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Actually, amnesty is allowing people whose first act in America was an illegal act to, in any way, get ahead of anyone who has played by the rules.
It's funny how those who are for some form of amnesty - even "amnesty lite - first say that they are not for amnesty. Then they attempt to define amnesty.
Gingrich likes the Pence immigration plan
6 Jun 06
Newt Gingrich gives kudos to the Mike Pence immigration reform plan in his latest Human Events column: One positive addition to the border-security and immigration debate is Rep. Mike Pence's (R-Ind.) bill, the Border Integrity and Immigration Reform Act. This bill is as close to the right solution as I have seen. It sets up a four-step process starting with what is needed and universally agreed upon -- border security. Second, it does not provide amnesty for people in the United States illegally. It requires them to go home. Next, it sets up a work-visa program using electronic bio-metric security based on conservative market principles. After an American employer can, in good faith, show that no American worker will fill a job offer, a work-visa holder may be hired. The key feature is that, in order for people who are here illegally to get a work visa, they must go home, because work visas will only be issued outside of the United States. Fourth, once the program is set up, companies that continue to ignore the law will be sanctioned severely. I hope the House will take a serious look at Rep. Pence's thoughtful and pragmatic approach to solving this issue.
"After we have demonstrated seriousness by securing the border, we need to establish the work-visa program in Rep. Mike Pence's (R-Ind.) bill (Border Integrity and Immigration Reform Act) that I wrote about last week. (You can learn more about the Pence plan here.) Pence's bill only allows work visas to be issued outside of the United States. So the simple answer to your question is that if you want to work in the U.S. legally, the rules will require you to go home to apply for the work visa.
"But this gets to why being serious about enforcing the law on employers is so important. If we do not enforce the law, then we can expect that employers will continue to break it. However, if we make it prohibitively difficult and costly for employers to hire a non-citizen illegally, then we can expect employers to comply with the law. When this happens, everyone who is working here illegally will be unable to find work and have no choice but to return home to get a work visa if they wish to work in the United States. We can establish a legal and compassionate way for individuals, especially those with families, to return home to apply.
"This is why the dichotomy nurtured by the pro-amnesty camp between 'mass deportation' and 'amnesty' is a false choice. The real choice is between amnesty and enforcing the law. Amnesty is a disaster, because it cheapens the value of American law. It sends the message that American law can be willfully violated without consequence.
"A work-visa program that is accompanied by total border control, uniform enforcement of existing laws (including draconian penalties on employers who continue to violate employment laws after a work-visa program is established), and the rejection of amnesty will have powerful incentives for individuals working here illegally to comply with the law and return home and apply. This will be especially true once a growing number of work-visa holders follow this path and employers find a growing pool of legal workers whom they can tap.
"The key in all of this is to create a set of incentives for the individual working here illegally to choose to comply with the law. If an individual working here illegally knows that improved border control will make it nearly impossible to cross the border again, that stepped-up law enforcement on the border and prompt removal will dramatically increase the chances of his being picked up and returned to his home country (with the penalty of being barred for a period of time of returning legally), that there is a legal way to work here, and that the work visa program that is established by the Pence bill is efficiently run so that there is a reasonably quick transition period in which to return home to apply and receive a work visa, then we can reasonably expect a swift migration to a dramatically improved and legal immigration system that will save lives and protect the rule of law."
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We are already implementing the economic and bureaucratic integration of Canada, the USA, and Mexico right here: http://www.spp.gov/
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Whatever Happened to Mike Pence?
by Phyllis Schlafly
June 28, 2006
Despite the consistent failure of all guest worker plans (e.g., France), Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) is peddling a new plan to import foreign workers who really are guests and really do go home. Pence has turned his back on the 88 percent of House Republicans who voted that we must achieve border security first, because we'll be cheated on border security if Congress passes a "comprehensive" bill.
The Pence plan tries to avoid the amnesty label by requiring illegal aliens now in the U.S. to make what he calls "a quick trip across the border" to Mexico or Canada to pick up a new W visa. A foreigner could get a W visa only if a U.S. employer certifies that a job awaits him.
Pence's plan calls for setting up privately financed offices outside the U.S., with the cutesy title Ellis Island Centers, to hand out the new W visas, which he claims would be more efficient than government bureaucracy. Business would, indeed, be more efficient than government in importing more foreign workers.
Having private employment agencies distribute the W visas would put the fox in charge of the chicken coop. Private industry has a built-in incentive to import as much cheap labor as possible.
Pence says that the Ellis Island Centers will be able to match workers with jobs, perform health screening, fingerprinting, and convey information to the FBI and Homeland Security for a background check in "a matter of one week, or less." We'll have to see that to believe it.
What about the millions of illegal aliens in the U.S. today who do not have an employer willing to go on record as guaranteeing a job for a foreigner? These would include the relatives of jobholders, the day laborers, and the millions of illegal aliens working in the U.S. underground cash economy (an estimated 40 percent of the total).
Pence's bill is silent on this and his staff predicts that the free market will provide the answers. Pence told Time Magazine his bill "will require the 12 million illegal aliens to leave."
What about the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who are not Mexicans? Illegal aliens will not have to return to their home country, but only appear at an Ellis Island Center anywhere outside the U.S. to pick up their papers. Will Mexico and Canada put out the welcome mat for a mass exodus of illegal aliens from the U.S.?
The Pence plan provides that the guest workers, after living here legally for six years under the protection of a W visa, can choose whether to apply for citizenship or to return home. If guest workers don't apply for citizenship, will Pence hire buses to deport them after they have raised a family and established roots?
Six years is ample time to have a U.S.-born anchor baby, or two or three, which starts family chain migration. Any attempt to deal with the racket of birthright citizenship would linger at least six years in the courts.
The Pence promise that employers would have to offer jobs to Americans first is a sick joke. American engineers and computer techies who lost their jobs to foreigners under the H-1B visa guest-worker racket know that a look-for-Americans-first rule is never enforced and easily evaded.
Pence revealed an amazing open-ended part of his plan in his Wall Street Journal article: "My immigration reform plan does not favor illegal immigrants. Anyone may apply for a guest-worker visa at the new Ellis Island Centers; indeed, the plan may actually work to the advantage of applicants who have never violated our immigration laws, since guest-worker visas will be issued only outside the U.S."
Anyone may apply? From anywhere in the world? And without any limits? Pence wrote, "There will initially be no cap on the number of visas that can be issued."
The Pew Hispanic Center surveyed 120 locations in Mexico and concluded that 49 million Mexicans want to live in the United States if they get the opportunity.
If Pence's "guest worker" plan actually worked, and the guests voluntarily go home after six years, it would mean instituting a system that is immoral and un-American. Inviting foreigners to come to America to do jobs that Americans think they are too good to do creates a subordinate underclass of unassimilated foreign workers, like the serf or peasant classes that exist in corrupt foreign countries such as Mexico.
That's not the kind of economy that made America a great nation. As Theodore Roosevelt warned: "Never under any condition should this nation look at an immigrant as primarily a labor unit."
Pence and others who promote "guest worker" plans have a favorite mantra: "Let the free market solve our economic problems." Americans should realize that a global, or even a Western Hemisphere free market, means forcing American workers to compete with people who work for 50 cents an hour.
Letting the free market decide our future also requires loss of sovereignty to some kind of multinational government, as the European Union found out. Is the real push behind guest-worker proposals the Bush goal to expand NAFTA into the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, which he signed at Waco last year and reaffirmed at Cancun this year?
Give away a little more with each compromise, until one side of the discussion has everything, and nothing remains to the other side.
This is a non-starter with me if the felony provisions for illegal entry are not retained.
Give the illegals a short window of opportunity to exit the U.S. without penalty. The bill sort of does that, but without the felony provision it lacks real teeth.
After that date has passed any illegals found here get a felony conviction, anything of value they have is forfeited to the state and Fed. Gov., then they are deported, with a one year prison sentence to be served if they return to the U.S.
Any "Guest Worker" that remains in the U.S. for SIX YEARS will be here forever, guaranteed!
If they were serious about having "guest workers" instead of uncontrolled migration the work period would be limited to no more than six months at a time, with a required minimum three month stay in their country of origin between U.S. working periods.
This would also help to motivate employers to find American workers, who can stay on the job as long as they are needed.
Employer's must also be required to post as a bond for each worker, if the worker decides to go underground the bond is forfeit, ICE gets the funds to defray the expense of tracking down the scoff-law "guest worker" and deporting them.
The bond would help to ensure that the back-round checks performed are legitimate, employers would not want to lose several bonds due to poor or phony back-round checks not being reliable.
"Guest workers" working time in the U.S. would be limited to three years employment in aggregate, with their total U.S. employment window limited to no more than a five year stint as a "guest worker".
Since the wages they make in the U.S. are so much more than they can make in their home country, they should have to make room for others to share the opportunity.
This is similar to the original motivation for Social Security, to get the older Americans to leave the work force and make room for the youngsters.
How SS devolved is another subject.
Speaking of SS, it must be stated as a part of the program that "guest workers" and illegals will NOT be enrolled in, or eligible for, ANY SS benefits.
Any bonus, profit sharing, etc. that they may qualify for may ONLY be paid in their country of origin.
It might be a good idea to have some percent of wages withheld, to be paid ONLY in their country of origin, as an incentive to fully comply with the program and not "drop out" at the end of their employment window.
The corporation that processed them as "guest workers" can be responsible for making that payment.
It also needs to be mandated that any children of both illegals and "guest workers" are NOT citizens.
"Guest workers" must be single, or leave their families and spouses (significant other's?) at home.
They are to be TEMPORARY workers, so there is no reason for them to be allowed to establish a too comfortable long term existence here.
NO "Path to U.S. citizenship" for illegals, former illegals, or "guest workers", AT ALL!
There are hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants from all over the world already patiently waiting in line, illegals must NOT be rewarded in any way for jumping past them!
Anyone who came to the U.S. illegally should automatically have forfeited any chance of ever gaining U.S. citizenship.
The overall language needs serious clean up as well, as written it proposes and accepts the myth that all "guest workers" and illegals come from Mexico.
That is far from the truth, we have illegals here from all over the world.
This proposal does not cover illegals from, say, China equally.
It is not so practical for a Chinese, Hungarian, African, Australian, Englishman, etc. illegal to return home to apply for a "guest worker" card.
I personally have no problem with the illegals of distant origin being excluded from the program, if genuine enforcement is practiced against them. (Good bye thousands of Russians!)
But I expect the courts will say that the proposed law must treat all illegals equally, if not it may be shredded by the courts.
"Mexican" is not a "Race", but assuming the "guest workers" are all Mexicans would be hard to defend as anything but a racist preference.
So maybe make it open to anyone from the American continent, Mex., Canadian, Brazilian, Argentine, etc.
But if all the above, and more I have missed, is not part of the program, it will be nothing more than a green light for uncontrolled migration, and the destruction of America as a first class country.
Ideally, ALL immigration would be suspended for the next five years while this program is being established and perfected, but no doubt that is too much to hope for.
Once this program is perfected there would be little or no need for future immigration!
So by your standards, Mike Pence thinks that President Bush is "full of crap", right?