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Jacob Concedes [referendum on immigration issue], Cannon Moves on to General Election
KSL TV ^ | 27 June 2006

Posted on 06/27/2006 10:32:40 PM PDT by Spiff

Jacobs Concedes, Cannon Moves on to General Election

June 27th, 2006 @ 11:12pm

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- U.S. Rep. Chris Cannon, challenged by a political newcomer who accused the five-term incumbent of being soft on illegal immigration, was leading in Utah's Republican primary Tuesday with more than half of precincts reporting.

Cannon led John Jacob 58 percent to 42 percent, or 19,575 votes to 14,395 votes, with 313 of 623 precincts reporting. That includes 100 percent of returns from Juab, Beaver and Millard counties.

The 3rd Congressional District race focused primarily on who stands taller in opposition to Bush's call for a path to citizenship for some 11 million illegal immigrants.

Cannon voted last December for a House bill that would toughen border security, criminalize people who help illegal immigrants and make being in the U.S. without the required papers a felony. But he also supports Bush's proposal for a guest-worker program and says "there's massive room for negotiation."

Cannon's willingness to compromise made him a target of Team America, a conservative group that calls illegal immigration the most critical problem facing the nation. It spent $40,000 on radio ads criticizing him.

Jacob, a millionaire real-estate developer, favors returning illegal immigrants to their home countries before giving them a shot at U.S. citizenship and punishing businesses for hiring them.

At the state Republican convention last month, Jacob captured 52 percent of the delegate votes while Cannon got 48 percent. Sixty percent was needed to avoid Tuesday's primary.

The winner will face Democrat Christian Burridge, among others, in November in a district that anyone but a Republican has little chance of winning. Bush carried the 3rd District with 77 percent of the vote in 2004.

The sprawling district, which stretches south from Salt Lake County and west to Nevada, is heavily Mormon and predominantly white. Hispanics make up about 10 percent of the population; blacks less than 1 percent.

In 1996, Cannon won the seat, in part by arguing that the Democratic incumbent, U.S. Rep. Bill Orton, was soft on immigration. In 2004, Cannon's actions on the issue prompted conservatives to back Matt Throckmorton, who managed 42 percent in his GOP primary loss.

(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006; aliens; baybuchanan; buildthewall; cannon; chriscannon; election2006; electioncongress; getcannonnexttime; gopprimary; illegals; immigrantlist; jacob; libertarianlosers; loonshappy; satan; sorelosers; tancredo
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1 posted on 06/27/2006 10:32:43 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff

This is good news. I live in Utah and Chris Cannon is a good guy.


2 posted on 06/27/2006 10:33:46 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

The people will be watching his votes on illegal immigration.


3 posted on 06/27/2006 10:35:18 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Sunsong

Why were the polls so far off? Will Cannon become a little tougher on illegal immigration.


4 posted on 06/27/2006 10:36:18 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: garbageseeker
Hopefully Mr. Canon has had a 'come to Jesus' moment on the issue.

If not, he'll be toast in two years.

L

5 posted on 06/27/2006 10:36:34 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: Lurker

I hope so. But the nation will be watching him on how he casts his votes on illegal immigration.


6 posted on 06/27/2006 10:38:07 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Mike Darancette; Sunsong
Why were the polls so far off? Will Cannon become a little tougher on illegal immigration.

Why do most polls underestimate Republican turnout in general elections?

7 posted on 06/27/2006 10:39:07 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Its usually the person taking the poll.


8 posted on 06/27/2006 10:41:21 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Sometimes there is other factors such as intensity,or you have some prople saying they are going to the polls and they end up not going.


9 posted on 06/27/2006 10:42:41 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Sometimes, there is bias may show up when taking a poll or even the sample number.


10 posted on 06/27/2006 10:45:31 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: garbageseeker

"The people will be watching ..."

Famous last words. They're probably even true. But they're not necessarily relevant. People watch all kinds of things, like television, while remaining passive. That's what just happened tonight.

The results are even worse than I expected. Politicians don't get serious about something like this unless and until a few lose their jobs over it. And with Republicans, that has to be done in primaries.

A bad night and a bad result for those of us who want to control immigration. And not a good night for democracy, either. It makes you wonder if it still really works.


11 posted on 06/27/2006 10:46:07 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Spiff

OOOPS!


12 posted on 06/27/2006 10:47:02 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: California Patriot

I dont think so. It win the war you must some lose battles.


13 posted on 06/27/2006 10:47:15 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: California Patriot

In World War II, there was some battles that were lost before the war was won. You will lose some battles before you ultimately win the war.


14 posted on 06/27/2006 10:48:52 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Spiff

Considering that it's usually just the base that votes in primaries, that under 20% of the state voted and Cannon scored a double digit win despite the best efforts of an out-of-state PAC, this does send a clear message to the rest of the GOP.


15 posted on 06/27/2006 10:49:09 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Its a mixed message. Bilbray still won.


16 posted on 06/27/2006 10:50:25 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: garbageseeker

I agree. The problem is, we've lost quite a few.

I don't mind losing a few battles, if the general direction of the war is in our favor. But it's far from clear to me that it is. Arguably, we've had almost no victories, and many defeats. While it's true that there haven't been many serious challenges to incumbents based on immigration, and therefore few defeats in that limited respect, it seems to me that the infrequency of serious immigration-based challenges is itself a defeat.

We don't have much time to win this war, which is why I'm impatient. And not optimistic.


17 posted on 06/27/2006 10:50:54 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: garbageseeker

LOL.


18 posted on 06/27/2006 10:51:03 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

I see you did not go to college and studied history huh?


19 posted on 06/27/2006 10:52:26 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Spiff
Chris Cannon is an Open Borders RINO. The people of his district still don't get it.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

20 posted on 06/27/2006 10:53:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: California Patriot

Its the truth. It happens over and over again in history.
The battle may be lost but there are many battles to be fought before we achieve victory.


21 posted on 06/27/2006 10:53:39 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: garbageseeker
I see you did not go to college and studied history huh?

Yes and I learned how to construct a sentence. You on the other hand....

22 posted on 06/27/2006 10:53:42 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: garbageseeker
LOL!

Despite all the hype and efforts of the Tancredo PAC to energize voters and make this a defining issue, under 20% of Utah voters cared enough to vote. Of those that did, Cannon won by a double digit margin.

Seems pretty clear to me.

23 posted on 06/27/2006 10:53:43 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Texasforever

Smoke that steer doo-dee and talk to me later.


24 posted on 06/27/2006 10:54:52 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: CWOJackson

Its one battle in a long war.


25 posted on 06/27/2006 10:55:11 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: garbageseeker

UTAH is DOOOMED!


26 posted on 06/27/2006 10:55:49 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

Stop freebasing that doo-dee.


27 posted on 06/27/2006 10:56:26 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Texasforever


The most Republican state in the union. Yep, it's doomed.


28 posted on 06/27/2006 10:56:46 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Texasforever
I see you took your 'jerk' pills this evening.

You can inform your supplier that they do indeed work.

L

29 posted on 06/27/2006 10:57:44 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: Lurker

He is snorting that steer doo-dee that is in his backyard.


30 posted on 06/27/2006 10:58:29 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: pollyannaish; AmishDude; onyx; LdSentinal; Torie; nopardons; deport; Rex Anderson; ...

The spin has started.


31 posted on 06/27/2006 10:59:09 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Lurker
What's the matter? Are you in a bad mood? LMAO. Tancredo is now irrelevant. When you attack the king make damn sure you kill him. Tiny Tom is about to find that out.
32 posted on 06/27/2006 10:59:17 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: garbageseeker
"Its one battle in a long war."

I hate to break this to you but you folks fired off your big guns and achieve nothing. This wasn't a battle it was a slaughter.

33 posted on 06/27/2006 11:00:18 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Indeed. Garbage in, garbage out. The voters didn't cotton much to outsiders.


34 posted on 06/27/2006 11:01:06 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: California Patriot
And not a good night for democracy, either. It makes you wonder if it still really works.

How so?

35 posted on 06/27/2006 11:01:32 PM PDT by drubyfive
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To: Ironclad

PING!


36 posted on 06/27/2006 11:01:32 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: California Patriot
i don't mind losing a few battles, if the general direction of the war is in our favor. But it's far from clear to me that it is. Arguably, we've had almost no victories, and many defeats.

Up intil 1863, the Union was losing every single battle up until the stalemate in Antietam. George Washington was losing every battle until he crossed the Potomac River. They both won the war.
37 posted on 06/27/2006 11:02:11 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: CWOJackson
It was a lesson. It was a lesson to get better organized.
38 posted on 06/27/2006 11:03:04 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: CWOJackson
Which stage are they in?
  1. We can still win this!
  2. We lost but in reality we won!
  3. We only lost because of the stupid voters!
  4. We only lost because of our stupid campaign manager!
  5. We lost because we're losers.

39 posted on 06/27/2006 11:04:28 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: garbageseeker
"It was a lesson to get better organized."

LOL! At this rate you folks might have a shot at the 3008 race. I hate to point out the obvious (again) but you folks had all your eggs in this basket...and dropped it. You keep wanting to compare this to the civil war...this wasn't even a blip.

40 posted on 06/27/2006 11:05:15 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

I wont arugue with a person like you. Its useless and a waste of my time.


41 posted on 06/27/2006 11:06:22 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: garbageseeker

Yes, but some good causes don't win. The fact that seemingly hopeless causes have occasionally triumphed doesn't prove anything. There are powerful reasons for thinking our society is no longer capable of controlling immigration. I say our society, not just our politicians. If it were just the politicians and not just us, they might eventually go along with us -- probably would. But the problem is us, too. Most of us don't have the guts to work hard for a serious crackdown. I'll believe we're losing battles but winning the war when we actually win a few real battles. Hell, a few big demonstrations against illegals would do. But I'm not holding my breath.

I suspect you're whistling past the graveyard. I would love to be proven wrong.


42 posted on 06/27/2006 11:06:32 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: garbageseeker
"Its useless and a waste of my time."

Kind of like the whole campaign in Utah.

43 posted on 06/27/2006 11:08:03 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: drubyfive

People say they want to crack down on immigration. Yet in one of the most conservative districts in the country, they renominate an open-borders guy. This year and two years ago. Not impressive. If we cannot defend this country's borders -- its very integrity as a society -- by means of the democratic process, the democratic process has failed us.


44 posted on 06/27/2006 11:08:36 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Spiff

I think we'd better all quit paying attention to politics now, just stay home from the polls. Jacobs had a Clayton Williams moment, and enough other background issues came out for him to have effectively pissed away the primary, but hey, it must be that Utah thought exactly the way Cannon thinks on immigration...er, thinks on it THIS week, as opposed to last week, or the week before that. No way could this loss have ANYTHING to do with the candidate's mistakes being trumpeted all over the place, especially in the last week. Cannon spent half again as much plus some as Jacobs did, and Cannon raised far more money from his politico and PAC buddies--but Jacob's $40,000 worth of support from Team America was obviously WAY more important in this race. It MUST be that Jacob's policy arguments were shown to be unappealing, too. Yep, just stop bothering, because the FROBL says this 42/58 vote for Cannon, who on the subject of immigration lied, turned tail, hid, and even put on his web site a banner blaring 'stop illegal immigration,' well, that 42/58 vote is a message on how HIS view of stopping illegal immigration is the one Americans favor.

/blistering sarcasm


45 posted on 06/27/2006 11:09:02 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: garbageseeker

Being stupid is genetic, being ignorant is inexcusable. Because the illegal immigration issue is all that you eat and breath does NOT equate to illegal immigration is all that this country lives and breaths. There are a hundred other issues that are more important to the well being of this country.


46 posted on 06/27/2006 11:09:03 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: California Patriot
Yes, but some good causes don't win. The fact that seemingly hopeless causes have occasionally triumphed doesn't prove anything. There are powerful reasons for thinking our society is no longer capable of controlling immigration. I say our society, not just our politicians. If it were just the politicians and not just us, they might eventually go along with us

I do not believe in cutting and running. We must fight until the last man. Emiliano Zapada once said "Its better to live on your feet than to die on your knees:.
47 posted on 06/27/2006 11:09:54 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: CWOJackson
LOL.

I want to know when they decided that Billbray was one of theirs. Am I remembering that wrong??

BTW, I hate this us and them stuff, so I really should stop using it. I think Illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be tackled. It's the hysterical short sighted tactics that I disagree with.

48 posted on 06/27/2006 11:10:29 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish

It is an issue that needs to be addressed. Fortunately there are fine people like Mike Pence who are addressing it.


49 posted on 06/27/2006 11:12:15 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: pollyannaish

And by the way...it's not you or people like you who have made this an "us" verses "them" issue.


50 posted on 06/27/2006 11:12:50 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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