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Lawmakers upset by Christian film's PG rating
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | July 2, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/02/2006 1:23:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58

WASHINGTON -- A Christian-themed movie about a football coach's faith in God is finding an audience in Congress -- not so much for its inspirational message, but for the PG rating it received.

House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo., and other lawmakers are demanding explanations after hearing complaints that the movie "Facing the Giants" was rated PG instead of G due to religious content.

The Motion Picture Association of America claims the controversy arose from a miscommunication with the filmmakers. It says religion was not the reason for the rating.

"This incident raises the disquieting possibility that the MPAA considers exposure to Christian themes more dangerous for children than exposure to gratuitous sex and violence," Blunt said in a letter to MPAA Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Dan Glickman.

After meeting with MPAA officials, Blunt and a handful of other House members said they remain concerned about the subjective native of the ratings process.

"I'm not satisfied," said Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., who attended the meeting with Blunt. "We probably will want to revisit this ratings process to have some commonality in the standards that exist for movies."

Blackburn said she wants the House Energy and Commerce Committee to hold hearings on the issue later this year.

Blunt also brought up a recent study by the Harvard School of Public Health that found that the MPAA standards on sex and violence in movies have been getting weaker.

"Mr. Blunt does continue to have questions about the process by which `Facing the Giants' was rated and what that says about ratings creep in general," spokeswoman Burson Taylor said Friday.

An MPAA spokesman did not return calls seeking comment. But in a letter to Blunt in June, the MPAA's Glickman insisted the rating for "Facing the Giants" was not based on religious content.

"Any strong or mature discussion of any subject matter results in at least a PG rating," Glickman said. "This movie had a mature discussion about pregnancy, for example. It also had other mature discussions that some parents might want to be aware of before taking their kids to see this movie."

A PG rating means parental guidance is suggested because the MPAA believes some material may not be suitable for children. A G rating means the MPAA has found the movie acceptable for all audiences.

Glickman said the movie's producers agreed with the rating and never appealed it.

The film's producers claim ratings officials changed their story after the controversy began.

"The first communication from the MPAA was that religion was a factor in the ratings," said Kris Fuhr, vice president of marketing at Provident Films, which is owned by Sony Pictures. "Since then, the MPAA has revised those factors to no longer include religion."

Fuhr says she is now satisfied with the rating and wants to move beyond the controversy to focus on marketing the film, billed as an inspirational drama about a high school football coach who relies on faith to battle fear and failure.

"He dares to challenge his players to believe God for the impossible on and off the field," the movie's Web site says.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: censorboard; christianbashing; christianity; christianmedia; christians; christophobia; comeforyourchildren; culturewar; doublestandard; facingthegiants; mediabias; moviereview; mpaa; religion; religiousintolerance

1 posted on 07/02/2006 1:23:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

"This incident raises the disquieting possibility that the MPAA considers exposure to Christian themes more dangerous for children than exposure to gratuitous sex and violence," Blunt said in a letter to MPAA Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Dan Glickman.

Do you need more evidence of this?


2 posted on 07/02/2006 1:26:16 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Graybeard58
This movie had a mature discussion about pregnancy, for example.

Let me just say that it is about time a movie had a mature discussion about pregnancy.

Without seeing the movie, I have no opinion on the rating except to say that I do agree that in general, ratings on sex and violence have been getting weaker over the years.

3 posted on 07/02/2006 1:28:08 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Graybeard58

We are living in the age of insanity.


4 posted on 07/02/2006 1:30:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes.

Furthermore, there is simply no getting along with these libs. Anyone who tries to cooperate with them, Is The Enemy To Me!


5 posted on 07/02/2006 1:31:54 PM PDT by 9999lakes
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To: Graybeard58

6 posted on 07/02/2006 1:33:15 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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To: Graybeard58; All

This is to be expected:

Liberals and Lefties everywhere in America's institutions are trying to slowly but increasingly ban Christianity from America, from our site, from our discourse !

They have already succeded in banning any sign of Christianity from ourPublic Schools ! !

If THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST were released today for the first time, it would be slapped with an NC-17 rating !


7 posted on 07/02/2006 1:36:43 PM PDT by marc costanzo (Duty, Honor, Country - - - Douglas MacArthur)
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To: nmh

Being 56 years old i never thought i would see America sink to the levels that it has!"Whorelywood"needs to be brought down to total bankruptcy.It amazes me to hear people say how bad the film industry is but always give in to it.You people need to quit giving in to weakness and going or letting your children and grandchildren drive you to take them to these sorry excuses for talent they call movies.Its something to see how great the old movies were and they did'nt have to use a single vile word or naked as* to sell it!


8 posted on 07/02/2006 1:37:26 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Graybeard58

And what do you expect from left-wing anti-American fascist Democrats? If it were the Islamic religion, or Buddhism, or some others it would be rated G. The Dem-o-rats have declared war on Christians but it would seem that some Christians do not understand as with the left-wings support of terrorist over Israel which some Jews do not understand either.


9 posted on 07/02/2006 1:38:01 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: BenLurkin

> We are living in the age of insanity.

And this is different than the last 5,000 years of recorded history, how.....?


10 posted on 07/02/2006 1:44:17 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: marc costanzo

> They have already succeded in banning any sign of Christianity from ourPublic Schools ! !

Really. Strange, I've heard nothing about that.

> If THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST were released today for the first time, it would be slapped with an NC-17 rating !

As well it might. The level of violence and gore in "Passion" puts a Tarantino movie to shame.


11 posted on 07/02/2006 1:45:37 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam

>>> They have already succeded in banning any sign of Christianity from ourPublic Schools ! !

Really. Strange, I've heard nothing about that.

> If THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST were released today for the first time, it would be slapped with an NC-17 rating !

As well it might. The level of violence and gore in "Passion" puts a Tarantino movie to shame.<<

WE GOT A LIBERAL IN HERE !


12 posted on 07/02/2006 1:55:56 PM PDT by marc costanzo (It is not where you get in Life, but how you get there, that counts)
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To: YOUGOTIT

Ah, the purging of Christianity from society....


13 posted on 07/02/2006 1:58:40 PM PDT by brain bleeds red
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To: nmh

Dan Glickman, I believe, was a cabinet member in the Clintooon administration. That should explain everything . . .


14 posted on 07/02/2006 2:01:35 PM PDT by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY

You are totally right. I am now in my seventh year of not seeing nor renting a Hollywood movie. And I don't miss them a bit.

The only thing these people understand is money. Don't give them yours.


15 posted on 07/02/2006 2:53:56 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Graybeard58

Just trying to protect the kiddies, doncha know. Ratings Boards - they rate. No sense in getting our knickers in a twist about it.


16 posted on 07/02/2006 2:55:47 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox

"Dan Glickman, I believe, was a cabinet member in the Clintooon administration. That should explain everything . . ."

Thanks!

It does ... .



17 posted on 07/02/2006 3:04:16 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Graybeard58

"The first communication from the MPAA was that religion was a factor in the ratings," said Kris Fuhr, vice president of marketing at Provident Films, which is owned by Sony Pictures. "Since then, the MPAA has revised those factors to no longer include religion."

Sounds like the MPAA has been exposed and is now in CYA mode.

Ah, that Christianity is indeed dangerous stuff<>


18 posted on 07/02/2006 4:32:10 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: marc costanzo

No, you got a conservative in here. One who is not emotionally married to a martyr complex.


19 posted on 07/02/2006 6:00:08 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: brain bleeds red
Ah, the purging of Christianity from society....

Oh, for Fark's sake.

You want purging? I got your purging right here:
http://www.jewsonfirst.org/06b/indianriver.html

20 posted on 07/02/2006 6:05:42 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam
Our society is self-destructing. Turning against its own institutions -- purposefully ripping apart the normal instrumentalities of social cohesion.

I imagine it has happened before but even over the last five thousand years -- not very many times.
21 posted on 07/02/2006 6:11:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: BenLurkin
Our society is self-destructing. Turning against its own institutions -- purposefully ripping apart the normal instrumentalities of social cohesion. I imagine it has happened before but even over the last five thousand years -- not very many times.

It happened in 334 AD when the mighty Roman Empire changed over to Christianity, things went rapidly down hill from there

22 posted on 07/02/2006 9:30:36 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Graybeard58

The Harry Potter movies were rated PG - It don't remember the Wiccans complaining


23 posted on 07/02/2006 9:36:37 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1
The demise of the Republic was the beginning of the end for Rome. The glorious spread of Christianity was the beginning of future greatness for Western civilization. May I suggest you read this book . . ..
24 posted on 07/03/2006 6:18:54 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Graybeard58

Bump please.


25 posted on 07/03/2006 6:40:32 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Graybeard58

I am totally disappointed with the PG rating if it was not earned. However, to have lawmakers getting involved is a bit worrysome. Lately they have not been getting their jobs done with the exception of a pay raise and now they are getting involved in movie ratings. I would like them to get judges on the docket, a wall up, etc. Parents can take their kids to a PG movie if they feel it is ok. Kids can even get into R rated movies with an adult.


26 posted on 07/03/2006 6:43:14 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: NYer; Salvation; Nihil Obstat; Teˇfilo; mileschristi

ping

"Warning" moviegoers about the religious content of a film sounds like something out of the Soviet Union in its most liberal days.


27 posted on 07/05/2006 6:57:03 AM PDT by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: Graybeard58
"The first communication from the MPAA was that religion was a factor in the ratings,"

That's shocking and appalling. I thought the ratings were determined by focus groups. Maybe the bureaucracy overrode the decision of the lay "jury." "Hollyweird" is right.

28 posted on 07/05/2006 7:00:43 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: kjo
The only thing these people understand is money. Don't give them yours.

True. But there's nothing wrong with rewarding the good movies. We have to be discriminating. Check reviews from reliable sources before plunking down your cash.

Our family goes to the movies about twice a year. In the last couple of years we've rewarded "Finding Nemo," "The Incredibles," "The Passion," and "The Chronicles of Narnia." It was all money well spent.

29 posted on 07/05/2006 7:03:52 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: orionblamblam
> We are living in the age of insanity.

And this is different than the last 5,000 years of recorded history, how.....?

Well, the last century was THE bloodiest century in recorded human history. There is none other comparable. All thanks to atheistic government (fascism, communism, socialism).
30 posted on 07/11/2006 2:49:26 AM PDT by dbehsman (Life member NRA and loving every minute of it!)
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To: Graybeard58

None of Congress' business how Hollywood rates movies.


31 posted on 07/11/2006 3:02:36 AM PDT by jaime1959
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To: dbehsman

> the last century was THE bloodiest century in recorded human history. There is none other comparable. All thanks to ...

Advanced weapons and transportation technologies. If the Crusades, the Islamic invasions of Europe, the various intra-European wars, etc. had had chemical weapons, tanks, bombs and AK-47's, they woulda used 'em. Hel's belles, son, biowarfare has been used for as long as people have understood that "scary plague + dead bodies = danger." That's one of the ways in which the Black Death was introduced to Europe... plague corpses tossed over city walls via catapults. Killed a third of Europe. Not even WWII or the Commie pogroms pulled that off.


33 posted on 07/11/2006 7:29:44 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam
> the last century was THE bloodiest century in recorded human history. There is none other comparable. All thanks to ...
Advanced weapons and transportation technologies.

Interesting way of looking at it, but I think your incorrect. It was murderous atheistic ideology that drove the twentieth century butcheries.

If the Crusades, the Islamic invasions of Europe, the various intra-European wars, etc. had had chemical weapons, tanks, bombs and AK-47's, they woulda used 'em.

I'm not willing to concede that point. It is certainly possible that they would have tried them or even used them, but we'll never know for certain, because those options were not available to the crusaders. If I recall correctly, the goal of the crusades was to retake the holy lands. It was not to wipe out the Muslims. As far as I know, there was no official concentration camps set up for Muslims or even Christians. I'm not saying it was a picnic by any means, but I don't think the comparisons can be fairly made.

Hel's belles, son, biowarfare has been used for as long as people have understood that "scary plague + dead bodies = danger." That's one of the ways in which the Black Death was introduced to Europe... plague corpses tossed over city walls via catapults. Killed a third of Europe.

From my understanding of the numbers, roughly 20 to 25 million people were wiped out during the Black Death. Terrible numbers to be sure but, the influenza epidemic of 1918 wiped out between an estimated 20 to 40 million worldwide.

Not even WWII or the Commie pogroms pulled that off.

Yes they did, and far worse. The last I heard (I'm not sure if this includes the numbers from the Holocaust) WWII killed over 52 million people. The Communists in the last century murdered well over 100 million people (this was not in war, this was in death camps/persecutions/forced labor, etc.). In sheer numbers alone, the twentieth century was the bloodiest century in recorded human history. Thanks to the atheistic governments of the fascists and communists, the science of murder was practiced to a very efficient level.
34 posted on 07/11/2006 12:53:03 PM PDT by dbehsman (Liberals, they're just too open minded to hear anyone else's point of view!)
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To: dbehsman

> It was murderous atheistic ideology that drove the twentieth century butcheries.


No, it was murderous theologies that drove the murders. The Nazis worshipped the Volk, the Aryan superman intelligently designed by God. The Commies worshipped the State, which was granted all the powers and myths normally associated with gods.

> If I recall correctly, the goal of the crusades was to retake the holy lands. It was not to wipe out the Muslims. As far as I know, there was no official concentration camps set up for Muslims or even Christians.

True. Concentration camps are a fairly new phenomenon (invented by the Brits for the Boer War, I *think*). prior to that, the armies simply raped all the women, killed all the men and children and burned the crops and poisone dthe wells. JUst as deadly, but more up-front about it.

> roughly 20 to 25 million people were wiped out during the Black Death. Terrible numbers to be sure but, the influenza epidemic of 1918 wiped out between an estimated 20 to 40 million worldwide.

Yep. This means that the Black Death was substantially worse than the flu... because the BD killed 1/3 to 1/2 of everybody in Europe, while the flu was, what, a percent or so?

> The last I heard (I'm not sure if this includes the numbers from the Holocaust) WWII killed over 52 million people. The Communists in the last century murdered well over 100 million people

WWII-era Europe, Russia, China, Japan and US, main combattants, had a population somewhere north of 2 billion, I believe. Thus 52M out of ~2B is "only" 3 percent or so. The 100M killed by the Commies is 100M out of probably 2B people (considering that that's the population of Russia, China, Cambodia and a few others over many decades), so that's still "only" 5%.

Bad numbers, to be sure... but wiping out 1/3 to 1/2 of everybody involved is *far* worse. Then you get things like smallpox in the New World (note: I don't buy the "it was intentional" bullcrap... the Europeans simply had diseases the Injuns didn't), and the death rates were so high that some peoples just plain disappeared.


35 posted on 07/11/2006 1:22:18 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam
> It was murderous atheistic ideology that drove the twentieth century butcheries.
No, it was murderous theologies that drove the murders. The Nazis worshipped the Volk, the Aryan superman intelligently designed by God. The Commies worshipped the State, which was granted all the powers and myths normally associated with gods.

Spoken like a true liberal. The Nazi's and the Communist's did not believe in God. They also were all Darwinists. As a matter of fact, the early Darwinists were using Darwin's theory to justify racism and eugenics. If I recall correctly, the Nazi's sent biologists down to India in the 1930's to try to trace the roots of the Germanic people.

Yep. This means that the Black Death was substantially worse than the flu... because the BD killed 1/3 to 1/2 of everybody in Europe, while the flu was, what, a percent or so?

I think I should have been a bit more specific in my earlier post. The twentieth century was the most MURDEROUS century in all of recorded human history. There, does that work better for you now? In the posting that you replied to, I noted that in SHEER NUMBERS ALONE, the twentieth century was the bloodiest.

WWII-era Europe, Russia, China, Japan and US, main combattants, had a population somewhere north of 2 billion, I believe. Thus 52M out of ~2B is "only" 3 percent or so. The 100M killed by the Commies is 100M out of probably 2B people (considering that that's the population of Russia, China, Cambodia and a few others over many decades), so that's still "only" 5%.

We are talking about millions of human beings that were intentionally murdered by atheistic, darwinistic, socialist killing machines. And you want to try to equivocate this ghastly fact by reducing it all down to mere percentages. This is what apologists for communism do.

Then you get things like smallpox in the New World (note: I don't buy the "it was intentional" bullcrap... the Europeans simply had diseases the Injuns didn't), and the death rates were so high that some peoples just plain disappeared.

First of all, you are now talking about a different century, not the same one that the black death occurred in. Secondly, I think it's a little degrading to refer to the Indians as "Injuns". Please don't bring the DU sensibilities over here.
36 posted on 07/20/2006 2:46:38 AM PDT by dbehsman (One Wellstone memorial (rave party) is enough, thank you!)
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