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Bay State wants everyone to count ( Mass losing people, money, congressional seats, power ... )
Boston Globe ^ | July 4, 2006 | Andrea Estes

Posted on 07/04/2006 6:44:16 PM PDT by george76

Boston, as well as the state, has been losing population in the past few years.

If those numbers are confirmed by the 2010 federal census, Massachusetts could lose up to two congressional seats, as well as federal money for highway, education, and development programs that are tied to population.

Responding to concerns raised by the state's congressional delegation, local mayors, and Secretary of State William F. Galvin, lawmakers included $100,000 in the $25.7 billion state budget last week to pay a University of Massachusetts think tank to start researching the numbers to make sure that as many residents as possible are counted.

"Everyone is wringing their hands about how we're losing population," said Galvin, whose office will work with researchers at the Donahue Institute at UMass to try to track hard-to-locate populations.

``We want to do something about it, make sure every person who should be counted is counted. We're going to look in every nook and cranny in Massachusetts to count everybody who is here."

Mayor Thomas M. Menino said yesterday that the funding will allow the state to come up with its own population numbers and not have to rely on federal figures.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: District of Columbia; US: Massachusetts; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2010; bigspenders; bluestates; census; congress; congressionalseats; corruption; depopulation; electioncongress; elections; electionushouse; exodus; federal; federalcensus; galvin; hightaxes; homosexualagenda; jfk; kennedy; kerry; samesexmarriage; socialism; socialists; taxes; tedkennedy
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1 posted on 07/04/2006 6:44:19 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Sounds familiar. So, they're going to start cheating on the census now, eh? Hope others that are in a better position than I get the same vibe from this.


2 posted on 07/04/2006 6:47:49 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: george76
``We want to do something about it, make sure every person who should be counted is counted. We're going to look in every nook and cranny in Massachusetts to count everybody who is here."

A 50% tax cut would be a whole lot more effective. ;)

3 posted on 07/04/2006 6:49:24 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Suprise suprise! Mass-hole Nanny staters driving people away.


4 posted on 07/04/2006 6:50:30 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (Brother, can you Paradigm?)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I guess we could move a lot of illegal aliens to Mass!

Staying in Mass may be some of the jobs that Americans won't do.


5 posted on 07/04/2006 6:51:14 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (Brother, can you Paradigm?)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

The state can start counting the illegals, the dead, the tourists, the university students from other states...


6 posted on 07/04/2006 6:51:57 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Freudenschade, baby!

I know it is Schadenfreude but this is a DUFU thing ;)

7 posted on 07/04/2006 6:52:17 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: george76
"Everyone is wringing their hands about how we're losing population," said Galvin, whose office will work with researchers at the Donahue Institute at UMass to try to track hard-to-locate populations.

I'm here to tell ya,boys and girls,that the movers and shakers of this state (both in and out of politics) are *genuinely* clueless as to why this state is losing population.

But after a thorough scouring of graveyards and foreign countries far and wide,they will find a million or more additional residents.

Watch for MA to gain three Congressional seats after the 2010 Census!

8 posted on 07/04/2006 6:52:35 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: george76

Solution is very easy: get the counters dead drunk. Then everything [whatever it is] will be counted twice. Now they need to stop the payment on that 100K check to University of Massachusetts think tank, and send me my fee - something modest but decent... say, a price of a VERY good restaurant dinner.


9 posted on 07/04/2006 6:52:37 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Same problem next door.


10 posted on 07/04/2006 6:52:48 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
`We want to do something about it, make sure every person who should be counted is counted. We're going to look in every nook and cranny in Massachusetts to count everybody who is here."

"Bring out yer dead!!"

11 posted on 07/04/2006 6:54:14 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: george76

The less congressoinal lawmakers that come from Mass along with New York, the better for the rest of the country. Now only if California would lose some congressional seats, especially from the San Fran area.


12 posted on 07/04/2006 6:54:29 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

They may count the same people twice, too.


13 posted on 07/04/2006 6:54:35 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: The South Texan

Plus Mass and NY may lose votes for President.


14 posted on 07/04/2006 6:56:34 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

People are leaving Massachusetts? I wonder why???????


15 posted on 07/04/2006 6:57:06 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: george76

Interesting info and surprising that Suffolk County is losing population. All the potato(e) farms must be developed. Still surprising. Apparently the more self-sufficient folks are voting with their feet.


16 posted on 07/04/2006 6:57:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: george76

Maybe they could count 'minorities' twice to make up for past malfeasance. Like a reparation kind of thing. Each gay person counts as two people because, not only are gay people just better than everyone else, but they might have been discriminated against at one time or another.

Sheesh...I better shut up. I don't want to give them too many ideas...lol


17 posted on 07/04/2006 6:57:45 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Gay State Conservative

Connecticut is losing also. The Carolinas are the place of choice.


18 posted on 07/04/2006 6:57:47 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (look at a map)
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To: Rummyfan

Some try to blame the weather.

But New Hampshire is gaining some of these big tax and spenders liberals...


19 posted on 07/04/2006 6:59:44 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
"We're going to look in every nook and cranny in Massachusetts to count everybody who is here."

So I guess that means they've decided not to count John & Teresa.
20 posted on 07/04/2006 7:00:56 PM PDT by vamoose
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"A 50% tax cut would be a whole lot more effective. ;)"
Income and state tax load in MA is not too onerous - about 5% each; also many items are excluded from sales taxation [food, drugs, clothing]. It is the general cost of living there, starting with housing.
21 posted on 07/04/2006 7:05:20 PM PDT by GSlob
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22 posted on 07/04/2006 7:05:41 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: golfisnr1
Connecticut is losing also. The Carolinas are the place of choice.

I'm not surprised.I'll be leaving in the not-too-distant future for VA or NC.I won't go any farther south because I need four seasons.

23 posted on 07/04/2006 7:06:42 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: george76

Massachusetts is almost a textbook virus infected cell.

A virus infects the host cell. It hijacks the cell and proceeds to alter the cell and turn it into a virus factory. In the process it kills the cell and all the virii break free and flood to the neighboring cells where they infect them and repeat the process all over again.

Just replace "virus" with "leftist thought".


24 posted on 07/04/2006 7:13:09 PM PDT by Bogey78O (<thinking of new tagline>)
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To: Gay State Conservative; cardinal4

I left MA in Sep 2001 after I lost my wife. I never really liked living in MA because I couldn't stand being around Catholics who continued to send those two abortion-mongers, Kennedy and Kerry, back to the Senate. And my congresscritter, Bill Delahunt, was the guy who was treating with Chavez for cheap oil for the poor in Southie after I left. There are some good people in MA, but they are outnumbered by the bed-wetting limp wrists.


25 posted on 07/04/2006 7:15:26 PM PDT by Ax ("Crusader?" Hey, I kind of like that.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
 

26 posted on 07/04/2006 7:15:27 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

1. Housing.
2. Taxes.
3. Schools (esp. Suffolk county).
3a. Enforced policy of multiculturalism.
4. Commute.

There are too damn many people here anyway. I will still be around to hold the fort, plow over the last half of the 20th century, and plant orchards.


27 posted on 07/04/2006 7:16:12 PM PDT by cloud8
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28 posted on 07/04/2006 7:20:02 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
I remember in the 1990 census Ted Kennedy wanted to count only US citizens in the census knowing that counting everyone would hurt Mass.
29 posted on 07/04/2006 7:20:12 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: george76
If those numbers are confirmed by the 2010 federal census, Massachusetts could lose up to two congressional seats

Please, please.

30 posted on 07/04/2006 7:20:48 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Ax
And my congresscritter, Bill Delahunt, was the guy who was treating with Chavez for cheap oil for the poor in Southie after I left. There are some good people in MA, but they are outnumbered by the bed-wetting limp wrists.

The truly funny (and disgusting) thing about the political landscape of this state is that Barney Frank may well be the most reasonable and respectable member of our Congressional delegation.

31 posted on 07/04/2006 7:21:12 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Ax; Grampa Dave
Needs repeating

"...outnumbered by the bed-wetting limp wrists."

32 posted on 07/04/2006 7:22:16 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Gay State Conservative; cardinal4

Every time I see Bawney on TV, I can't help but like the guy. What really turns me off is his Hillary-rumpswab of a sister, Anne Lewis. She makes me bahf. My nephew met Bawney at a Synagogue in DC and said that he's really a smart, funny guy.


33 posted on 07/04/2006 7:24:01 PM PDT by Ax ("Crusader?" Hey, I kind of like that.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I disagree that they are clueless, I think they know full well why everyone is leaving. They have also become fluent in liberal speak, so they can feign ignorance on any number of subjects very well. But come on, NO ONE is that stupid!

They can talk the talk very convincingly, but I don't buy it. Obviously they can't come out and SAY why, but they know. MA has become a very hostile environment for anyone right of the far left. People are just plain sick and tired of the elephant in the room, the same elephant these liberals refuse to admit is there.


34 posted on 07/04/2006 7:26:17 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: george76

That's an interesting graphic.


35 posted on 07/04/2006 7:26:24 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: george76
Here's hopin' the entire Northeast continues to lose influence and population. Disperse the idiot liberals up there amongst the general rural population so their power is diluted.
36 posted on 07/04/2006 7:28:03 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: Bogey78O

That sounds just like the relationship between California and Oregon.


37 posted on 07/04/2006 7:28:55 PM PDT by thecabal ("Now die monkeys and stop saying Muslims are terrorists,we are peaceful people!")
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To: Gay State Conservative

I live in Maryland , and hope to be moving in the not too distant future north to New England. New Hampshire would be my first choice, but Massachussetts only comes in second because of NH's tax benefits. Although we have four abbreviated seasons, from the mid-atlantic to the carolinas...summers can be brutal. Often Spring and Fall are only fleeting, and winter still gets cold. This year we had a splendid spring...but it's certainly not usual.


38 posted on 07/04/2006 7:29:11 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Thanks and I like your tag.


39 posted on 07/04/2006 7:29:20 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Bogey78O

New tag line ?

"Massachusetts is almost a textbook virus infected cell."


40 posted on 07/04/2006 7:30:55 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: gidget7
I disagree that they are clueless...

All I can think of to say to you is..you obviously don't get to Boston,Cambridge,Brookline or Newton very much,do you?

41 posted on 07/04/2006 7:33:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: george76
"could lose up to two congressional seats, as well as federal money for highway, education, and development programs that are tied to population"

It is not necessarily the population that determines government largess. Ask Senator Bird how many people are in West Virginia. Washington, D.C. has no voting representation in congress but does pretty well when it comes to budgets. How much did Massachusetts contribute to the Big Dig and how much did the rest of the country hand over? California just hocks itself to the gills

Where there is senority there is bucks.

yitbos

42 posted on 07/04/2006 7:35:30 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: The South Texan

New York losing Congressional seats actually isn't as good a thing as it would seem on the surface. Democrats have a great shot at taking both state Houses and Spitzer will likely be governor during the next redistricting. The seats that will be lost will almost certainly be Republican.


43 posted on 07/04/2006 7:36:52 PM PDT by youthgonewild
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To: george76

A lot of Mass., Conn.,and N.Y., plates here this lovely weekend. Think they might stay? No sales tax and income tax!! I bet ya they will.


44 posted on 07/04/2006 7:45:29 PM PDT by lucky american (We cannot direct the wind but we can adjust the sails)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Hahaha no more than I can possibly help no. But I don't believe it still. Especially those in office. I have watched the debates on the floor of the legislature. Where the tears start flowing from grown men, and they start reciting from the activist playbook, and none of what they say is in fact true.

I firmly believe they know the truth.
45 posted on 07/04/2006 7:46:53 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: george76

LOL!

"We're going to look in every nook and cranny in Massachusetts to count everybody who is here."

Uh yah, and every GRAVE MARKER!


46 posted on 07/04/2006 7:47:52 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Heck I live near Northampton, and I can barely stomach that! I avoid it like the plague.


47 posted on 07/04/2006 7:47:58 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: george76
Massachusetts could lose up to two congressional seats

Now that would be progress!

48 posted on 07/04/2006 7:48:44 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: gidget7

What ever happened to the idea of cheap/free university of Mass tuition for illegal immigrants ?

Did it pass ?


49 posted on 07/04/2006 7:51:04 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Richard-SIA

If Mass offers extra high welfare, food stamps, free health care, free housing ...they might attract many lazy bumbs to move there for the census period.


50 posted on 07/04/2006 7:53:58 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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