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Sensitive Superman Returns(dumbed down girlie-man version slacker metrosexual) [spoiler]
http://www.frontpagemag.com ^ | June 28, 2006 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 06/28/2006 4:41:44 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

So Lois Lane is a single mother . . . and a slut. That's the most disturbing part of "Superman Returns," heavily marketed to kids and in theaters tonight.

Or is that "Lois and Her Feelings," co-starring Supe? That's what this dull, 2-hour 33-minute long latest rendition in the Superman series seemed like.

A better version would have been more relevant. It's great that new Superman Brandon Routh saluted America's troops as "the real Super Heroes," a tie-in with Warner Brothers Pictures' effort to send a million plus postcards of support to troops overseas.

But put your money where your mouth is. In World War II, Superman's comic book inventors had him fighting the Nazis. Today, they won't dare show him fighting contemporary Nazis--Islamofascists. Lex Luthor working with Al-Qaeda terrorists, with both evil forces getting defeated--that would have been dynamic and exciting, a great plot. But, unfortunately, too politically incorrect, current, and exciting for the Hollywood culturatti.

Some have asked whether Superman is still relevant post-9/11. He would be . . . if he was fighting the post-9/11 enemy and being a man while doing so.

Instead, we got a dumbed down, girlie-man version of Superman in "Superman Returns." Like every sensitive, slacker metrosexual, Supe's gone off for five years to "discover himself." In the meantime, the dullest Lois Lane ever has a child out of wedlock. Nice message to send to your kids who will be begging to see this. No smoking lectures by Superman and plugs for tofu sandwiches got a lot of play though. Script-writers were more concerned with that kind of health than the splendid problems single motherhood brings.

In what is more reminiscent of a Maury Povich "Who's the Daddy?" show than a Superman plot, Lois apparently slept around and thinks the cutesy kid--very annoying and distracting in the film--is her fiance's child, not that of the other guy she was simultaneously sleeping with--the Man of Steel.

Hard to still call him that, because in this film he's far less muscular. Even the formerly bright red of his cape is now a muted, dingy brownish-burgundy. All masculinity is toned down, in favor of the testosterone of career woman Lois, who doesn't believe in marriage. Too busy riding the space shuttle.

That hardly makes her spectacular. Kate Bosworth has nothing on Margot Kidder (aside from her far-left wackoism) or even Terry Hatcher. Their renditions of Ms. Lane were far superior. Bosworth's is as ho-hum as the lady at the supermarket looking for her Clairol fix. The only thing that seems apropos is Lane's Pulitzer Prize for her "Why the World Doesn't Need Superman." It's the work of unethical journalism--a "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" by a jilted lover against her boyfriend.

In the real world's Daily Planet a/k/a The New York Times, the "Pulitzer-level" stuff is "Why Al-Qaeda is Less Dangerous to the World Than President Bush."

And by the way, there's no Internet in this movie--a glaring absence when Lois' editor is lecturing about what sells newspapers. Uh, nothing sells newspapers these days. They're in rapid decline.

There are no memorable lines like the ones Margot Kidder's Lois uttered to Christopher Reeve's Supe: "You've got me? Who's got you?"

More like, who's got this movie?

With a $300 million budget, Warner Brothers must have a hit with this film. There's so much marketing hype and so many product tie-ins, it will be hard for it to fail. And with newcomer Brandon Routh's spot on impersonation of Christopher Reeve playing Clark Kent/Supe, he's not as difficult to adjust to as Bosworth's Lois. His imitation invites the comparison, and he doesn't live up to it. Christopher Reeve can smile from the grave that he died undefeated champion of Superman portrayals.

"Supe Returns" writers also paid too much attention to the accuracy of minute and unimportant details, such as the fact that Kryptonite was found in Addis Ababa. But who cares about those things?

Is that more important than the messages projected to America's kids--especially girls who may want to emulate Lois Lane? And is it more important than an exciting, believable, and relevant plot? Hardly.

Still, aside from it's dullness and the poor examples it sets for kids, "Superman Returns" is a fun, escapist film.

But nothing to write home--or even, Krypton--about.


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"...we got a dumbed down, girlie-man version of Superman in "Superman Returns." Like every sensitive, slacker metrosexual, Supe's gone off for five years to "discover himself." In the meantime, the dullest Lois Lane ever has a child out of wedlock. Nice message to send to your kids who will be begging to see this. No smoking lectures by Superman and plugs for tofu sandwiches got a lot of play though. Script-writers were more concerned with that kind of health than the splendid problems single motherhood brings."
1 posted on 06/28/2006 4:41:47 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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And I thought Christopher Reeves was a sorry superman. Yikes!


2 posted on 06/28/2006 4:46:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: BenLurkin
It's no longer "Superman"

It's "Sssuperman".

3 posted on 06/28/2006 4:48:56 PM PDT by capt. norm (W.C. Fields: "The time has come to take the bull by the tail and face the situation".)
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To: Para-Ord.45

bttt


4 posted on 06/28/2006 4:49:44 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Para-Ord.45

Insert Jack Bauer comment here.


5 posted on 06/28/2006 4:51:17 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: capt. norm

"Thooperman"?


6 posted on 06/28/2006 4:51:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Saw the movie this morning. It is well worth the ticket price.


7 posted on 06/28/2006 4:52:41 PM PDT by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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To: BenLurkin

Come to think of it, I like George Reeves even better, now that I am an adult.


8 posted on 06/28/2006 4:52:59 PM PDT by ROTB
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To: ROTB
He was always a good guy . . .

And Lois Lane was NOT a hooor . . .

9 posted on 06/28/2006 4:57:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Maybe DC Comics is finally learning that what made Marvel Comic characters so great was the "human" effect. Marvel characters all had real weaknesses, and "real life" issues to deal with especially with their alter egos. They were just more "believable" as people than Superman or Batman.


10 posted on 06/28/2006 4:58:08 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Para-Ord.45

Hollywood is in a rut. I guess it's hard for these guys to act out of their persona, though.


11 posted on 06/28/2006 4:58:57 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: ROTB
George Reeves

Faster than a speeding bullet? I think not.

12 posted on 06/28/2006 4:59:29 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: afnamvet

What's your thoughts on the movie?


13 posted on 06/28/2006 5:00:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

This is the same director who made Magneto a "good" guy fighting against homophobes.


14 posted on 06/28/2006 5:00:29 PM PDT by weegee (If fetal tissue is non-viable, then why are they trying to use it to stimulate cell production?)
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To: Para-Ord.45

New tagline?

"You will believe a man can cry."


15 posted on 06/28/2006 5:01:37 PM PDT by weegee (If fetal tissue is non-viable, then why are they trying to use it to stimulate cell production?)
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To: BenLurkin

Ah, Phyllis Coates! The ONLY Lois Lane for me - spunky and cute. And George Reeve's version of Supes looks beter all the time. . .


16 posted on 06/28/2006 5:02:18 PM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: BenLurkin
And I thought Christopher Reeves was a sorry superman. Yikes!

I thought he was great when he was Superman, but terrible when he was Clark Kent.

17 posted on 06/28/2006 5:09:43 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Para-Ord.45
I dunno - might be a great movie in need of a less than limp public relations campaign, but honestly, didn't you doubt it just a little when the first thing you heard about it was "Listen here, Mister, this Superman is not gay!" I mean, it might not have crossed your mind until it was hotly denied.
18 posted on 06/28/2006 5:13:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Para-Ord.45

"I'm here to fight for Truth, and Justice, and the American Way." - Superman (1978)


"I'm here to fight for Truth, and Justice, and all of that stuff." - Superman (2006)

They changed it to make it more marketable outside the US. So the ultimate American super hero has been watered down by the idiots in Hollywood. I for one wont be seeing this movie.

http://movies.go.com/jeannewolf?columnid=837103


19 posted on 06/28/2006 5:14:03 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: DoughtyOne

I won't expose the plot. Incredibe special effects and sound. Routh presents a Superman that is in the vein of Reeve. Bosworth makes a more believable Lois than Kidder.

Perry and Olsen are well acted, especially Olsen.

Great storyline. Tear-jerky close to the finale.


20 posted on 06/28/2006 5:14:13 PM PDT by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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To: afnamvet

Most of these people are pissed off about it being in color.


21 posted on 06/28/2006 5:14:54 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: nonliberal

Funny how in the TV show he stood up to the bullets but always ducked when they threw the gun at him.


22 posted on 06/28/2006 5:15:06 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: afnamvet

I may be one of the few, but I think that Kate Bosworth is incredibly beautiful, even if she can't act.


23 posted on 06/28/2006 5:16:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: driftdiver

" I went straight to the writers, Mike Dougherty and Dan Harris:

Mike: "When it comes to the American way, that's tricky."
Dan: "I don't think 'the American way' means what it meant in 1945."
Mike: "He's not just for Metropolis, and not just for America."
Dan: "He's an alien, from Krypton; he has come to Earth to be kind of a savior for this world, not our country … And he has no papers."
Mike: "What would happen with the immigration laws we have now?"
Dan: "I'd like to see someone kick him out!" "

HOLLYWEIRD AT IT`S FINEST


24 posted on 06/28/2006 5:18:48 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Luis Gonzalez

LOL!


25 posted on 06/28/2006 5:19:10 PM PDT by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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To: afnamvet

Kidder was a 'barf-alert' moment for me. She looked and seemed more like a mother than a wife. That was a casting call I'll never understand.

Thanks for the comments.


26 posted on 06/28/2006 5:20:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: wagglebee

Kate was aloof a little in her role but name a female reporter who isn't. Helen Thomas doesn't count. LOL!


27 posted on 06/28/2006 5:21:38 PM PDT by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I've always preferred Batman to Superman. Even when DC comics were a dime apiece.

Never thought much of Christopher Reeve's Superman/Clark Kent when placed opposite The Adventures of Superman. Though the 90's Warner Brothers Animated Series is quite good. The voice actors are dead-on, especially Clancy Brown as Lex Luthor.

When all is said and done, George Reeves will always be Superman!

Jack.


28 posted on 06/28/2006 5:24:20 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: Jack Deth
George Reeves will always be Superman!

Yep. And to me Adam West will always be Batman!



Work with me here, people...

29 posted on 06/28/2006 5:27:38 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Luis Gonzalez; afnamvet
Most of these people are pissed off about it being in color.

I can tolerate that. When I need a B&W fix I can just watch my Richard Greene "The Adventures of Robin Hood" DVDs, or perhaps my Richard Boone "Have Gun, Will Travel".

I will probably see this movie, but I agree with Schlussel's point about the Lois Lane/child out of wedlock character. They could have written the part where she was divorced, or even widowed (for that extra pathos bump), but they chose not to. It was totally unnecessary and was done solely and deliberately to further an agenda.

30 posted on 06/28/2006 5:29:47 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Jack Deth

Spidey rules, Jack!!

:)


31 posted on 06/28/2006 5:30:17 PM PDT by Landry Fan (Diana Irey for Congress. Murtha needs to go.)
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To: tarheelswamprat
"It was totally unnecessary and was done solely and deliberately to further an agenda."

Yeah...like acknowledging the reality of the millions of single/unwed mothers in our society today.

Imagine that!

A movie actually bothering to deal with realities we'd rather ignore!

Reality...just another liberal agenda.

32 posted on 06/28/2006 5:33:57 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: tarheelswamprat
I will probably see this movie, but I agree with Schlussel's point about the Lois Lane/child out of wedlock character. They could have written the part where she was divorced, or even widowed (for that extra pathos bump), but they chose not to. It was totally unnecessary and was done solely and deliberately to further an agenda.

I hope this isn't a spoiler, but there's been a lot of speculation (not directly addressed in the movie, either way - so I don't think it's a spoiler) that, since this movie keeps the first two Christopher Reeve movies as canon/history, the father of Lois's child is really ... well, someone who kinda disappeared for five years or so.

Assuming this movie succeeds, we may get to find out in a sequel.
33 posted on 06/28/2006 5:35:54 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Para-Ord.45
Instead, we got a dumbed down, girlie-man version of Superman in "Superman Returns."

Like Batman Beyond. He minces around like a ballet dancer.

34 posted on 06/28/2006 5:38:32 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Billthedrill

You know, Hollywood could mess up a free lunch.

If they had just done this movie in the same way that Reeve's movies were made, and used, "TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND THE AMERICAN WAY", they'd have had a mega hit. Young parents have no options these days, even the cartoon movies are socialist propaganda. Tofu sandwiches? This PC clunker goes on my "must miss" list.


35 posted on 06/28/2006 5:40:13 PM PDT by ishabibble
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Reality...just another liberal agenda.

LOL.

36 posted on 06/28/2006 5:40:55 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Para-Ord.45
Saw it this weekend, at a free sneak preview at the base theater with my son. Being 10 he's been introduced to Superman through "Smallville" and DVDs of the Cris Reeves Superman movies.
We and about 900 people there loved it and were cheering at parts. The effects were great, and the story was pretty good. But then it doesn't take a whole lot to keep a bunch of Squids entertained *L*
37 posted on 06/28/2006 5:43:59 PM PDT by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: driftdiver

Truth Justice--and all that stuff.


Bwahahahahaahaha talk about writers with no balls. they cant even say AMERICA.


38 posted on 06/28/2006 5:58:39 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Billthedrill; Landry Fan
George Reeves will always be Superman!


Though Michael Keaton was a good Batman, Christian Bale is far superior in "Batman Returns". The only Batman film that finally got it RIGHT!


Spidey rules, Jack!!


Hi, Landry Fan!


Hope you are feeling better and I'll see you at the Friday Night FReep.


I bow to your knowlege and wisdom concerning all things Landy and Cowboys. I've followed Peter Parker/Spiderman ever since his beginnings with Marvel.


The Stan Lee/Jack Kirby/Johnny Romita Original Spiderman seemed way cooler when he was fighting lightweights. Didn't much care for the Green Goblin film, though Doctor Octopus proved a very fornmidable Bad Guy in the second film.


Don't even get me started on the bastardized, re-tooled "Ultimate Marvel" Universe or the Fantastic Four film. Michael Chiklis as The Thing was the only thing good about it.


Jack.
39 posted on 06/28/2006 6:02:47 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: weegee

Magneto was a member of the X-Men for a time in the comics. So blame Stan Lee for that one.

Bryan Singer is an incredibly gifted director, and I can't wait to see this movie.


40 posted on 06/28/2006 6:07:12 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: Para-Ord.45; All

IOW PCuperman.

This monstrosity was in the works for years.

The been jonesing to redu the superman costume,

They TRIED to make the jimmy olson character a homosexual but had to back off when fans objected.

The notion of this PATHETIC feminist Lois Lane makes me want to see this turkey even less.

No wonder the trailers are emphasising the special effects, the story line must really suck.

So far it seems there is nothing super about superman.

Obviously whoever wrote this script has no idea about the history of superman or patriotism for that matter.


41 posted on 06/28/2006 6:13:31 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: driftdiver

barf! that is lousy to change "American Way" and replace it with "all that stuff."

I'll stay home.


42 posted on 06/28/2006 6:17:09 PM PDT by Landry Fan (Diana Irey for Congress. Murtha needs to go.)
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To: ishabibble

Don't forget "superman and the quest for peace" THAT was a PC mega turkey.

You are absolutly right, I don't think hollyweird has the intelectual capacity to understand "truth, justice, and the american way."

Instead we get "mouse, estrogen, and the neutered way" version of superman.


43 posted on 06/28/2006 6:25:32 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Jack Deth

Hi Jack. Not sure about Walter Reed on Friday night. If I feel better I'd love to be there.

As for FF, I like the actor who was Mr. Fantastic. Ioan Something or other. His name is Welsh and I can never spell it. He rocks.


44 posted on 06/28/2006 6:27:52 PM PDT by Landry Fan (Diana Irey for Congress. Murtha needs to go.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Obviously whoever wrote this script has no idea about the history of superman or patriotism for that matter.

Actually, Kevin Smith of "Clerks" and "Dogma" fame was contacted in the early 90's to write a script for a Superman film. Back in the days when Nicholas Cage was slated to play Superman.

He tried to play it by the books and Mythos of the Son Of Krypton and the Man Of Steel. Every time he sent in a draft, it was massacred by the director (Babs Streisand's ex, Jon Peters; who wanted to do away with the red and blue suit and cape right off the bat) producers, product tie-in people and legal suits.

Smith finally got fed up, took their money and walked away from the project. I guess it only spiraled downhill from there.

Jack.
45 posted on 06/28/2006 6:32:02 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: Landry Fan
that is lousy to change "American Way" and replace it with "all that stuff."
See, I think this is the media trying to create a controversy that isn't there.

The line was used following Superman's initial appearance (after a five-year absence), when Perry White asks his reporters, "Politics? Does he still stand for Truth, Justice, and all that stuff?"

It was perfectly within both his character and the flow of the story. Of course, if Superman himself had said it, it would have an entirely different context. But he didn't.

And I thought it was a wonderful movie, though some of the violence and situations are too intense for extremely young children, IMO. I heartily recommend it.
46 posted on 06/28/2006 6:37:03 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

I'm glad to hear that :)

Thanks for the mini-review.


47 posted on 06/28/2006 6:41:25 PM PDT by Landry Fan (Diana Irey for Congress. Murtha needs to go.)
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To: All

Heads up folks, it seems we have some viral advertising promoters on the site.


48 posted on 06/28/2006 6:42:32 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I disagree with most of what is said and while I wish Superman was fighting terorists in the movie this stuff about the slutty Lois is wrong.

This Lois is no slut. In Superman 2 Lois and Clark get married and have sex while he is human. Lois' memory of those events are wiped clean and Superman leaves (Superman 3&4 never happened). Ok Lois ends up pregnant and the man that made her that way is gone. What does she do does she run out and get on welfare? No she finds a man and gets engaged Thats the right thing to do. When Superman comes back does she just throw away the fiancee that has raised her son and jump into Superman's arms like he wants her to do. No NO NO she calls her fiancee a good man and for the sake of her son stays with a man she does not love as much as she loves superman. My GOD that is a conservative value. Everyone attacking this movie for Lois having a child out of wedlock are wrong.

Now Superman going to find himself? If you were the last person alive and you thought just maybe you could find more people would you go look. What happened in Superman 2 convinced Clark he could never be with Lois (although he has changed his mind) so he goes and looks for other slike him. Thats not finding yourself.


I could not tell if the filmmaker was making this a Christian Allegory or mocking Christian allegories. There is so much of the religious in this movie.

Superman tells Lois at one point. "You said the world doesn't need salvation but why do I hear the world calling out for a savior."

There is the scene about the Father being the Son and the Son being the Father.

The scene where Superman is stabbed in his side and his beating were straight out of the passion.

There is just scene after scene where Superman is shown as a Christ figure and it isn't a mistake these things are there intentionally. Despite the fact that this was made by serious leftists and religion haters I felt a very religious reaction to the movie. I think maybe the film maker tried to mock Christ and in doing so created a movie that really uplifts. Much like Lion the witch and the wardrobe is allegory the story seems so right.


49 posted on 06/28/2006 6:45:57 PM PDT by Sentis
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To: driftdiver

Superman doesnt say that Perry White does. What would the owner of a MSM outlet say today?


50 posted on 06/28/2006 6:47:31 PM PDT by Sentis
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