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4th of July at the LA Times: Founding Fathers "A Bunch of Racist, Slave-Owning White Men"
NewsBusters.org ^ | 4 July 2006 | Dave Pierre

Posted on 07/04/2006 7:03:39 PM PDT by infoguy

If you thought the folks at the Los Angeles Times would use the Fourth of July to take a day off from spewing their usual bias and vitriol, think again. Readers of today's op-ed page (Tuesday, July 4, 2006) in the Times are greeted to this piece of bitterness by Mark Kurlansky, "Fathers don't always know best" (The title comes from the print edition; online, the title is, "WWFFD? Who cares?" We have already written about the discrepancy between the print and online titles at the Times here.).

Apparently, Kurlansky is not too impressed by the very people who founded our nation. He begins his column by listing reasons why the United States is such a horrible "backward democracy." And the blame, implies Kurlansky, lies at the feet of the Founding Fathers (emphasis mine):

We ought to do something. Instead, we keep worrying about the vision of a bunch of sexist, slave-owning 18th century white men in wigs and breeches. Even in the 18th century, the founding fathers were not the most enlightened thinkers available. They were the ones whose ideas prevailed. Those who favored independence but were not in favor of war are not called founding fathers. John Dickinson of Pennsylvania ...

Gee, and a Happy Fourth of July to you, too, Mark!

Someone might want to remind Mark that the very freedom of the press that he enjoys is owed not only to the men and women who have fought for its defense over the centuries, but also to the very men who enshrined it in our Constitution. Hey, Mark. Every country doesn't have that freedom.

(By the way, Kurlansky's piece also contains a whopper of bad writing. He begins his article by ranting, "I am sick and tired of the founding fathers and all their intents." Yet in his closing paragraph, he appeals, "So let us stop worshiping the founding fathers and allow our minds to progress and try to build a nation of great new ideas. That is, after all, the intent of the founding fathers." Apparently, Kurlansky is sick and tired of the intents of the Founding Fathers, but we should follow his premise because that was ... the ... intent ... of ... the Fathers. Good grief. Does anyone ever edit these articles besides their titles?)

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Kurlansky is not the only killjoy today. Next to Kurlansky's sad opinion piece is the latest drivel from Joel "I Don't Support Our troops" Stein. Apparently, Joel thought the Fourth of July would be a terrific day to belittle the American flag and the people who display it proudly. His article is, "Eek! A flag on my lawn!" As a promotion, a local realtor planted a small flag outside of Stein's house and at those of his neighbors. Is Stein grateful for the flag? Not in the least. As the title of his article suggests, Stein acts as if the flag were the equivalent of a poisonous vial of anthrax left in his driveway. Stein harps over his "panic" over the flag.

But my bigger panic was over what to do with it. I'm not a flag-waving kind of guy, but I knew damn well that I couldn't just throw it in the trash. Throwing away a flag is very, very bad. It's just as bad as burning it, which, I believe, brings 30 years of bad luck to your country, leading it to repeat the same mistakes. Like sending troops abroad to fight in open-ended civil wars.

So I was going to have to keep this flag for the rest of my life.

Much like you, at about this point, my wife, Cassandra, got sick of this conversation. So she plucked the flag out of our planter and threw it away, not even in the recycle bin. This is a woman who hates both political parties.

Someone might want to let Joel and Cassandra Stein that the American flag has nothing to do with political parties. "Hating both political parties" should have no bearing on your love for the United States, Cass.

But Stein gives away his usual condescension and arrogance in this passage (emphasis mine):

[The realtor] told me that in the town she grew up in near St. Louis, most people kept a flag up all year. Even though I've seen tons of neighborhoods that do this, I've never actually lived in one. I've also never lived in a neighborhood that had those flags reminding you of the holidays and seasons. In fact, I've always looked down on those places. If you need semaphore to inform each other that it's going to get hotter in the upcoming months, nobody is putting a magnet school in your community.

So the reason I didn't want to put a flag outside wasn't because I disapprove of our international policies. It was because I didn't want to associate myself with the other people who put them up, and with their unquestioning, tribal, us-versus-them, arrogant mentality. Though I love being American, I don't want to proclaim it as the sole basis of my identity.

Yikes. Did Stein actually say "arrogant"? Yes, he did.

Happy Fourth of July.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; constitution; enemedia; enemywithin; flagphobia; foundingfathers; joelstein; kurlansky; liberalmedia; losangelestimes; markkurlansky
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To: infoguy

61 posted on 07/04/2006 10:44:05 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Rummyfan
I had the same thought. Steinbeck may have been an acclaimed writer, but this is a rather moronic statement. It raises a question as to whether he was familiar with the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Federalist Papers.
62 posted on 07/04/2006 10:58:32 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: infoguy

New Yorker Mark Kurlansky food writer.

Mark Kurlansky's book, Cod: A Biography of the Fish That Changed the World

''I love watching people eat. I get frustrated when I read history and they don't tell you what they were eating. I mean what were they serving at Versailles as they were hammering out that treaty?"


63 posted on 07/04/2006 11:52:48 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: inkling

While it's very true that the FF were only creating rights for white, property owning men (and this is said by a USA loving, flag waving veteran's daughter), they still created the basis for the best country on earth. I don't see people beating down doors to immigrate to other countries like they do this one. I have instilled love of the flag, standing during the National Anthem, respect for vets and the priviledge of voting to my two sons. They know what a wonderful thing it is to be live in this country.

And we had 10 flags in our yard, porch and gardens yesterday!


64 posted on 07/05/2006 12:53:17 AM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Experience is a good teacher but not a kind one.)
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To: sageb1

Our flag flies year round.

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Same here.


65 posted on 07/05/2006 8:40:13 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: infoguy
So the reason I didn't want to put a flag outside wasn't because I disapprove of our international policies. It was because I didn't want to associate myself with the other people who put them up, and with their unquestioning, tribal, us-versus-them, arrogant mentality.

My neighbors and I are both greatful that he does not want to associate with us. We all hate having to be being rude, even with total jerks like this clown.

These people are really full of themselves.

66 posted on 07/05/2006 8:47:29 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
The press and Democrats hate the military. They always have. They didn't suddenly morph from 60's commies to patriots just because of 9/11.

Maybe the "Independent" voters will finally notice that the only soldiers the press cares about are the dead ones, the ones who lost limbs and the ones they can charge with rape, murder and torture.

They're all hunting for their May Lai. And if they can't find one...they'll create one.

67 posted on 07/05/2006 8:54:00 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: tflabo

Oh yeh...great liberal progressive ideas as
Abortion, Gay Marriages, Flag burnings, Censuring religious expression, Legalize marijuana, anti-military, tax and spend....etc...etc...

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Well, of course, you Neanderthal, while we're running around dragging our knuckles, the enlightened ones are building us a Brave New World. Show a little gratitude. Always remember that their superiority allows them to grasp concepts that are beyond our meager understanding.


68 posted on 07/05/2006 9:04:57 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: LisaMalia

Note to Mark Kurlansky,....

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Excellent points and well stated.


69 posted on 07/05/2006 9:15:03 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: Lorianne

My daughter's history teacher said much the same thing. Made the class write an essay on how America was 'founded on inequality'.

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OMW! What did you do?


70 posted on 07/05/2006 9:17:01 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: Deb

They're all hunting for their May Lai. And if they can't find one...they'll create one.

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Well said!

Re your tagline: ??


71 posted on 07/05/2006 9:26:55 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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