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Kerry faces hard road in presidential bid
FortWayne.com ^ | 7/1/06 | MIKE GLOVER

Posted on 07/01/2006 10:01:49 AM PDT by LdSentinal

DES MOINES, Iowa - Seeking the presidency is harder the second time around.

As the race for 2008 builds, Democratic Sen. John Kerry has left little doubt about his intentions to try again after his narrow loss to President Bush in 2004. He isn't the only also-ran considering another marathon.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., has the look of a White House hopeful. Three Democrats - 2004 vice presidential nominee John Edwards, retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark and Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware - sound a lot like presidential candidates; Al Gore, the Democrats' nominee in 2000, says he has all but ruled out running for president in 2008.

Kerry faces a challenge of major proportions, convincing Democratic activists that a candidate who just lost an election can still carry his party's White House hopes.

"I think the Democratic Party, unlike the Republican Party, has had a historic reluctance to give people a second chance," said Democratic activist Jerry Crawford, a Des Moines lawyer who was chairman of Kerry's 2004 campaign in Iowa.

It's rare when Democrats give the nomination to a candidate who just failed.

Adlai Stevenson got a second chance against President Eisenhower in 1956, but many suspect that Democrats were pessimistic about the odds of unseating a popular president. Their doubts were realized when Stevenson lost again.

Republicans, on the other hand, are more willing to give their nominees another try. Richard M. Nixon lost the presidency in 1960 and won the White House in 1968. Bob Dole sought his party's nomination in 1980 and 1988. He secured the GOP nod in 1996 but lost the general election to President Clinton.

Dole said the climb gets steeper on the next try.

"I think the advantage is the first time you are fresh and new to a lot of people and they haven't formed a judgment about you," the former Kansas senator said. "The second time around, some people might say he's had his chance, we need a new face."

Kerry's allies acknowledge the struggle but are unwilling to give up the cause.

"Historically, the Democratic Party has tended to shoot its wounded," said former New Hampshire Democratic Chairman Joe Keefe. "John Kerry has done everything within his power to rewrite that chapter."

The Massachusetts senator has raised nearly $9 million for candidates and the party and has campaigned actively across the country.

In statements the party's liberal base has welcomed, Kerry has said he was wrong to vote for the Iraq war resolution in 2002 and has called for an end to the conflict.

The Vietnam War veteran also has come out in favor of a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq. But he got precious little support, even among fellow Democrats, in recent Senate debate.

The amendment failed 86-13 and Kerry's push for the measure frustrated some in the party leadership.

Kerry has made three trips to Iowa. The state's caucuses launch the nominating season and Kerry's surprising victory in January 2004 propelled him to the nomination.

Attitudes have changed among state Democrats, with a recent Des Moines Register poll putting Kerry a distant third behind 2004 running mate Edwards, the former North Carolina senator, and New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Democratic consultant and Kerry ally Jenny Backus said Kerry must overcome "the Democratic curse" of dismissing losing candidates, no matter how well they perform.

"He has grown from the devastation of the last election," said former Sen. Max Cleland of Georgia. "A lot of people who are reacting to Kerry are reacting to the Kerry of '04."

Kerry, who raised $233 million as a presidential candidate, had about $15 million left after the November 2004 election. That was a sore point with many Democrats who questioned why he did not spend it all to unseat Bush.

Kerry gave about $3 million of that money to various Democratic committees and spent about $2 million to buy the e-mail donor list from his campaign. After covering various campaign debts, he had millions left and has been adding to his accounts since then.

As Kerry moves to involve himself in the next campaign, some point to the flaws in his last run as evidence he shouldn't be the standard bearer again.

"I think he has to make an argument that he could do better than he did in 2004," said Democratic strategist Jeff Link, who is consulting with the political action committee of Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, a potential Kerry rival.

"We had an unpopular president who had launched an unpopular war and Democrats were as motivated as I've ever seen them, but he couldn't close the sale. I think that's going to give a lot of Democrats pause," Link said.

John Norris, who managed Kerry's campaign in Iowa and ran his field operations in the general election, said candidates learn valuable lessons in a national campaign that could be put to use in a second bid. Sadly, he said, voters do not see it that way.

"That sentiment you talked about is really strong out there," Norris said. "You know, 'He's had his chance.' I think that's shortsighted."

Link said there is an inherent reluctance to give a candidate a second chance, regardless of how well they performed. He worked for Gore during the disputed 2000 election.

"I was a very strong supporter of Al Gore and when he sort of put his toes in the water in 2004 he didn't find the support I think he had hoped for," Link said. "And he had arguably won the 2000 election."

Veteran Democratic strategist Ron Parker said it isn't a very complicated set of dynamics.

"For most folks, Kerry's selling point was less about ideology, about experience, it was the fact that he was the most electable candidate," Parker said. "It turns out that wasn't true and that opens the door for somebody new in 2008."

Crawford, a close ally of Bill Clinton, said electability is critical to the Democrats.

"We, as a party, are going to get to January of 2008 and take a look at the national landscape. And if it looks like Hillary Clinton can win a general election, the great possibility is she will be our nominee," Crawford said. "If we get to January of 2008 and it looks like she can't win a general election, then it's open season and we'll go from there."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; edwards; electionpresident; gore; hillary; jeanfrancois; kerry; kerry2008; presidency; primaries; swiftboat
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1 posted on 07/01/2006 10:01:53 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

....."...now I know I put these pickled raisins somewhere..."

kerry is a joke, I think there are alot of people out there that are just waiting to see what the RATS do, and see who the pubbies put up, and then you'll see who will win, and don't take bets on kerry or kkklinton....you'll lose your arse....


2 posted on 07/01/2006 10:07:12 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: LdSentinal

Gosh, I hope Kerry does run again. It's a lot of fun kicking the crap out of an SOB who deserves every punch he gets.


3 posted on 07/01/2006 10:08:40 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: HarleyLady27

A Monkey will jump out of my ASS if Kerry wins!


4 posted on 07/01/2006 10:09:06 AM PDT by mmyers
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To: LdSentinal
The Massachusetts senator has raised nearly $9 million for candidates and the party and has campaigned actively across the country.

While the beast has raised over $20 million from the evil enclaves infesting the country.

5 posted on 07/01/2006 10:09:36 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: LdSentinal

Time to raise a toast to the usual suspects.

6 posted on 07/01/2006 10:10:58 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Liberalism's main product is Death.)
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To: LdSentinal

He really is clueless. I watched him on O'Reilly Thursday- hadn't changed a bit, lapsing into his authoritarian demeanor a few times, and using more than, "Well I DID do such and such," (lines very reminiscent of his "I voted for it before I voted against it").


7 posted on 07/01/2006 10:12:20 AM PDT by Spyder
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To: LdSentinal

Crawford, a close ally of Bill Clinton, said electability is critical to the Democrats.
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The socialists have only one candidate that has a even a small chance of winning in 2008, and they have already thrown him in the trash can because he is not a flaming Marxist, power-mad fool...and he could have beat Bush in 2000 if they had run him.

The libs do not have a presentable, respectable candidate ANYWHERE. Nature tends to be self-correcting...so it is with the liberal socialists. A strong, fighting, conservative Repub candidate will own 2008. Easily.


8 posted on 07/01/2006 10:13:26 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: LdSentinal

Dole said the climb gets steeper on the next try.

I'll say. He ran out of breath halfway through the last time.


9 posted on 07/01/2006 10:21:36 AM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: mmyers

Before you make statements like that you should see the movie Bruce Almighty with Jim Carry.


10 posted on 07/01/2006 10:24:50 AM PDT by fish hawk
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To: LdSentinal
No one really likes him. Leaving aside his politics, Kerry comes across having the personality of a dead horse. And the way he drones on and on just puts people to sleep. Still considering all his flaws, he nearly came close to unseating Bush. That says something about the progress of the French Disease in America.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

11 posted on 07/01/2006 10:29:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: LdSentinal
Historically, the Democratic Party has tended to shoot its wounded

Really? Then why don't they die, or just go away? They actually move up in stature within the Party.

Kerry has said he was wrong to vote for the Iraq war resolution in 2002 and has called for an end to the conflict.

Good weekend to discuss Flip-flops

The Vietnam War veteran

I never knew that

We had an unpopular president who had launched an unpopular war and Democrats were as motivated as I've ever seen them,

Good thing the voters didn't agree with this assessment

"And he had arguably won the 2000 election."

Nothing like a ride through Fantasyland


12 posted on 07/01/2006 10:31:57 AM PDT by digger48
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To: DJ Taylor
Gosh, I hope Kerry does run again. It's a lot of fun kicking the crap out of an SOB who deserves every punch he gets.

Can't wait to see Ther-aye-sah again.

13 posted on 07/01/2006 11:03:18 AM PDT by shiva
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To: goldstategop

Still considering all his flaws, he nearly came close to unseating Bush.

With the lamestream media corporately piling on Bush and daily beating the antiwar drum, anybody the dems put up would have nearly unseated GWB. Kerry had little to do with it.


15 posted on 07/01/2006 11:11:46 AM PDT by rj45mis
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To: LdSentinal

Ask me, do I care how hard things are for poor John Forbes Kerry? I do not, but if he chooses to p*ss away his time and political contributions on another run for the Presidency, well, every hour he spends on the campaign trail is one hour less he is anywhere near the floor of the Senate. And every dollar he soaks up is one dollar less available to an EFFECTIVE candidate to get out a message touting the advantages of electing a Dem'crat to the Oval Office.

Hint: Since there are no EFFECTIVE Dem'crat candidates on the horizon, it doesn't make a blessed bit of difference.


16 posted on 07/01/2006 11:12:37 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: mmyers

I was going to send you a pic of polski as the monkey, but can't find it....lolol....but anyway, I have to see this happen....call me...lolol


17 posted on 07/01/2006 11:13:38 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: goldstategop

Right. And the $15 Million Kerry kept in reserve, if unleashed in, say, Ohio, may well have put his butt on the throne. Arghh


18 posted on 07/01/2006 11:20:49 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: LdSentinal

Dear Lord! There's not any difference between RINO McCain and demoncrazy sKerry. Trash these two and hopefully the pubs will come up with something better.


19 posted on 07/01/2006 11:28:43 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: LdSentinal


Bring it on!

20 posted on 07/01/2006 11:37:35 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Baynative
I suppose Kerry wants to see form 180s on Admiral Hoffman, John O'Neill, Col. Bud Day and others......to compare his 4 month service with their extensive service and accomplishments.

Like to see that comparison myself....published of course.
22 posted on 07/01/2006 11:52:27 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: LdSentinal

The Vietnam War veteran also has come out in favor of a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq. But he got precious little support, even among fellow Democrats, in recent Senate debate.

How this whackjob can run again while putting out contradictory bills that get virtually no support from his fellow libs is a mystery. I wonder if he will sign the form 180 this time? I am still waiting....


23 posted on 07/01/2006 12:11:31 PM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: digger48
Kerry's only shot against Hillary is to ok the release of the Barrett Report. Of course he has to weigh that against the very real possibility that Hillary has copies of his actual discharge papers...
24 posted on 07/01/2006 12:25:49 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (There are only a few absolute truths in life, everything else is just an opinion.)
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To: Baynative

To Senator Flip-Flop, every form and every statement is a 180.


25 posted on 07/01/2006 12:57:51 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Creating the <a href="http://clinton.senate.gov">straddle</a> Google bomb one post at a time.)
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To: LdSentinal
It's rare when Democrats give the nomination to a candidate who just failed.

Heh heh heh...too bad...I wish he would be nominated again...the first time was so much fun.

FMCDH(BITS)

26 posted on 07/01/2006 1:18:13 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: freedomfiter2
Dole said the climb gets steeper on the next try.

I'll say. He ran out of breath halfway through the last time.

Was that before the Viagra or after?

FMCDH(BITS)

27 posted on 07/01/2006 1:22:21 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: LdSentinal
Kerry faces a challenge of major proportions

Truer words were never printed. Major proportions... and her name is The Hildabeaste!

28 posted on 07/01/2006 1:29:48 PM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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To: LdSentinal

This time Lurch forget about taking a Swift boat ride into Boston harbor. Break out the wetsuit and windsurf your tall lank into the harbor instead with a Sam Adams in your hand.


29 posted on 07/01/2006 1:39:38 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: LdSentinal

That picture always makes me smile!!


30 posted on 07/01/2006 1:40:08 PM PDT by bfree (Liberalism-the yellow meat)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
"Kerry's only shot against Hillary is to ok the release of the Barrett Report"

Thanks for reminding us. That did drop off the screen rather quickly.
31 posted on 07/01/2006 1:47:18 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Mrs Zip

pinh


32 posted on 07/02/2006 12:45:50 AM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: LdSentinal; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; ...
BWAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA ping - this is an AP story....


33 posted on 07/03/2006 8:31:54 AM PDT by bitt (NY Times to New York: Drop Dead!)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 07/03/2006 8:33:48 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: LdSentinal

Behind the scenes, Hillary will leak info to her favorite sources and destroy Kerry. That is how she plays the game. Unlike the women and others in 1992, at least Kerry doesn't have to worry about Pellicano.


35 posted on 07/03/2006 8:34:55 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: bitt

One can only surmise that his manservant will make sure he doesn't hurt is widdle toes on that hard road.


36 posted on 07/03/2006 8:36:36 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: LdSentinal

Kerry the Fop bump. Thanks again for the tagline - still going strong... :P


37 posted on 07/03/2006 8:41:55 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: LdSentinal
after his narrow loss to President Bush

Yep, that's how I remember it, a real squeaker. < /s>

38 posted on 07/03/2006 8:44:11 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: goldstategop
Still considering all his flaws, he nearly came close to unseating Bush. That says something about the progress of the French Disease in America.

I think it speaks volumes about the poor performance of the Bush team in the last election. The guy was practically "phoning it in," didn't seem all that interested in winning or not.

Don't get me wrong; although I'm not a Bush-bot or even a big fan of Bush, I did stand in a long line to vote for him as I couldn't stand the idea of President Kerry. Yuck, that was hard to type.

39 posted on 07/03/2006 8:51:16 AM PDT by whd23
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To: Enterprise

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/flipside/flipside.php?story=dispatch/2006/07/03/20060703-B8-02.html

BOROWITZ REPORT
Monday, July 03, 2006


Humorist Andy Borowitz is a regular commentator on CNN and National Public Radio. Here is his latest twisted take on the news of the day:

BUSH OPPOSES MARRIAGE BETWEEN A MAN AND A FLAG Constitutional Amendment Could Become Hot-Button Issue for November.



In what many political observers think could become an effective wedge issue in the 2006 midterm elections, President George W. Bush today proposed a constitutional amendment banning marriage between a man and a flag.

In a nationally televised address from the Oval Office, the president said the proposed amendment is intended to protect two embattled American institutions: traditional marriage and the American flag.

"We must define marriage as a union between a man and a woman, and not between a man and a flag," Bush said. "Additionally, just as we seek to protect flags from being burned, we must protect them from being married."

The president’s proposal seemed intended to cause trouble among congressional Democrats, many of whom have no stated opinion on the issue of man-flag unions.

But 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry was quick out of the box in response to the president’s speech, telling reporters, "Before the end of the day, I intend to have at least three or four different positions on this issue."

On the other side of the aisle, Bush’s proposed amendment received immediate support from Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., who suggested expanding its scope to ban marriage between a man and any inanimate object.

"We should not only forbid marriage between a man and a flag; we should also forbid it between a man and an inflatable love doll," he said, adding quickly, "Not that I know about that sort of thing."

Elsewhere, scientists released a list of the top 10 causes of obesity, including being suddenly fired from The View.


40 posted on 07/03/2006 8:52:13 AM PDT by bitt (NY Times to New York: Drop Dead!)
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To: bitt; potlatch
He's running again............


41 posted on 07/03/2006 8:53:30 AM PDT by bitt (NY Times to New York: Drop Dead!)
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To: LdSentinal

Hard road,he faces a no road. With the choice the demos have look for another tear eyed the reps stole the election again! I stand firm with the swift boats guys ,long may they continue to fight the guy who got away with open treason. Any body who signs a treaty with a country the US is at war with and then condems the troops time and time again is unfit for command. Come on out and play John, I for one am ready!


42 posted on 07/03/2006 8:59:17 AM PDT by betsyross1776
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To: LdSentinal
"Historically, the Democratic Party has tended to shoot its wounded,"

They did a real Sonny Corleone on Dukakis.

43 posted on 07/03/2006 8:59:23 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: rj45mis; goldstategop
Still considering all his flaws, he nearly came close to unseating Bush.

Now that the closeness .. not to mention claimed victories ... of Gore and Kerry have become the stuff of urban legend, I guess it's too late to bring up the massive vote frauds that gave both of them the undeserved electoral votes of major states?

How do we get this vote fraud outrage talked about in this country?

44 posted on 07/03/2006 9:06:40 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Vote Fraud: The Democrats' Secret Weapon .... Well, secret to the RNC, anyway.)
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To: bitt; LdSentinal; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo
I know I am turning into a one-trick pony over the vote fraud issue, but not only is it costing us elections all over the country, it cost GW the mandate he legitimately should have had as president.

To date, I have never heard one major Republican Leader ... or minor for that matter ... mention the issue. WTF gives?

So, ping.

45 posted on 07/03/2006 9:12:09 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Vote Fraud: The Democrats' Secret Weapon .... Well, secret to the RNC, anyway.)
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To: LdSentinal

Bring it on, Kerry! Bring in on!

Kerry is a joke himself. But what's he gonna do about that creepy wife of his?


46 posted on 07/03/2006 9:15:50 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: HarleyLady27
kerry is a joke,

You don't know how right you are. I was flabbergasted when he won the Democratic nomination, not least of all because he has been an almost complete non entity in Massachusetts for the last 20 years. In Massachusetts, an incumbent Democrat more or less wins by default. Kerry lacks anything that could be mistaken for charm or appeal, he's not used to real competition. He unconvincingly mouths ridiculous platitudes, almost with a wink and a nod, telling you even he could never believe the hooey he's spouting.

It would be tragic if there was any substance to him, but he's a hollow poseur, so for I suppose he's found his niche. He's like Clinton in this. If Clinton had been governor of Arkansas twenty years earlier, who doubts that he, not Orville Faubus would have been standing in the school house door. If Vietnam had been popular in 1974, Kerry would have run as decorated veteran, since it was unpopular he "threw his medals over the fence", so to speak.

47 posted on 07/03/2006 9:19:35 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: Baynative; Roscoe Karns

paging Roscoe Karns...your next thread script is ready. ;^)


48 posted on 07/03/2006 9:39:33 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Kenny Bunk

"I guess it's too late to bring up the massive vote frauds that gave both of them the undeserved electoral votes of major states?"

Don't get me started! I was so pissed at how Milwaukee, Kenosha & Madison screwed the heck out of the pubbies in 2000 & 04. I wrote the election commissioner about it and he is in denial about the scope of the fraud. All major dem cities pulled the same crap. That is one more good reason not to abandon the electoral college.


49 posted on 07/03/2006 9:42:55 AM PDT by rj45mis
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To: doug from upland
Doug, Terry Lenzner is still out there. Supposedly working for the senate candidate in NY who is running as a republican.

The woman candidate is simply doing dirty work for hilary against Spencer.

Lenzner is willing to do anything at all, IMO.

50 posted on 07/03/2006 9:43:56 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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