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GUN-CARRYING MAN FOILS TENDERLOIN ROBBERY
Bay City News Wire ^ | 06/27/06 5:15 PDT

Posted on 06/28/2006 1:12:44 AM PDT by walkerk

Police are searching for a would-be victim who fought back against three armed robbers with his own gun early this morning in the Tenderloin neighborhood, according to San Francisco police Lt. John Loftus.

The three men, one armed with a shotgun, approached a man and a woman on the corner of Leavenworth and Turk streets around 4 a.m. and held them up. Instead of complying, however, the man pulled out a gun of his own and shot all three assailants.

Loftus said the man was acting in self defense, and though he is currently being sought for questioning, police are treating him as the victim in the incident.

The three men, who all suffered non-life-threatening injuries, were arrested shortly afterward. Only minutes before, another attempted robbery was reported in the same area, with the same three men listed as suspects, Loftus said.

The victim in the earlier robbery fended the suspects off with a flashlight before he realized one of the men was holding a shotgun.

"I guess the first guy didn't realize it was a gun," Loftus said.

When the suspects stepped back, however, the victim saw that one of the men was holding a gun so he ran off, escaping without any of his property stolen.

There were no other reports of injuries in the incident. Police did not immediately release the names of anyone involved.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: banglist; caarmedcitizen; sanfrancisco; sf
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Don't expect he'll turn himself in.
1 posted on 06/28/2006 1:12:46 AM PDT by walkerk
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To: walkerk

He was last spotted heading south on Rib Eye Road.


2 posted on 06/28/2006 1:21:26 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: walkerk
police are treating him as the victim in the incident.

Until they can get their hands on him.

3 posted on 06/28/2006 1:21:57 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: walkerk
Was this the guy?

Wait they lived.

4 posted on 06/28/2006 1:28:37 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Cobra64
"He was last spotted heading south on Rib Eye Road."

Moral of the story...don't mess with a man's steak.

5 posted on 06/28/2006 1:29:32 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: glorgau

That's what I was thinking, too.


6 posted on 06/28/2006 1:34:24 AM PDT by Ruth A. (we might as well fight in the first ditch as the last)
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To: walkerk
The three men, who all suffered non-life-threatening injuries,
 
He needs time on the range.

7 posted on 06/28/2006 1:47:43 AM PDT by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: walkerk

I wouldn't. Not in that town. They'd crucify you.


8 posted on 06/28/2006 2:13:59 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Lokibob
That's funny... Though all in all, it seems to have worked out pretty good. He shot them just enough to have them then get arrested. I think that's even funnier.

They get punished, but live. Maybe one or two of them will see the error of their ways, and turn from committing robbery, and get a real job, instead.

Many years ago, in the very same neighborhood, I held off four would-be muggers, without shooting them. One of them appeared to me as being not so hardened as one or two of the other three (particularly one of them, who looked to be hard-core thug). I really didn't want to shoot the guy who loooked like he might have come "from a good home". That one would have gotten it last, if at all. I don't think he realized what was fixing to go down, what a couple of his aquaintenances had in mind.

Last I heard, they were headed the other way, with hard-core saying "that's a crazy f*%#!*$! white boy" hehheh... He got that part straight.

But I didn't want to shoot any of them. Just didn't want to get mugged. Ya' never know just how far that kind of stuff will go, you know? Will it stop with just the wallet "removed", or will serious injury or death follow?

Just another one of those un (officially) -reported instances where a citizen properly exercised their 2 Amendment rights. How many thousands of times a year does that happen in this country, with nobody getting hurt, and no one in the lamestream media hearing about it (or hear it, but are unwilling to write about it), or if it is written about, how many folks just "write it off" as an isolated incident?

Everytime I have a bowel movement, that's an isolated incident. Small potatoes, as it were (as they were?) Do it isolated, but regular enough, multiply by however many thousands or millions of folks live in a given area, and pretty soon, there needs to be a sewage treatment plant, just to deal with all that crap!

9 posted on 06/28/2006 2:28:07 AM PDT by BlueDragon (they always ask, "where'd ya' get him at?", answer---"right through the heart")
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To: Lokibob
Not necessarily. The other guys were armed and he hit all three. Three out of three ain't bad.

Now maybe he needs a bigger gun...

But in San Fran a bigger gun may be hard to conceal. Especially considering it isn't legal to carry there.
10 posted on 06/28/2006 2:29:36 AM PDT by DB (©)
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I wouldn't turn myself in out there. The people in charge of things in California don't seem to have any common sense, most are liberals.


11 posted on 06/28/2006 2:41:19 AM PDT by Racer1
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To: walkerk

They tried to purloin in the tenderloin, but got shot in the the tender loins?


12 posted on 06/28/2006 2:47:30 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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The people in charge of things in California don't seem to have any common sense, most are liberals.

"Common sense" and "liberal" is an oxymoron. One cannot exist with the other....

13 posted on 06/28/2006 2:51:11 AM PDT by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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To: walkerk
The James Madison Research Library and Information Center
"The great object is that every man be armed" and "everyone who is able may have a gun." 1

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined" 2

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" 3
(all emphasis mine)


1. (Patrick Henry, in the Virginia Convention on the ratification of the Constitution. Debates and other Proceedings of the Convention of Virginia,taken in shorthand by David Robertson of Petersburg, at 271, 275 2d ed. Richmond, 1805. Also 3 Elliot, Debates at 386)
2. (Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in the Several State Conventions 45, 2d ed. Philadelphia, 1836)
3. (Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in the Several State Conventions 45, 2d ed. Philadelphia, 1836)

14 posted on 06/28/2006 2:52:53 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Racer1

We're talking San Francisco here, not California per se.


15 posted on 06/28/2006 3:04:55 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: walkerk
Considering it's against the law to possess a gun in the city of San Francisco, figure if this guy turns himself in he'll be prosecuted for that at the the least.
16 posted on 06/28/2006 3:23:06 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: walkerk

I'm sure the victim will get all the sympathy of Berie Goetz... And this after SF voted to ban handguns? Sure, I'd turn myself in...

Mark


17 posted on 06/28/2006 3:37:07 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Junior
Considering it's against the law to possess a gun in the city of San Francisco, figure if this guy turns himself in he'll be prosecuted for that at the the least.

Yep, I'd keep quiet about it myself, that and head to a local gunshop for a larger caliber. Three shot, nonfataly! Go with the desert Eagle .50.

18 posted on 06/28/2006 3:54:39 AM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: MarkL
Well said!

Which raises the issue of the NY subway searches and how inconvenient they are getting to be for those 40'ish, visibly Irish investment bankers who do get searched periodically, and would otherwise be more inclined to protect themselves no matter what the law says.

But I'm not talking about anyone specific here.
19 posted on 06/28/2006 4:14:28 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: glorgau
police are treating him as the victim in the incident.
Until they can get their hands on him.
Exactly. To cooperate with the law in this case would be to give up one's 5th amendment right not to incriminate oneself.

And even if I'm not precisely right about that, think about how sad it is that there would be the least suspicion or the least fear of legal hassle concerning the guy who successfully defended himself against Teddy Kennedy's and Nancy Pelosi's children (LBJ being the grandfather on both sides ...)

Government supported hoodlums terrorize a neighborhood and to survive their depredations is to open oneself to criminal prosecution. Parts of this nation have gotten lost.

20 posted on 06/28/2006 4:31:56 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (If the gates of Hell prevail against it, it probably never was a church anyway.)
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