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Up to 61 million Immigrants Might Flow into U.S. Under Proposed Reform
Rocky Mountain News ^ | July 1, 2006 | Robert Rector

Posted on 07/01/2006 7:15:40 AM PDT by kellynla

Think the immigration debate is mainly about giving amnesty to the 10 million illegals already here? Think again. Amnesty is a drop in the bucket. The real issue is the staggering increase in legal immigration hidden in the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, recently passed in the Senate. By a ratio of about 4-1, U.S. voters would prefer less immigration, not more. But the Senate bill would do just the opposite. The original bill would have allowed as many as 100 million people to legally immigrate to the United States over the next 20 years. We're talking about a seismic shift of unprecedented proportions.

Facing criticism, the Senate has amended the bill - which now would allow "only" 61 million new immigrants. That still more than doubles the current legal immigration rate, from 1 million a year now to 2.5 million.

Current law would let 19 million legal immigrants enter the United States over the next 20 years; the Senate immigration bill would add an extra 42 million.

Why such extraordinary growth? Consider how the new law would work.

Under the Senate bill, immigrants could enter or attain lawful status within the country through nine channels. In each channel, immigrants would gain permanent residence and the right to become citizens:

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlessness; employerswhocheat; givemecheaplabor; illegals; iloveillegals; iwantcheaplabor; knownothing; rant; sameoldsameold; teardownthatwall; thebordersucks; whine
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Take Rector's numbers and multiply them! For starters, there are probably closer to 20 million illegals in America today!
1 posted on 07/01/2006 7:15:41 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: A. Pole; HiJinx

ping


2 posted on 07/01/2006 7:16:34 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Gotta destroy the middle class. Then they'll stop keeping an eye on our leaders cuz they're too busy trying to scrape by.


3 posted on 07/01/2006 7:19:09 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: kellynla

Pay attention to the author- Robert Rector

He knows this subject backward and forward. He's very credible on TV too.


4 posted on 07/01/2006 7:19:31 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok.)
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To: Wolfie
Gotta destroy the middle class. Then they'll stop keeping an eye on our leaders cuz they're too busy trying to scrape by.

It is that simple, but so few can see it coming.

5 posted on 07/01/2006 7:21:59 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Wolfie

If their game plan succeeds you will have to be a gubbermint worker (Federal preferably) to have a middle class existence. All other wages will plummet


6 posted on 07/01/2006 7:22:16 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok.)
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To: kellynla
Ok. We start with 9, then went to 11, then went to 16, then 20, then 48, then 89 then 96 then 100 then 200 and now back to 61. Would the Perpetual Bitchier get together and get their talking points straight. This habit of making up a new number ever time you need a new excuse to whine is making the rest of us nauseas
7 posted on 07/01/2006 7:27:32 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: kellynla
On a related note, I received the wonderful news yesterday that my I-130 "Petition for Immigration of Foreign Spouse" has been approved by the USCIS. One more hurdle has been passed in my efforts to bring my wife to the United States from Ukraine.

Meanwhile, millions cross our souther border every year. Frustrating.

8 posted on 07/01/2006 7:27:51 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Why should people care about this when...when...when we need to ban flag burning, a very important issue and far more important than this!?!?!?

No? What about...um...something important like an Executive Order...on Kelo and stuff? You remember, Kelo? That really sucked, huh?

No? Well, how about that crappy NY Times? Boy, aren't they a pack of traitors! We should hate them, I'm furious about them...except we shouldn't prosecute them because that might be...um...FLAG burning, have I mentioned flag burning?


9 posted on 07/01/2006 7:27:58 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: Drew68

Congratulations on your wife's legal immigration, which I hope comes quickly!

And good luck on getting through that whole mess before the amnesty gets through [chuckle], and 10 million+ illegals here have to have their [snicker] background checks done in 90 days by Homeland Security [chortle].


10 posted on 07/01/2006 7:30:32 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: LibertarianInExile

It is nearly time...only when enough Americans have had enough of what is going on.


11 posted on 07/01/2006 7:31:34 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
Facing criticism, the Senate has amended the bill - which now would allow "only" 61 million new immigrants.
12 posted on 07/01/2006 7:36:04 AM PDT by A. Pole (GWB believes that "guest worker" program will satisfy economy needs for cheap and plentiful labour.)
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To: A. Pole

Well. Uh. Gosh. I feel soooooo much better.


13 posted on 07/01/2006 7:36:46 AM PDT by null and void (When you're thinking about beating the odds, consider the outcome of the odds beating you.)
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To: Wolfie

Bingo!


14 posted on 07/01/2006 7:37:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: MNJohnnie
"This habit of making up a new number ever time you need a new excuse to whine is making the rest of us nauseas"

"us?" you and who else? LOL If you don't like the articles I post; there isn't a gun in your back.

As I have repeatedly told you, when you are ready to pony up to the teller and pick up the TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR TAB that illegals are costing those of us who actually pay taxes in America then you can come on my thread and blather on. In the mean time, take it elsewhere.
15 posted on 07/01/2006 7:42:13 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

see this little glimmer of hope?

Federal law would cut grants to 'sanctuary cities' for illegal immigrants


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658868/posts


16 posted on 07/01/2006 7:42:57 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

"Destroy the middle class,so few see it comming."That's a fact.And few of our polititians are willing to acknowledge that.Add to that the msm's active support of illegal immigration,and most Americans(imo)are simply ignorant of the social and economic ramifications of unrestricted immigration.The proposed Senate bill(if enacted)is tantamount to national suicide.


17 posted on 07/01/2006 7:43:27 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: kellynla
Take Rector's numbers and multiply them! For starters, there are probably closer to 20 million illegals in America today!

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing!
18 posted on 07/01/2006 7:46:06 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: kellynla

It could not only destroy the middle class, but our entire Constitutionally based system. Can you imagine 60 million immigrants sharing the beliefs of this lovely couple? Hat tip, Jihadwatch.

California pair admit enslavement
Sharia Alert from...southern California. The Qur'an condones slavery, and we see from cases like this that Muslims who take that seriously can be found anywhere.

An Egyptian former couple have pleaded guilty to enslaving a 10-year-old girl in their southern California home.
The girl, who was brought to the US from Egypt, was forced to work 16-hour days and was not allowed to leave the house during her 20-month ordeal.

Abdel Nasser Eid Youssef Ibrahim, 45, and his ex-wife, Amal Ahmed Ewis-abd Motelib, 43, agreed to plead guilty to four federal charges.

They face jail terms of three years when they are sentenced in October.

The girl, whose name was not released, was brought to the US by the couple in August 2000 when she was 10.
She was forced to clean their home, take care of their five children, prepare food and do the laundry, for no pay. She lived in squalor in the garage and was told that if she left the house in Irvine, southern California, she might be arrested....


19 posted on 07/01/2006 7:46:48 AM PDT by bordergal (uis)
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To: kellynla

Have read that the total number of legal immigrants admitted to the US is around 50 million since the country was founded.


20 posted on 07/01/2006 7:49:58 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: dennisw

"Pay attention to the author- Robert Rector

He knows this subject backward and forward. He's very credible on TV too."

He may very well be. I just think the number of illegals he starts off with is probably closer to 20 million than 10.

Just one of the many sources in this piece.


"The Tucson sector Border Patrol union local 2544 on the number of illegal aliens in our nation: "There are currently 15 to 20 million illegal aliens in this country by many estimates, but the real numbers could be much higher and the numbers increase every day because our borders are not secure (no matter what the politicians tell you - don't believe them for a second)".

http://www.theamericanresistance.com/ref/illegal_alien_numbers.html


21 posted on 07/01/2006 7:51:29 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
the Senate has amended the bill - which now would allow "only" 61 million new immigrants.

The vast majority from the third world, of course. Western Civilization has been on a suicide mission for the better part of half a century, and the last nail is about to be driven in its coffin.

22 posted on 07/01/2006 7:53:30 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: kellynla

Senate Bill is nuts.
It's not going to go anywhere.


23 posted on 07/01/2006 7:55:14 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: DustyMoment
Bear Stearns estimated in January 2005 that there are between 18-20 million illegal aliens in America but of course some "illegal alien supporter" is tired of me "making up" numbers. LMAO
24 posted on 07/01/2006 7:58:26 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: MNJohnnie
"This habit of making up a new number ever time you need a new excuse to whine is making the rest of us nauseas"


"The rest of us"?
You and who?
Freepers are overwhelmimgly against the Senate Amnesty Bill.
25 posted on 07/01/2006 8:00:39 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison
You and who?

Dane and Sinkspur and TexasForever, for starters. You know, the crowd that believes no amnesty is too lenient that there is no such thing as having too many unassimilated Latinos in our country.

26 posted on 07/01/2006 8:08:59 AM PDT by WayneM ( Sneaking in is NOT immigration.......(¯`'•..•'´¯).......Cut the KRAP (Karl Rove Amnesty Plan).)
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To: WayneM; Jameison

Don't forget clawrence3, another who is trying to destroy the USA


27 posted on 07/01/2006 8:11:44 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Left created, embraces and feeds "The Culture of Hate." Make it part of the political lexicon!)
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To: Drew68
One more hurdle has been passed in my efforts to bring my wife to the United States from Ukraine.

You should have her fly to Tijuana, change her name to Maria and come across that way. Not only would you be married, you would be getting free benefits, etc.

28 posted on 07/01/2006 8:14:40 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Left created, embraces and feeds "The Culture of Hate." Make it part of the political lexicon!)
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To: WayneM

That crowd doesn't hold any beliefs other than if the President supports it, they support it. If the Prez supported the (no amnesty) House bill they'd support it too. Much easier for them that way -- no thought about any issue required.


29 posted on 07/01/2006 8:15:01 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: WayneM
"Dane and Sinkspur and TexasForever, for starters. You know, the crowd that believes no amnesty is too lenient that there is no such thing as having too many unassimilated Latinos in our country"

I seem to remember those costumers faintly.
I also seem to remember them for rabid, personal attacks against Ann Coulter too. I call them The La Raza/MEChA Appreciation Society. :)
30 posted on 07/01/2006 8:16:07 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison

Ah I see. Just ignore all fact, history and reality. What we FEEL is now all that matters. How utterly Leftist the Antis are in their behavior.


31 posted on 07/01/2006 8:16:26 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: WayneM

"TexasForever" is better off changing his name to MexicoForever.


32 posted on 07/01/2006 8:18:18 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: kellynla

*BUMP*!


33 posted on 07/01/2006 8:19:52 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: MNJohnnie

You seem to be such an authority. You tell us the numbers.


34 posted on 07/01/2006 8:21:44 AM PDT by tertiary01
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To: MNJohnnie
Ok. We start with 9, then went to 11, then went to 16, then 20, then 48, then 89 then 96 then 100 then 200 and now back to 61

I guess they realized that the 200 million number was a bit over the top since the population of Mexico is only 107 million. I would hate to be a mindless boob that always had to start barking at the moon when manipulators threw out "processed" red-meat.

35 posted on 07/01/2006 8:33:54 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: MNJohnnie
"Ah I see. Just ignore all fact, history and reality"

Oh I am thinking history alright.
I am thinking of the Alamo.
Reallity?
You mean all the crimes carried out in this country by illegals, yes?
36 posted on 07/01/2006 8:36:33 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: kellynla

"Up to 61 million Immigrants Might Flow into U.S. Under Proposed Reform"

LOL!!! Does anybody realize that is about 60% of Mexico's entire population? I'm as anti-illegail0immigrant as the next guy but to believe that essentially 2/3 of Mexico is going to pack up and sneak accross the border is just, well, silly.


37 posted on 07/01/2006 8:36:56 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: kellynla
We do not need all these people, legal or illegal. Aren't our traffic jams bad enough? Not to mention all those entitlements that newcomers feel they are entitled to.
38 posted on 07/01/2006 8:37:18 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: tertiary01
That 9 to 11 million figure cited by the pro-amnesty contingent is far from the only stat being invented. Tony Snow told a couple of absolute whoppers on The Factor the other night:

1) "The crime rate among the illegal alien population is lower than that of the American population at large."

2) "Illegal border crossing have been going down every year since 2000."

I guess they figure that if they repeat these lies often enough the electorate will start to believe them.

39 posted on 07/01/2006 8:37:50 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

"It is that simple, but so few can see it coming."

The RINO's, K00laid drinkers and the B-bots seem perfectly ok with 61 million Dum-o-crats as neighbors.


40 posted on 07/01/2006 8:38:05 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: tertiary01; MNJohnnie
To: MNJohnnie You seem to be such an authority. You tell us the numbers.

MNJohnnie would gladly tell you these numbers on Tuesday if you agree with his point today.

41 posted on 07/01/2006 8:38:47 AM PDT by A. Pole (GWB believes that "guest worker" program will satisfy economy needs for cheap and plentiful labour.)
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To: AmericaUnited
"I guess they realized that the 200 million number "

"They"?
Who are these "they" who claimed here on FR that we are going to get 200 million illegals from Mexico again?
I don't recall it.
But hey, LaRaza is all seeing, so maybe you'll help me out in that regard?
42 posted on 07/01/2006 8:39:26 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: L98Fiero

Why are you assuming they'd all come from Mexico? Central/South America are quite populous, and are Africa, Pakistan, India, etc. This open invitation is to the entire third world, not just Mexico.


43 posted on 07/01/2006 8:41:00 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
" 1) "The crime rate among the illegal alien population is lower than that of the American population at large."

2) "Illegal border crossing have been going down every year since 2000."

TS is now a bought and paid for sock puppet. On one hand you have our government stating they don't know how many illegals are in country...then they blast out this liquid fecal matter with their latest talking head.
44 posted on 07/01/2006 8:42:00 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: L98Fiero

the Senate bill would "allow" 61 million over the NEXT 20 YEARS...
and there are illegals from all over the world in America, not just ol' Mexico...


45 posted on 07/01/2006 8:46:43 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Tony's an idiot.


46 posted on 07/01/2006 8:47:53 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: AmericaUnited
>>>Ok. We start with 9, then went to 11, then went to 16, then 20, then 48, then 89 then 96 then 100 then 200 and now back to 61

>I guess they realized that the 200 million number was a bit over the top since the population of Mexico is only 107 million. I would hate to be a mindless boob that always had to start barking at the moon when manipulators threw out "processed" red-meat.

What bunch of idiotic statements! Hello, Rector is obviously talking about immigrants from all over the world!! From Ghana to Bangladesh, from Burma to Egypt, from Peru to Turkey. Pull your heads out of your a**es. Mexico is obviously not the only country in the world from which we take immigrants.

47 posted on 07/01/2006 8:55:42 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Jameison
But hey, LaRaza is all seeing, so maybe you'll help me out in that regard?

Certainly. I'm dispatching a green+white helicopter to hover over your house right now.

48 posted on 07/01/2006 9:01:16 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: L98Fiero
Does anybody realize that is about 60% of Mexico's entire population?

You forget about entire Latin America. And whoever else wishes to walk through southern border.

49 posted on 07/01/2006 9:01:44 AM PDT by A. Pole (GWB believes that "guest worker" program will satisfy economy needs for cheap and plentiful labour.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It is that simple, but so few can see it coming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well, we ain't so smart down at the sawmill but ain't it dang nigh a' accomplished fact a'ready?


50 posted on 07/01/2006 9:14:30 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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