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Russia 'to kill Iraq kidnappers'
BBC ^ | June 28, 2006 | BBC

Posted on 06/28/2006 8:53:16 AM PDT by sergey1973

Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered special services to "find and destroy" the killers of four Russian diplomats taken hostage in Iraq.

The head of Russia's security services immediately pledged to see Putin's order carried out.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiterrorism; chechnya; findanddestroy; fsb; gwot; iraq; islam; jihad; middleeast; muslims; putin; religionofpeace; rop; russia; securityservices; specialforces; terror; terrorism; trop; waronterror; wot
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While the servile Russian Duma still issues moronic statements blaming the "occupiers" for the death of Russian hostages, at least there is a hope that the real killers will be punished.

Who knows, maybe GazPutin will even stop cozying up to Iran, although I probably aiming too far.

1 posted on 06/28/2006 8:53:19 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: sergey1973

We can help them.


2 posted on 06/28/2006 8:54:07 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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3 posted on 06/28/2006 8:54:22 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: sergey1973

I don't trust Putin and no many other Russians as far as I could throw them. But the staright talk is right on. Can you imagine the media orgasm that would occur if Bush used that language?


4 posted on 06/28/2006 8:55:17 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: sergey1973

The killers could be appointed [i.e. manufactured for the occasion]. How is one to know that they are the real ones?


5 posted on 06/28/2006 8:56:02 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: sergey1973

Is this a vigilante hit squad?

Russia needs to provide troops or police assistance if they want to have the license to kill.


6 posted on 06/28/2006 8:56:06 AM PDT by weegee (If fetal tissue is non-viable, then why are they trying to use it to stimulate cell production?)
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To: sergey1973

I love it. Seek and destroy.


7 posted on 06/28/2006 8:56:41 AM PDT by jw777
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To: sergey1973
You just can't keep anything secret, anymore!
8 posted on 06/28/2006 8:57:11 AM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: sergey1973

The title of this thread is incorrect. Russia has NOT said it would 'kill' the miscreants. Russia has stated clearly they would 'destroy' them. To 'kill' them would imply they are human, as opposed to the monsters they are (with apologies to actual monsters).


9 posted on 06/28/2006 8:57:25 AM PDT by C210N (Bush SPYED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: sergey1973; All
POSTED ALREADY EARLIER Putin Orders Probe into Hostages' Deaths (Sending Forces Into Iraq to Eliminate the Killers!)
10 posted on 06/28/2006 8:57:34 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: GSlob

Good point. But who cares . Kill them all , then you will be certain.


11 posted on 06/28/2006 8:57:43 AM PDT by fantom
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To: sergey1973
Sounds good to me.
12 posted on 06/28/2006 8:58:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: weegee
Russia needs to provide troops or police assistance if they want to have the license to kill.

You are correct. The Russians are ignorant savages.

13 posted on 06/28/2006 8:59:05 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: weegee
"Russia needs to provide troops or police assistance if they want to have the license to kill."

Yeah, I sympathize with them and would gladly point them in the right direction. But they need to work with us and the Iraqis and not cause a PR disaster that we get blamed for.

14 posted on 06/28/2006 9:01:29 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: GSlob

Does it matter.........still sends the same message.....one that even animals can understand.


15 posted on 06/28/2006 9:01:30 AM PDT by newcthem
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To: The South Texan; All

So THIS is what it takes to get Vlad off his lazy commie butt and join the WOT? 4 lousy diplomats killed? The Moscow Opera House attack & the Beslan school attack were what- just hiccups? Hundreds dead, but no biggee! They were just civilians, after all.
Putin is a posturing dirtbag. He was too busy taking Saddam's money with both hands in 2003 to support us in Iraq. Now he wants to be a tough guy? Riiiiight....


16 posted on 06/28/2006 9:04:15 AM PDT by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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To: areafiftyone

Yes, I saw that one too. This thread is an update to yours--Thanks !


17 posted on 06/28/2006 9:04:20 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: sergey1973
"find and destroy" the killers..."

Has a nice ring doesn't it? Politically Correct girly men in Washington would faint at the thought....President Bush is NOT one of those, he is a Man.

18 posted on 06/28/2006 9:04:41 AM PDT by yoe
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To: GSlob
"The killers could be appointed [i.e. manufactured for the occasion]. How is one to know that they are the real ones?"

Ahhh, minor details. Who care who the ruskies kill, so long as they are Iraqi terrorists?

19 posted on 06/28/2006 9:05:30 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: sergey1973

Just recently I revisited the beheading videos from Iraq of various past hostages. These revolting awful clips are reminders of the vicious enemy the MSM and NY SLimes cozies up to. Can't blame Putin one bit but dont fully trust that sneaky ex KGB agent.


20 posted on 06/28/2006 9:08:25 AM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: sergey1973
Vladimir Putin has ordered special services to "find and destroy" the killers


21 posted on 06/28/2006 9:09:37 AM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: newcthem
"Does it matter.........still sends the same message.....one that even animals can understand."
Au contraire. The message bounces. Were it to send the message, both in Iraq, in Chechnya, and in Afghanistan everything now would have been peace and quiet. To send a message that would sink, qualitatively different levels of violence would have to be applied. Soviet Afghanistan excursion killed off about 2 million - 8% of the total population there. But what kind of the message [if any] did sink?
22 posted on 06/28/2006 9:12:29 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: sergey1973
As I asked on another Putin seeking revenge thread, what were unprotected Russian diplomats doing in this civil war quagmire savaged land in the first place? Saddam is in jail. Our media has warned the whole earth what a mess we have created in Iraq.

Now we have been hearing that JFKerry for president line of the international 'peace, peace, peace' with the insurgents talks being promoted by the global media gods, so I am curious about the timing and what is really on the agenda?

Putin is hosting the G-8 Summit soon and he has said it is to be about 'energy security'. So were these diplomats killed near any of Iraq's oil production centers? Only partial sarcasm.
23 posted on 06/28/2006 9:12:46 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: The South Texan

" Can you imagine the media orgasm that would occur if Bush used that language?"

"Media orgasm" is priceless ! The phrase cracked me up -:))))

Now, just imagine if Putin stopped aiding Iran and other psycho regimes and realized that undermining the United States in the long term is undermining Russian security too.

Using FSB thugs to hunt down Jihadist thugs (and other real thugs) instead of arresting human rights activists and scientists is the only proper use of FSB.

Again, I am probably aiming too far, but who knows ? -:)))


24 posted on 06/28/2006 9:13:40 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: The South Texan

" Can you imagine the media orgasm that would occur if Bush used that language?"

"Media orgasm" is priceless ! The phrase cracked me up -:))))

Now, just imagine if Putin stopped aiding Iran and other psycho regimes and realized that undermining the United States in the long term is undermining Russian security too.

Using FSB thugs to hunt down Jihadist thugs (and other real thugs) instead of arresting human rights activists and scientists is the only proper use of FSB.

Again, I am probably aiming too far, but who knows ? -:)))


25 posted on 06/28/2006 9:13:51 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: sergey1973
Count Vlad Putin vs The Jihadi pigs


26 posted on 06/28/2006 9:17:07 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: GSlob

Even OJ can't find the "real killers".


27 posted on 06/28/2006 9:18:40 AM PDT by oyez (Appeasement is insanity)
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To: Just mythoughts

I'm not too good in conspiracy theories. I obviously have no idea what Russian Diplomats were doing there. Maybe collecting intelligence, maybe something else ?

The bottom line is they were grizly murdered by Islamic thugs as were 2 US soldiers before them. All I want is to have these Islamist monsters being hunt down and dealt with appropriately, and I think using FSB for this is the appropriate use of FSB.


28 posted on 06/28/2006 9:20:41 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: sergey1973

I understand their desire for a response, and making a noise could be helpful if only to call attention to the unacceptability of insurgents' and terrorists' actions. But how about providing solid help to the peacekeeping efforts? Not to mention the diplomatic efforts to bring about reform in the region.


29 posted on 06/28/2006 9:21:44 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: sergey1973

The Russians don't screw around. They did exactly this when one of their agents got killed in Lebanon back in the 70s. That was the end of terrorists messing with them until these Iraqi bozos forgot the Russian rules--or never knew them.

I wish we played the same way--but we have to make nice and talk about 'bringing them to justice'


30 posted on 06/28/2006 9:23:03 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: NutCrackerBoy

"I understand their desire for a response, and making a noise could be helpful if only to call attention to the unacceptability of insurgents' and terrorists' actions. But how about providing solid help to the peacekeeping efforts? Not to mention the diplomatic efforts to bring about reform in the region."

Well--I doubt that Putin will become partner with US on this one. However, if he at least could help in hunting the insurgents, that would be a big help.


31 posted on 06/28/2006 9:24:14 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: sergey1973

Time will tell if there is a conspiracy or not. After all these years of Russia taking the insurgents/Saddam's side in this land of flowing oil, and now out of nowhere there appears an opening for their fire power seems out of the ordinary.

I do not take kindly to having a Saddam backing finger of accusation coming out of Russia for US making Iraq a dangerous place.


32 posted on 06/28/2006 9:26:06 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: sergey1973
From Russia with Love!
33 posted on 06/28/2006 9:29:35 AM PDT by cartan
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To: sergey1973

I remember the famous story attributed to former CIA head William Casey. Hezbollah kidnapped a couple of Russia diplomats in Beruit around 1982. The KGB snatched a couple of cousins of the (suspected) kidnappers, killed them and left their corpses with their penises sewed in their mouths. The Russian ('cusa me, Soviet) diplomats quickly materialized, unharmed.

Casey's comment: The KGB speaks Hezbollah's language.


34 posted on 06/28/2006 9:30:09 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: sergey1973
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered special services to "find and destroy" the killers of four Russian diplomats taken hostage in Iraq.

The head of Russia's security services immediately pledged to see Putin's order carried out.

Did the UN approve this plan?

Will the axis of whiners start whining?

35 posted on 06/28/2006 9:34:32 AM PDT by RJL
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To: DannyTN
But they need to work with us and the Iraqis and not cause a PR disaster that we get blamed for.

If they are smart they will do it clandestine and do not tell anyone. And it would not be a PR disaster, this will have beneficial impact.

36 posted on 06/28/2006 9:38:01 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: Just mythoughts
As I asked on another Putin seeking revenge thread, what were unprotected Russian diplomats doing in this civil war quagmire savaged land in the first place?

Iraqi state exists, at least officially and has diplomatic ties in form of embassies.

37 posted on 06/28/2006 9:40:34 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: sergey1973

I wonder if Putin wants to kiss their tummys first...


38 posted on 06/28/2006 9:44:05 AM PDT by Element187
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I obviously have no idea what Russian Diplomats were doing there.

There are still foreign embassies in Baghdad. Should they be closed? Should Iraqi government have diplomatic status and recognition in the world?

39 posted on 06/28/2006 9:47:12 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: sergey1973
Maybe our troops could pay protection money to Russia. Any terrorist kills an American, Vlad sends Luca Brasi.


40 posted on 06/28/2006 9:48:49 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: sergey1973

What do the advocates of terrorists' rights have to say about this?


41 posted on 06/28/2006 9:50:07 AM PDT by RAldrich
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To: sergey1973

If Putin stops kissing young boys on the stomach and starts focusing on the War on Terror, it's a step in the right direction.


42 posted on 06/28/2006 10:32:47 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: 95 Bravo

A "license to kill" was good enuf for 007.


43 posted on 06/28/2006 10:34:07 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: sergey1973

Interesting view old Vlad has of Iraqi sovereignty. With no troops involved in ops in Iraq, close ties with the dude on trial, oil for scandal participation, and obstruction to our [and Iraqi] efforts at every turn; he's just going to send in a hit squad in country. Who does he think he is, the Czar? Or "great" Stalin?


44 posted on 06/28/2006 10:39:11 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Just mythoughts

"I do not take kindly to having a Saddam backing finger of accusation coming out of Russia for US making Iraq a dangerous place."


I surely understand that. Putin's support for Saddam and Iranian Fanatics is both stupid and dangerous, but at least if Putin at least can deliver a few Islamist heads, I won't mind -:))))


45 posted on 06/28/2006 10:40:06 AM PDT by sergey1973
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To: Dilbert56
Vlad sends Luca Brasi.

don't forget..Brasi was killed and sent "sleeping with the fishes"..

46 posted on 06/28/2006 10:47:41 AM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: Ciexyz

"If Putin stops kissing young boys on the stomach and starts focusing on the War on Terror, it's a step in the right direction."


I'm afraid to ask!


47 posted on 06/28/2006 10:49:30 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: DannyTN

Danny - at this point what is one more PR disaster? When the Iraqi gangs can do what they did to two of our finest last week and CAIR nor any of the other arabIraqi organizations condemned it....when the NYT and the rest of our media is fighting against us.....when the left/demos are working hand in hand with the murdering savages.... at this moment, I just really don't care anymore about being PC or PR disasters


48 posted on 06/28/2006 11:00:50 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: JZelle; Ciexyz

"I'm afraid to ask!"


Oh my!! I just saw the story. Nevermind.


49 posted on 06/28/2006 11:08:42 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: daybreakcoming

I wasn't thinking of our PR. I just don't want the Russians to go blow up a neighborhood wedding and it really be a wedding.


50 posted on 06/28/2006 11:29:06 AM PDT by DannyTN
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