Skip to comments.Schwarzenegger speaks to gay and lesbian Republicans
Posted on 06/29/2006 9:31:34 AM PDT by calcowgirl
HOLLYWOOD (CNS) - Undaunted by charges that he's turning the GOP in California into "a gay marriage party," Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger plans to speak tonight at a fund-raiser for a group of gay and lesbian Republicans.
Schwarzenegger is expected to attend the Log Cabin Republicans event to raise money for the organization's West Coast chapters.
"When he took the oath of office he said he'd be governor for all the people and that's what he's doing," said event organizer Ted Jackson.
"He's coming to talk to us in an effort to reach out and be inclusive. He's got a strong record of signing civil rights legislation and an even stronger record of reaching out."
Schwarzenegger vetoed a same-sex marriage bill last fall but has said he supports domestic partnerships, and, since taking office in 2003, has signed two dozen bills in support of rights for the gay and lesbian communities.
"I think that you know the way I voted, and the bills that I have signed, and the bills that I have vetoed, and this is exactly where my position is," Schwarzenegger said at a news conference Tuesday in Oakland. "I believe in domestic partnerships and all of that."
Randy Thomasson, the founder and president of the group Campaign for Children and Families, said that by attending the event, Schwarzenegger is "flip-flopping" on his position.
"He's not appearing, he's fund-raising $300,000 to transform the California Republican Party into a gay marriage party, and marriage is for a man and a woman," Thomasson said.
Tickets for tonight's event in Hollywood cost between $250 and $10,000. About 350 people are expected to attend the dinner and silent auction.
"I accepted this particular invitation just like I accept any other invitation, because I am reaching out to all Californians," said Schwarzenegger, who will be the featured speaker.
"Everyone is part of California, everyone that lives here and works here is part of California. I respect everyone and everyone gets treated equally. So, if I can help them with their fundraising I am very happy to do so."
State Treasurer Phil Angelides, the Democratic gubernatorial nominee, has said he would support a same-sex marriage bill. That leaves voters with little choice between the two candidates, Thomasson said.
"What are the voters to think?" Thomasson said.
"On the one hand, Angelides is vowing to sign gay marriage into law and now Schwarzenegger is helping to raise $300,000 for people who want to do the same thing. This is not something that makes the average voter -- who believes marriage is for a man and a woman -- happy."
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Turning the GOP in California into "a gay marriage party"
"Don't be a 'girly-man!'"
The girly men like his muscles - they want to feel them.
Schwarzenegger has been sleeping with a Kennedy too long.
Sleep with swine and you will eventually smell like one.
The choice is clear, actually -- Angelides supports homo marriage, Arnold doesn't (he vetoed a same-sex marriage bill last fall). Angelides is a fiscal liberal, Arnold is a fiscal conservative.
Arnold is a fiscal conservative..
(Uhhh, I couldn't help myself.)
Point is, despite what Thomasson said, there is a significant difference between these two candidates.
Oh, now that is rich! There ain't nuttin' conservative, fiscal or otherwise, about our current gubbie.
Lay down with a Kennedy dog and you'll get up with liberal fleas.
Oh , there are some differences, his track erecord in 3 years budget wise is hardly conservative tho, imo.
He's just trying to keep up with the rest of the
National party, that much I agree with. There is little to no restraint on either's part...and that is not good.
If Victory 06 comes to your county, you might want to ask the same question. It needs to be asked over and over again. Why should I volunteer for someone who is against nearly everything I care about?
Good morning, Norm. So Arnie is raising money for the Log Cabin group. As the reputed head of the GOP in California, the gov can rarely be bothered to do fundraisers for Republican candidates at any level, or to help rebuild the party in this state, but he runs to do one for the LCR's.
In my opinion, the recall was a DISASTER in every respect.
One big difference is that Arnold has the power to sway the GOP toward his liberal polices. Angelides doesn't.
Hey Gropinator! Don't you remember--this so-called group went demoncRAT in the last election. Short memory, gropinator. Is it possibly because you've surrounded yourself with all your wife's demoncrats to make you into one? Only it's called RINO.
That sounds even better.
Besides, she looks like a female version of that creature they used have on late night TV on "Tales from the Crypt".
Depends on what the definition of DISASTER IS.. ;-)
It's not just the Gub. He's just the poster boy.
It is the tentacles of the New Majority behind the scenes reaching out to build a more diverse & in your face GOP operation, and it is active in 14 states at present and growing.
The Recall was an opportunity to upset the apple cart and get rid of the bad apples, instead, well, .. Tomorrow..
Gubinor to sign megaBudget tomorrow to much acclaim from both sides of the aisle. (The state budget includes a 12% increase in spending after run-ups of close to 10% each of the last two years.)
Film at 11..
So the question then becomes -- who's more harmful, RINOs or liberal Democrats? The answer, still, is the latter.
who's more harmful, RINOs or liberal Democrats? The answer, still, is the latter.
Main Street Republicans,, The Gang of 14,, who causes more drama to be involved in many issues these days?
Both are equally as harmful or damn close to it.
This is something with which I'm not familiar. Got any info/references I can use to educate myself?
And therein lies the problem--and the dilemma. Arnold is awful and Angelides is more awful. I'm so sick of the media talking about "bipartisan" budgets and "bipartisan" bondage intitiatives, when the vast majority of Republican legislators opposed both. Now we have "bipartisan" global warming regulations, "bipartisan" land grabs, "bipartisan" GLBT "civil rights", all because the Governor (R) backs (or promotes) these things. Had the same things been promoted by Gray Davis instead of Arnold, they would have had unanimous opposition from the Republicans. Instead, we continue to lurch further and further to the left. Gridlock was a much better alternative than where we have headed with billions in deficits and borrowing.
I guess there's a little bit of Girly Man in every Terminator.
Thanks for the info, Norm. Will read it thoroughly. :)
It would seem a very tight "fist(ing)" one
I will cite this thread every time FareOpinion touts Arnold having vetoed gay marriage (a bill that would have been thrown out by the Supreme Court by virtue of Prop 22).
"who's more harmful, RINOs or liberal Democrats? The answer, still, is the latter."
If the 'Rats screw up we can blame the 'Rats and vote for the "R",
when an incompetent RINOld screws up all we can do is complain amongst ourselves, take the heat from the 'Rats and wait until 2010 to vote for a true blue conservative!
Remember the last RINO CA had for a governor...
Pete Wilson did more harm to the CA GOP and help for the CA 'Rat party than anyone in modern history!
And where is Pete Wilson today?
Just call up RINOld's office and ask for Pete Wilson.
Annual dues are $10,000 (for the New Majority group).
Sounds like a bunch of fat-cat, elitist Third Way types. Now that I know Schwarzennegger is one of these "New Majority" (really Third Way) types, I understand better why he governs the way he does.
There have been many "third way" movements around the world. The modern one is nothing more than an attempt to repackage socialism by shoring up its economic weaknesses while still adhering to a "progressive" governmental and social agenda. Third Way types are Leftists who cherry pick elements of Rightist fiscal policies. Then they try to marginalize both traditional Leftists and people on the Right by characterizing themselves as pragmatists and centrists.
Remember the Democratic Leadership Council that pushed Bill Clinton to the White House? It's a Third Way group. Remember the group founded by Warren Rudman and Paul Tsongas in the early 1990's? Same thing. Even Newt Gingrich was pushing the Third Way for awhile, because he was a friend of someone who wrote a book about the Third Way. (I don't know if he still adheres to that philosophy though.)
If you Google "Third Way," you'll find many references. There's even an official Third Way website. Here's a link.
Here's a link to the Democratic Leadership Council's website. You'll easily see the commonalities between the Third Way's site and the DLC's site.
I think this is the book Newt was pushing several years ago.
Here's a snippet of Amazon's review of this book:
The idea of finding a third way in politics has been widely discussed - not only in the UK, but in the US, Continental Europe and Latin America. But what is the third way? Supporters of the notion haven't been able to agree, and critics deny the possibility altogether. Anthony Giddens shows that developing a third way is not only a possibility but a necessity in modern politics. The third way represents the renewal of social democracy in a world where the views of the old left have become obsolete, while those of the new right are inadequate and contradictory.
Here's an excerpt from the description of Third Way on Wikipedia:
The term was appropriated by politicians in the 1990s who wished to incorporate Thatcher and Reagan's projects of economic deregulation, privatization, and globalization into the mainstream centre-left political parties (following the crisis of socialism after the fall of the Berlin Wall) so that in this context the Third Way is usually understood as a nickname for neoliberal social-economic policy. As such, it has become an important ideology in modern European democracies, especially by some Social-Democratic parties, as well as for some members of the United States Democratic Party (particularly, the Democratic Leadership Council). It gets its name from its alleged role as an alternative to both pure, free market capitalism and the kind of economic order represented by strong welfare states such as the Scandinavian countries and Germany, which are held to be too regulated and taxed at rates that are too high to compete with economies run on free-market principles.
Thanks Carry_Okie. Perhaps that's the book I was thinking of, although my admittedly all-too-human memory still thinks he also helped push a book about the Third Way at some point.
Is that your point?
Angelides calls himself a champion of "progressive values." As state treasurer, he has pushed public pension funds to dump tobacco stocks, invest in urban renewal projects and pressure corporations into cleaning up the environment. A close ally of labor, he also supports abortion rights, gay marriage, gun control and driver's licenses for illegal immigrants.
Of course this ignores Arnold VETOED the "gay marriage" law passed by the legislature.
I don't appreciate that you act as if he never tired to take on the difficult issues.
This election is a zero sum game: it's either Arnold or Angelides. Wishing for Angelides to win so a random "true blue conservative" can rise up and win in 2010 is FOOLISHNESS. If Angelides wins, he's in until 2014 unless he falls over dead or moves to the Senate or White House.
Um, no it doesn't. It's right there in black and white:
Schwarzenegger vetoed a same-sex marriage bill last fall but has said he supports domestic partnerships, and, since taking office in 2003, has signed two dozen bills in support of rights for the gay and lesbian communities
I don't appreciate that you act as if he never tired to take on the difficult issues.
I question who he deals with and why. You can accept it, others don't and speak out.
You can't even pretend that he has much support here as anything close to being a conservative after the way he has conducted himself in a "bipartisan" manner and ran the bar tab up when we needed to cut back... or is that also just another battle lost on a PR level?
We're screwed either way, I'll leave it at that.
Is that your point?
On an issue by issue basis, please differentiate Arnold from Phil Angelides.
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