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Woman Faces Charges After Road Rage (Year-to-date Americans lost - 22,386)
R News ^ | 7/01/06

Posted on 07/01/2006 7:09:37 PM PDT by Libloather

Woman Faces Charges After Road Rage
by The Associated Press
Published Jul 01, 2006

Police charged an Orleans County woman after a road rage crash killed a passenger in her car.

Karen Greene, 20, of Medina, was charged with criminally negligent homicide and reckless driving for allegedly causing the death of Robert Crump, 19.

The crash happened in February on Mount Read Blvd. in Greece.

Authorities said before the crash happened, Greene pulled in front of a pickup truck that had stopped in front her and then slammed on her brakes.

The truck's driver said he tried to avoid the car, but the car pulled alongside him then hit a utility pole.

Greene pleaded not guilty and was released to a probation program. She returns to court July 7.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 22; 386; americans; charges; crash; death; faces; lost; rage; road; woman
Y'all be careful out there...
1 posted on 07/01/2006 7:09:42 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

"and was released to a probation program..."


Seems like two or three years in jail would be more appropriate.


2 posted on 07/01/2006 7:13:12 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Libloather

****Authorities said before the crash happened, Greene pulled in front of a pickup truck that had stopped in front her and then slammed on her brakes. ****

One would have to assume that the pickup had stopped in front of her , moved on and then she passed it and then slammed on her brakes.

Whoever wrote this story did a poor job of it and didnt place enough information in it for anyone to really know what happened.


3 posted on 07/01/2006 7:24:31 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Libloather

About 5 years ago on I-474 near me, a woman was trying to pass a slow moving car in the passing lane when the car she was trying to pass finally moved over the woman in the car that was passing leaned toward her passenger side and was yelling out the window at the other driver, when she lost control and hit the left shoulder her car rolled into the opposite lanes where she met a semi head on. She was beheaded. Plenty of witnesses saw the whole thing

Don't lose your head over some idiot driver.


4 posted on 07/01/2006 7:25:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Libloather

I saw a fellow like this about two hundred yards ahead today.

His dispute was with another driver, not me.

I slowed down and was prepared to apply the brakes if a pileup occurred.


5 posted on 07/01/2006 7:33:12 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Graybeard58

You really have to watch for this around here. You can be going the speed limit on one lane highways and someone will pull up behind and flash their lights. If you don't take the shoulder they part the sea as they go around and cut really fast and I've had a few hit their brakes before they go on.


6 posted on 07/01/2006 7:35:16 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Libloather

Don't tail-gate.


7 posted on 07/01/2006 7:38:27 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Libloather
"The crash happened in February on Mount Read Blvd. in Greece."

That's pretty far from here. ;-)
8 posted on 07/01/2006 7:39:53 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists." --pre-Roadmap President Bush)
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To: familyop

Aren't the Greece Police too busy attacking McDonald's to have time to deal with idiotic drivers?


9 posted on 07/01/2006 7:53:47 PM PDT by 308MBR ( Somebody sold the GOP to the socialists, and the GOP wasn't theirs to sell.)
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To: 308MBR
Aren't the Greece Police too busy attacking McDonald's to have time to deal with idiotic drivers?

huh?

are you from the area ?

10 posted on 07/01/2006 7:58:30 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (nnnnnneeeeet)
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To: Revelation 911

Get it.... Greece (Grease) Police?

Not from the area, at all. Hasn't snowed here in over 15 years.


11 posted on 07/01/2006 8:07:10 PM PDT by 308MBR ( Somebody sold the GOP to the socialists, and the GOP wasn't theirs to sell.)
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To: Libloather

"Authorities said before the crash happened, Greene pulled in front of a pickup truck that had stopped in front her and then slammed on her brakes."



This is atrocious writing by the author, who should be fired for this negligence and incompetence. Either a noob or a lib.


12 posted on 07/01/2006 8:15:04 PM PDT by HighWheeler ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato)
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To: Libloather

Am I the only one wondering what state this story is from?


13 posted on 07/01/2006 8:15:24 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Graybeard58
There were two idiots in your scenario.

The idiot who was blocking the passing lane was at the very least partially responsible for this one. (Not in a legal sense, perhaps, but at least morally)

Ah, but you say the women who went ballistic was at fault and she paid? Well what if the oncoming truck had instead been a car full of kids?

This is why I am so outspoken about people staying the heck out of the passing lane if they are not passing. And folks, if you are passing out there in the left lane and someone comes up on your tail, get out of the way! You never know what is going on in the mind of that driver. (As evidenced by the scenario in Graybeard's post)
14 posted on 07/01/2006 8:17:11 PM PDT by Nik Naym
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To: rogue yam

New York. Greece is a suburb of Rochester.


15 posted on 07/01/2006 8:18:41 PM PDT by Nik Naym
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To: Libloather

Will the carnage never end? How much longer must all people suffer at the hands of the deranged because some antiquated law lets them have driver's licenses and they can freely buy massive, powerful automobiles anytime and anywhere? This is an outrage! We need to ban cars immediately and force all of America to ride light rail or ride bicycles. We would all be so much better off and healthier, too.</sarc>


16 posted on 07/01/2006 8:21:58 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Wisdom of the Leftist Tao, No.379: Women are men, men are children and children are adults.)
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To: 308MBR

Greece (Grease) Police?

groan

about your day job.....

keep it


17 posted on 07/01/2006 8:29:57 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (nnnnnneeeeet)
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To: rogue yam

Am I the only one wondering what state this story is from?


western ny - about 5 mi from my home in rochester


18 posted on 07/01/2006 8:31:15 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (nnnnnneeeeet)
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To: rogue yam
>>>>Am I the only one wondering what state this story is from?<<<<

Greece,NY info

19 posted on 07/01/2006 8:34:59 PM PDT by all_mighty_dollar
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To: Nik Naym

You need to let us all know when you're gonna be out on the road.

You sound like road rage fixin' to happen.


20 posted on 07/01/2006 8:44:30 PM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: Graybeard58

That karma thing will come back and bite you in the ass big time.


21 posted on 07/01/2006 9:07:34 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Twenty years in the Navy. Never drunk on duty - never sober on liberty)
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To: sgtbono2002

Whoever wrote this story did a poor job of it and didnt place enough information in it for anyone to really know what happened.

The pickup stopped in front of her and then she passed him slamming on her brakes. The pickup started to move at that exact moment and both cars must have swerved at the same time causing the pickup truck to hit the car.

The passenger probably died from hitting his head on the dash during her sudden slammed stop. The air bags probably didn't work.

Let's see now, another way it could have happened is...


22 posted on 07/01/2006 9:26:21 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Libloather

Greene pulled in front of a pickup truck that had stopped in front her and then slammed on her brakes. The truck's driver said he tried to avoid the car, but the car pulled alongside him then hit a utility pole.

Let's see now. She pulled in front of the stopped truck. The driver of the stopped truck must have departed from his truck and run up past her and then slowed down so that her car was along side of him. Although she had slammed on the brakes her car must have still been moving forward at a high rate of speed along side him. She then swerved into a utility pole attempting to avoid the jogger who had left his pickup truck and was running along side of her moving car. Both the jogger and the driver of the car were doing 50mph or more making the crash into the utility pole fatal to the passenger of the car.

Another possibility is that the utility pole was in the lane of traffic. The pickup swerved to avoid her and the pole but she kept going driving into it.

Another possibility is that after she slammed on the brakes she departed her car, left it in gear and it kept moving forward but was being passed by the truck who swerved to avoid the slower moving car. The car ran off the road hitting the pole. She, the driver of the car, was not actually in the crashed car when it hit the pole.

Hmmmmmmm, another possibility is...


23 posted on 07/01/2006 9:43:24 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: altura
You need to let us all know when you're gonna be out on the road.

You sound like road rage fixin' to happen.


Why do you say that?
Sounds like good old common sense and courtesy to me. Jack
24 posted on 07/01/2006 9:59:27 PM PDT by btcusn (Giving up the right to arms is a mistake a free people get to make only once.)
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To: LdSentinal

"Don't tail-gate."

Don't LET anyone tail gate. Let them pass.


25 posted on 07/01/2006 10:38:17 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: HighWheeler

Noob or lib? Nah...obviously a recent product of the publik edumacation system.


26 posted on 07/01/2006 10:48:39 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Libloather

Only twenty years old and already impatient enough to experience road rage? Good grief!


27 posted on 07/02/2006 3:42:47 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Joan Kerrey

I guess there are a lot of ways it could have happened.

Fact is air bags dont work unless you are hit in front. No amount of braking will cause them to explode.

If the person in the car had a seat belt on they wouldnt have hit the dash.

The story is very poorly written.


28 posted on 07/02/2006 3:53:43 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Mila
Only twenty years old and already impatient enough to experience road rage? Good grief!

I think a TV and video-game mentality has contributed to road rage and auto accidents in general.

People pat themselves on the back for tricky (i.e., dangerous) maneuvers, We have drivers on Long Island, who make U-turns across double-yellow lines and three lanes of traffic.

People can't endure stopping more than a minute and a half at an intersection. You can imagine that they are telling themselves, "Well, I've waited long enough, it's my turn to go, even if I am turning from a sidestreet onto a busy 4-lane roadway." It's as if TV's commercial breaks have trained drivers to put up with a limited period of waiting, before they want "the show" to resume.

There's one major problem for the TV-video game drivers. Real life doesn't grant extra lives.

29 posted on 07/02/2006 5:18:39 AM PDT by syriacus (Are "anti-tribunal" justices exhibiting "Chiefness" envy of John Roberts?)
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To: Joan Kerrey

Maybe the utility pole was a handyman named Jablonski...


30 posted on 07/02/2006 5:22:54 AM PDT by Oberon (As a matter of fact I DO want fries with that.)
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To: taxed2death

Both good advice.


31 posted on 07/02/2006 5:23:34 AM PDT by Oberon (As a matter of fact I DO want fries with that.)
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To: Libloather

This entire article should be taken out and shot.


32 posted on 07/02/2006 5:27:38 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Libloather
I keep NRA stickers in very visible locations and a large caliber handgun with mixed rounds in reach. Anyone who actively threatens my family will be met with fierce resistance. That being said I always yield and never tailgate. I signal even if there's no other car in sight, it's a mandatory consideration to me. I'm privileged to drive the car that I have and have a responsibility to care for my neighbors on the road.

That doesn't stop the occasional maniac from doing something stupid, but I can state with a smile their aggressive actions are savagely curtailed when they realize they have other things they rather do than annoy me.

33 posted on 07/02/2006 5:54:36 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: altura

Intelligent, courteous driving is road rage to you? Please let me know when you are on the road pretending to know how to drive!


34 posted on 07/02/2006 6:01:18 AM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: Revelation 911

I plan on keeping my day job. I own my own little shop of horrors, and can crack all the puns I want while punishing a minimum of the population. Sometimes, it does creep over to FR.


35 posted on 07/02/2006 6:47:31 AM PDT by 308MBR ( Somebody sold the GOP to the socialists, and the GOP wasn't theirs to sell.)
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To: altura
On what do you base your statement?

Explain, apologize, or KMA.
36 posted on 07/02/2006 7:14:05 AM PDT by Nik Naym
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