Skip to comments.Planned Parenthood Celebration Jolted by Abortion Survivor [Colorado]
Posted on 06/28/2006 11:25:07 AM PDT by Salvation
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I guess how her hypoxia came about could have been cause by toxicity. How she escaped horrible injury is probably due to what we Christians call a miracle. I know as a Christian you believe in that. If you want to look at a medical reason for how she escaped horrible injury, maybe the solution given wasn't strong enough to cause severe burns or maybe she aborted faster.. before it could burn her skin. Only God knows the answer.
Gotta run and get back to work. Lunch break over, LOL! Have a nice day.
Thankyou SO MUCH for this thread. I have read her book and wept through the entire book!! It is a MUST read for anyone serious about pro life!!!
This wasn't a lie. Read her book and get the FULL story.
We may be working at cross meanings. I was criticizing Harvey's actions with regard to the Colorado legislature and not Jessen's story. I do not doubt her story in the least.
The only exception I might have is the claimed medical relationship between the attempted abortion, the lack of oxygen during birth and her cerebral palsy and she simply may be repreating what the doctors told her at the time, and some of the medical thinking has changed since then.
There is a lot of her story that is not in the above article. Could you give me a summary of the book and what it adds?
Really? If your attitude is that the only authorative sites are yours, I'm done debating with you. I feel that you're angry because you were proven to be wrong when you stated with absolute surety that it wasn't caused by lack of oxygen to the brain and I showed sites where it was.
Not only were you so sure of yourself, you went on to insult people who didn't agree with you by putting them in the same class as John Edwards. Actually, Edwards was right in this case and you weren't.
Now I can pull up as many or more sites that contradict that of Mayo Clinic which is not as highly esteemed in America as the Cleveland Clinic. To what avail? Just to have you say that yours are more authorative? I don't have time to play games.
I never stated categorically, as you are doing, one way or the other the origin of hers or anyone elses CP. Reread my post. I'm saying it's an open question, but you just can't admit any level of uncertainty can you? You're right and everyone else is wrong? Done indeed.
Reality is far more insidious. The leftist defending the slaughter of unborn alive children know damn well the children are alive in the womb; the truly sick and dirty truth is, they deem the slaughter a right of women ... that's right, the leftists defending this holocaust believe it is right to promote the wholesale slaughter because it empowers liberalism. THAT is demonic in nature, a concept the left scoffs the louder at, spitting in God's eye every time they do it yet they do it under the satanic guise of religion, with people like Revs. Barry Lynd and Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson, and professional liar politicians like Al Goreghoul, and bill'pants on fire'clinton, and Dungheap Harkin, and Babs'catbox'Boxer, Ted'the swimmer'Kennedy, and ... well, the list is too long to place it all on this thread, but suffice it to say the list is mostly full of democrat party leadership, with a Specter and a Frist tossed in here and there. There is no delusion, it is willful service to evil for empowerment's sake.
LB is a (in Seinfeld's words) 'last worder', so debating isn't really the exercise with LB, getting the last word in is what it's all about. It really cannot help itself ...
Excellent guerrilla warfare against the Party of Death.
Let's do this on some other issues, too.
The article no anyone on this thread ever said if they State House went ahead and voted to honor Rocky Mountain PP's 90th anniversary of if the vote was cancelled, failed or what.
Somebody help the boy out here. I'm assuming they went ahead and voted to give the honor to the baby killers.
Earlier in this thread or through a link to another thread on this event I think the vote went 20 to 11 to commend PP-hood.
You assert something and I suggest that the situation might be not quite be that clear cut. Neither of you can stand having someone question your dogmatic hard-wired narrow-minded point of view and then have a civil discussion about the issue wih an admission the other guy might have a point.
Your problem, not mine.
p.s. If you're getting your philosophy of life from Seinfeld you might want to work on that.
**Excellent guerrilla warfare against the Party of Death.
Let's do this on some other issues, too.**
Great idea! Thanks.
Name of the book, please.
Excuse me, but "dogmatic, hard wired narrow minded point of view" brings this conversation down to a personal level. I suggest that you take ten deep breaths and calm down.
That the majority of the world knows nothing of the realities of the Christian life--and more importantly, has little or no interest and/or respect for it--yet feels more absolute freedom i.e., greater "righteous indignation"--to jump on anyone who calls themself a Christian they perceive as having stepped over the bounds of what they think they know about being a "good Christian"--in a way that NO other group is faced with is known to be a fact by anyone who has truly attempted the Christian life in the world for any length of time.
It's just part of the spiritual warfare raging all around us that for Christians to say something is wrong is bigotry, but to make generalizations about Christians being "narrow minded", "hateful", "bigots", etc, etc is somehow exempt from such immediate blanket condemnation.
For anyone to say otherwise is about a valid as a white person dismissing the claims of personal experiences of racism by a black person by telling him or her that there is no racial prejudice toward black people in this nation and they can prove it because they them self have never experienced it.
I think it is fair to say that anyone truly attempting to live the Christian life would likely agree as result of personal experience that the world (those with zero understanding of/interest in/respect for the Christian life) feel free to criticize Christians' for perceived failures like NO other group in the world.
Personally I think it is a mistake for Christians to sound as if we see ourselves in the role of standing in judgment of the behaviors of others as if we "hold yourself up as a standard of moral authority". Many of the Christians I've known do not go around doing this, yet it is common that anyone who has publicly identified himself as Christian is attacked as if by hungry jackals as if they do whenever they have some "sin" exposed.
As Christians, we are not trying to earn our salvation or even favor with God, but rather seek to live according to a higher standard to serve and to bring honor to God-- but, of course, we fight our selfish human nature and constantly fall short.
The only real "higher standard" is between us and the Lord. And, I agree, any true believer has an obligation to hold ourselves to a higher standard, according to the level of our maturity in our faith, and part of Christian fellowship includes holding each other to account. But what I was referring to is the open season on Christians, which is about a valid as someone who has never even heard of baseball before being told its about using a bat to hit a ball and score runs and then being told to go and umpire a game.
Most true Christians I know acknowledge themselves as merely "sinners saved by grace", but are accused of being "self-righteous" and "giving Christianity a bad name" if we dare say we think something is wrong.
I know for myself I DO sound "righteous" sometimes, but it is generally due to a combination my own human weaknesses--I seem to somehow fall well short of the perfection of Christ every time-- as well as an at least somewhat justified indignation at hearing the same trite criticisms from those who don't have any idea what they're talking about.
This was posted several times to the News/Activism Forum, 2 weeks ago.
But it certainly has not made it to the pages of the NYT, Baltimore Sun, OpinionJournal.com, RealClearPolitics.com, or conservative talk shows.
The more times such a powerful item is posted, the better.
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Great story bump!
I sometimes wonder why some feel a need to pursue truth and others are not bothered by such a nagging need, but once we acknowledge that there is such a thing as absolute, unchanging truth among the tangle of lies and illusions it is impossible to be have any level of self-respect without making an effort to live it--imperfect as our efforts will always be.
This may be one of the best examples of democRATs looking foolish since bill clinton needed a dictionary for a two letter word or the hillary "plantation" remark.
"...honoring the 90th anniversary of Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains."
Something tells me they would be more reluctant to honor the anniversary of the death-penalty. But then again, the death penalty kills murderers and rapists, so the democRATs wouldn't be able to fulfill their lust for killing babies.
PS: If all the murderers and rapists got the death-penalty, there would be no more democRAT politicians.
You have smoked too many locomotive weeds.
You don't have any idea what you're talking about.
Miss Jessen is in a new 527 ad speaking about Obama's support of infanticide.