitzis?
No, if you hate religious Jews and believe they should be destroyed, that makes you more "Jewish" than keeping the commandments.
Well, that does explain how the Ten Commandments, the proscription against homosexuality, and Sheishet HaYamim are "anti-Semitic!"
I've never hear of word "Jewrej" being used in Polish language - as a derogatory one, or not.
It's Russian for "a Jew".
Okay, here's the problem. If anti-Semitism is separated from atheism, how does it constitute a threat to mankind? Without the objective reality of G-d and his election of Israel as His People, anti-Semitism is just another form of prejudice or bigotry, and it is that which should be named as an enemy of mankind. Take away G-d and Jews, bigotry against them, and attempts at their mass murder (G-d forbid!) become just another people, another bigotry, and another slaughter among the countless slaughters in human history. Somehow though it is considered self-evident that even apart from G-d Jews and anti-Semitism are "special." The Jews become a "chosen people of secularism" (or "randomness" or whatever one believes in) and the Holocaust becomes a "uniquely typical" event--the one-of-a-kind, never to be repeated example of something that could happen to anyone else at any time. Is not this idea full of contradictions?
If Jews and opposition to them are "self-evidently" different from any other nation and any other prejudice, it is because G-d and the bechirah (election) are self-evidently true. Otherwise the Jews are no different than the Gypsies in Hugo's Notre Dame de Paris.
For a commie pig who is pushing Israel to relinquish territory to appropriate Jabotinsky is repuslsive. For him to use it to attack traditional,ism in a religious zionist is a shunda.
I did, more than one time. Which part of Poland are you from?
Well, I did.
It's Russian for "a Jew".
Yes, and Zyd/Zhid is derogatory term in Russian while it is proper term in Polish.
BTW, do you know what the word "szukac" means in Russian?
There is obviously much more background to this editorial than I was aware of. Indeed, I didn't even read it too closely. I reserve any comments I made to the definitional and do not have any interest in endorsing, challenging, or even thinking too much about this guy's editorial.
It's just a matter of translation. A Jew in Hebrew is Yehudi, and Yivri is only used as applied to the language Yivrit and stems from the nickname of Avraham, who came from Ur (modern Iraq) and local people called him Avrham ha-Yivri, hence, he was the first Jew or Yivri. The origin of the latter word is unknown to me. It's because he was me-Ever (either came from across the river Ever or was from the other side). Maybe there is a Freeper arund who can clarify.
BTW, do you know what the word "szukac" means in Russian?
What does it mean. I speak Russian and I'm mystified.
Yeah, I do :-)))
Definitely not the same like in Polish
I used Polish spelling. Figure that out :)
Something like scshukach. Still doesn't make sense. Can it be some slang I am not aware of. Come on, sing!
I was told by more than one Russian about it. I am not sure how to match Russian spelling/English transliteration, whatever, it is not related to the main topic.
Further proof this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. I, too, know Orthodox Jews who are thoughtful, intelligent people. They believe they are commanded to "love thy neighbor," if not always to embrace their lifestyles. The majority of them to not live in shtetls and shun modern life, and if they do, so what? At least they're not shooting bystanders and sending their sons to be suicide bombers. This guy needs to know who his enemies are.
So this hate-monger can serve in the Knesset, but Kahane can't? Go figure.
Is that something like "ass-kisser"?
Not any more. His party was obliterated at the last election.
Glad to hear that, but unlike Kahane, he was allowed to serve out his term and his party wasn't outlawed.
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