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Iranian Alert - July 3, 2006 - Commanders say U.S. strikes against Iran won't work
Regime Change Iran ^ | 7/3/06 | freedom44

Posted on 07/02/2006 4:42:42 PM PDT by freedom44


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CBC News

Senior United States military commanders have told the Bush administration that military strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities would probably fail to destroy them, the New Yorker magazine reported on Sunday.

The senior commanders also warned that any attack could have "serious economic, political, and military consequences for the United States," the article says, citing unidentified U.S. military officials.

"The target array in Iran is huge, but it's amorphous," the magazine quotes one unidentified general as saying.

The article is by investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, who was the first U.S. journalist to report on the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad. Hersh writes that senior military planners at the U.S. Defense Department have also questioned whether military strikes could do sufficient damage to Iranian nuclear facilities to justify the political and diplomatic cost of such an action.

"If you're a military planner, you try to weigh options," a senior military official is quoted as saying. "What is the capability of the Iranian response, the likelihood of a punitive response like cutting off oil shipments? What would that cost us?"The official also says U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and his aides "really think they can do this on the cheap, and they underestimate the capability of the adversary."

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1 posted on 07/02/2006 4:42:46 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

That's very old news and was exposed as bunk perpetuated by traitorous have-beens. The mullahs and their puppets broadcast the same myths.


2 posted on 07/02/2006 4:47:48 PM PDT by familyop ("The Jews have done more to civilize men than any other nation..." --President John Adams)
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To: familyop
The senior commanders also warned that any attack could have "serious economic, political, and military consequences for the United States," the article says, citing unidentified U.S. military officials.

Right I am suppose to believe that in their spare time US Generals are offering advice on the economy and politics? Some falsehoods are just so transparent no matter how high sounding the cited unidentified sources are.
3 posted on 07/02/2006 4:55:36 PM PDT by JLS
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To: familyop

"That's very old news and was exposed as bunk perpetuated by traitorous have-beens"

I know it's old news but who exposed it as bunk? I'd like to know.


4 posted on 07/02/2006 4:55:54 PM PDT by hubbubhubbub
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To: freedom44

Hersh again. What more needs to be said?


5 posted on 07/02/2006 4:56:55 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: freedom44

If real military leaders feel this way, why would they tell this reporter? It would seem like this would be classified.

But what the hell . Nothing is classified any more


6 posted on 07/02/2006 4:57:29 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: hubbubhubbub

I did.


7 posted on 07/02/2006 5:00:50 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: sgtbono2002

If Seymour Hersh wrote it you can figure it's half made up and the other half is his leftest opinion.


8 posted on 07/02/2006 5:01:29 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: freedom44

Seymor Hersch is trying to run the government again through lies and deception.


9 posted on 07/02/2006 5:05:14 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: sgtbono2002
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting I know that Sy Hersy is a liar, and a leftist psychopath, but I do believe that we have more than a few of these chamberlain appeasement types wearing military uniforms over at the Pentagon.
10 posted on 07/02/2006 5:05:25 PM PDT by AdvisorB (Bomb Hamistan back to the Stone Age paleos celebrated the 911 atrocities, now its their turn to die.)
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To: freedom44

According to an earlier rash of anti-American, pro-Islamist opinion, that trash came from The New Yorker in January of 2005.


11 posted on 07/02/2006 5:05:41 PM PDT by familyop
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To: freedom44

Well, since Seymour Hersh's security clearance clears him to view and discuss exactly JACK SQUAT about our military planning, this rubbish can be dismissed out of hand. We all know he's another thumb sucking liberal fabricating 'anonynous' sources in an effort to weaken the US response to islamic barbarity.


12 posted on 07/02/2006 5:07:56 PM PDT by navyguy
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To: Mr.Smorch

Vote for Seymour Hirshinsky for Commandant in Chief!


13 posted on 07/02/2006 5:08:29 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (ffffFReeeePeee!)
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To: DoctorZIn

DoctorZin, the post for this thread is being presented as coming from your site. Is it?


14 posted on 07/02/2006 5:24:56 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: hubbubhubbub; Admin Moderator
Here's a copy with a link to the original. IMO, we don't need pro-terrorist, anti-American propaganda here.





U.S. Department of Defense
Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs)
News Release

On the Web:
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2005/nr20050117-1987.html
Media contact: +1 (703) 697-5131

Public contact:
http://www.dod.mil/faq/comment.html
or +1 (703) 428-0711


 

No. 046-05

IMMEDIATE RELEASE

January 17, 2005


Statement from Pentagon Spokesman Lawrence DiRita on Latest Seymour Hersh Article

            The Iranian regime’s apparent nuclear ambitions and its demonstrated support for terrorist organizations is a global challenge that deserves much more serious treatment than Seymour Hersh provides in the New Yorker article titled “The Coming Wars.” 

 

            Mr. Hersh’s article is so riddled with errors of fundamental fact that the credibility of his entire piece is destroyed.  

 

            Mr. Hersh’s source(s) feed him with rumor, innuendo, and assertions about meetings that never happened, programs that do not exist, and statements by officials that were never made.

 

            A sampling from this article alone includes:

 

 

 

 

 

            By his own admission, Mr. Hersh evidently is working on an “alternative history” novel.  He is well along in that work, given the high quality of “alternative present” that he has developed in several recent articles.

 

            Mr. Hersh’s preference for single, anonymous, unofficial sources for his most fantastic claims makes it difficult to parse his discussion of Defense Department operations. 

 

            Finally, the views and policies Mr. Hersh ascribes to Secretary Rumsfeld, Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz, Under Secretary Feith, and other Department of Defense officials do not reflect their public or private comments or administration policy.




15 posted on 07/02/2006 5:37:54 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop

No it's not click on the picture of Hersh.


16 posted on 07/02/2006 6:20:42 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44
See BS?

Right.

We can pound the same targets indefinitely. Take satellite images... then make the rubble bounce if necessary.

If these "commanders" are that clueless, we need to replace them with real warriors.

Get rid of all the Clinton Fruit officers!

17 posted on 07/02/2006 6:31:59 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; Grampa Dave; PhiKapMom; Hinoki Cypress; ...
Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread – The Most Underreported Story Of The Year!

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail DoctorZin”

18 posted on 07/02/2006 6:50:34 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: freedom44
This is drive by media rubbish. The Iran régime must be taken out before they provoke WWIII. If we do not, Israel, being on the front lines - will.

Mullah hunter!

19 posted on 07/02/2006 6:55:05 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola
Actually, it's Iranian agent rubbish (the "we're with the Shah, and we're not very religious" kind).

And see the info from our US DoD in my comment #15, if you have a moment. It's a good copy-and-paste item for rebutting the Hersh canards, which stories are often scooped-up and used by enemies (foreign and domestic).
20 posted on 07/02/2006 7:12:59 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: freedom44
I have recently decided to stop reading and disregard any news article that is based on "unidentified" sources. Such tactics by "journalists" is just a license to make up whatever bullshit you need to prove your twisted point and hopefully sell newspapers. No longer will I waste my time on such BS.
21 posted on 07/02/2006 7:18:40 PM PDT by USMA '71
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To: familyop

Thanks for the heads up. That was very informative. That old Bolshevik Hersh is at it again. The despicable leftist types supporting Hersh's disinformation relating to the Iranian threat(s) would have also supported their 'Uncle Joe' over the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, as good little die hard Reds.


22 posted on 07/02/2006 7:25:03 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: freedom44
"No it's not click on the picture of Hersh."

I followed the link to the CBC piece before writing anything. That piece references The New Yorker and Hersh. See comment 15# for an earlier rebuttal against a similar story from Hersh for The New Yorker.

Yes, I'm a little angry. You won't do it without US military forces, and my country will be required to give much to the effort. We fight the tide of radical Islam with the lives of our young men and our hard work. We don't get much gratitude from other countries for what we give.

Work with our relatively good, contemporary Republican leaders, or the more radical Islamist regimes will remain in power, further decay in hatred and eventually get themselves destroyed.
23 posted on 07/02/2006 7:51:38 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: freedom44

and a hale bezorg Bravo Sierra to this article


24 posted on 07/02/2006 7:52:22 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: freedom44
If lib politicians were oncologists, they would wait until an agressive cancer was very firmly established, before beginning treatment.

They would figure that if you treat the cancer too early, how can you really know it would have spread and caused death?

[sarcasm] It's better to first talk about the cancer for a few months......[/sarcasm]

25 posted on 07/02/2006 10:43:19 PM PDT by syriacus (If libs were oncologists they would wait until a cancer was firmly established before treating it.)
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To: freedom44; familyop

But a strike from Israel will.


26 posted on 07/03/2006 12:58:07 AM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: garbageseeker

That would certainly bring a conclusion to the War on Terror.

BTW, have you been watching the news about the North Korean debacle? I knew that those missile systems are junk, but I didn't previously know that they're that bad!


27 posted on 07/03/2006 2:07:29 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: freedom44
To read today’s thread click here.

Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread – The Most Underreported Story Of The Year!

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail DoctorZin”

28 posted on 07/03/2006 5:06:03 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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