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Where the Boys Aren't (CHRISTINA TAKES ON THE GATES FOUNDATION...BOYS ARE IN TROUBLE)
American Enterprise Institute ^ | 7/03/06 | Christina Hoff Sommers

Posted on 07/03/2006 4:52:05 PM PDT by paulat

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To: paulat
It will be interesting to see the response of these college educated women when they try and find a mate. Educated black women complain because they cannot find a man of comparable backgrounds and education. While many of the women completing these studies are raging feminists and carpet munchers, the hetro female is going to be finding a small supply of educated men who will be able to support a family. It appears that my son will have a field day when if comes to finding an educated spouse. At the same time, one might invest in the company that makes turkey basters -- the future women of America will need these to start a family.
21 posted on 07/03/2006 5:27:26 PM PDT by double_down
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Me, I'm working on my espanol.

Si.

22 posted on 07/03/2006 5:28:58 PM PDT by paulat
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The fact is that men, especially white men, are mercillessly abused by the left wing teachers and administrations of todays colleges Men are not welcomed on campus as they once were.>>>

I cant prove it but I think my arguments during my last english class took me from an A to a B, I averaged an A on all essays but only received a B in the class where 70%of the grade was based on the essay portion. Guess what our prime focus was? Illegal immigration!My teacher was a pro-illegal who proudly marched in the demonstrations, I even called her on some of her leftist stances because it made some of the more conservative students uneasy, she actually was very graceful and accomidated our views, but I just wonder?


23 posted on 07/03/2006 5:29:20 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: paulat

Ms. Mead strikes me as the sort who ought to be paying a great deal of interest in experiments at Children's Hospital in Boston where a new penis was grown in the laboratory for a rabbit. See: http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s851192.htm


24 posted on 07/03/2006 5:30:07 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: double_down

I would recommend the ladies do what I did...find a man in the trades...


25 posted on 07/03/2006 5:31:39 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Fenris6

Amazingly even in the better school districts there's been a disturbing trend to eliminate algebra in the 7th and 8th grade and restrict it to the 9th and 10th grades.


26 posted on 07/03/2006 5:32:13 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Did they call it "Bobbit?"


27 posted on 07/03/2006 5:32:42 PM PDT by paulat
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To: paulat
They were strapping it on, not snipping it off ~ so I don't know what they called it.

Maybe they ought to get Bill Clinon in on this one.

28 posted on 07/03/2006 5:34:35 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: aft_lizard

Don't wonder too hard, you got SCREWED!


29 posted on 07/03/2006 5:40:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: paulat
I would also venture to say that women get degrees in the "softer" disciplines...as opposed to math, engineering, etc.

As a general rule, women tend to be more interested in liberal arts, whereas men are more interested in technical areas like math and science. I believe it has a lot to do with the nature of men and women. I remember hearing not long ago that on average, women talk something like 2-3 times as much as men do so it would make sense for many women to pursue areas that allow more social interaction and men to pursue areas with less interaction.

But as a woman with a Mechanical Engineering degree, I wouldn't necessarily say that liberal arts is any "softer" than engineering. It all depends on the person. I, for instance, can find the heat transfer caused by a computer heat sink easier than I can write a simple grammatically correct sentence. Unfortunately my job requires me to email/fax customers just about everyday, and because of my grammar, I'm pretty sure most believe that either English is not my first language, or that I am borderline retarded.

Btw, while we're on the subject, I attended a university that intentionally had a 1:1 male to female ratio. In making the ratio equal, the school's standards for men (based on SAT scores and average GPAs) were actually a bit more lax than for women because there were less male applicants to choose from. I don't believe judging one gender more lenient than the other is really a good way to solve this problem.

30 posted on 07/03/2006 6:03:16 PM PDT by Mazi83
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>I am amazed at the distance between me and my fellow students<

You are living, breathing proof, aft. May you breeze through your classes and finish in the top 5, if not the very top, of your class. God bless!


31 posted on 07/03/2006 6:26:43 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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"I am not an average student in intellect or knowledge for sure(not bragging)"

Don't be ashamed, 49.99% of the population is below average. I'm sure it will work out just fine for you....


32 posted on 07/03/2006 6:30:51 PM PDT by dakine
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What a great reply! You might want to contact Christina with your real-life experience!

I don't know if you saw my #13...but I'm lookin' for a technical degree and would appreciate any input!

33 posted on 07/03/2006 6:35:17 PM PDT by paulat
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One looks in vain in Ms. Mead's report for any indication that anyone is undermining girls. She seems to think that concern for boys means shortchanging girls.

It is always good to hear from Christina Hoff Sommers.

Ms. Mead is probably a feminist, incapable of true empathy for males. She probably regards boys as dangerous proto-oppressors. To feminists, boys are inherently defective, so their failure is to be expected and even applauded.

Too many people prefer not to notice that males still outscore females slightly on verbal SATs and substantially on math SATs. In other words, current male academic problems result from the incompetence or unwillingness by teachers and parents to motivate and educate boys. The problem here is not with defective boys, but with defective teaching and parenting, both fostered by a defective feminist society.

34 posted on 07/03/2006 6:59:01 PM PDT by TChad
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"The idea that women might actually surpass men in some areas seems hard for many people to swallow."

No more hard to swallow than the idea that men might actually surpass women in some areas...

35 posted on 07/03/2006 6:59:01 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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People in Washing are dealing with such numbers that their statistics don't really mean anything. But, I think they should be looking at some other things. If boys are not going to college that peobably means that they are finding other options. College has gotten so expensive that many graduate with huge college loans, and many may not want to do that. These would not be the best and brightest. I think Ivy League collees get 2,000 qualified applicants for every spot. Some colleges may not be that good of a deal.

children of ollege grads not reading??? That's neglignece, if true.

36 posted on 07/03/2006 7:09:47 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt

VERY good points!!


37 posted on 07/03/2006 7:25:39 PM PDT by paulat
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To: ClaireSolt

Just a thought...I am here in WA state with you...if you have a guy who is into home building/remodeling...he's set for life up here...there is construction going on all over the place!!


38 posted on 07/03/2006 7:27:49 PM PDT by paulat
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To: TChad

You wrote: " ... Too many people prefer not to notice that males still outscore females slightly on verbal SATs ..."

I'd have to see that to believe it. Where would I find these numbers?


39 posted on 07/03/2006 7:39:26 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: stephenjohnbanker

So, as always, they go out into the workplace and take it out on women, thus, the ongoing wage gap. All these men do poorly on tests and yet they are still the majority of bosses and much more highly paid. Why is that?

Business doesn't value brains?


40 posted on 07/03/2006 7:43:06 PM PDT by Rte66
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